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**Jerry Hooper** · 08-20-2003, 06:07 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Barbs,

How many years study did your partner do to get his B. T. E. C. national
certificate in civil engineering? It might be that this certificate is
considered the same level as an AQF Diploma.

Regards

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My partner has a B.T.E.C, national cert in civil engineering. I know that vetassess do not take work experience into account but would he still get possitive assesment as civil engineering technician ( he has been working in this capacity and above for over 10 years). He also has done course in CAD 3D design, but has no offical qualifaction for this. It says that he needsaan AQF Diploma, does that mean he is not eligible and will have to go down CDR (Ieaust) route, God they really dont make it easy do they!!!!! Your help on this is much appreciated thanks Barbs -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com

**barbs** · 08-20-2003, 06:35 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

3 years part time

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**SentApril2002** · 08-20-2003, 07:07 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Originally posted by barbs

My partner has a B.T.E.C, national cert in civil engineering.

What is the difference between technician and technologist? I know the
Sydney Accord makes it really easy for engineering technologists from
certain countries. I got my skills assessment under the Washington
Accord, which covers engineering degrees from certain countries, and it
only took a little over a month.

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**barbs** · 08-20-2003, 07:23 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

there is a big difference, you need a degree to get positive assessment
as technologist

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**Jerry Hooper** · 08-20-2003, 09:24 PM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Hi Barb,

It is likely that he could be assessed as either a Civil Engineering
Technician Vetassess) or Civil Engineering Associate (IEAust). Both
occupations are worth 40 points.

These are the ASCO descriptions of these occupations:

UNIT GROUP 3122 CIVIL ENGINEERING ASSOCIATE PROFESSIONALS

CIVIL ENGINEERING ASSOCIATE PROFESSIONALS assist in civil engineering
research, design, construction, operations and

maintenance.

Skill Level:

The entry requirement for this unit group is an AQF Certificate IV, AQF
Diploma or higher qualification or at least 3 years

relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in
addition to the formal qualification.

Tasks Include:

ß performing and directing fieldwork and laboratory testing

ß collecting and analysing data, and carrying out computations

ß preparing sketches, charts, tabulations, plans and designs for
construction work

ß estimating material costs and ensuring finished works are within
specifications, regulations and contract provisions

ß inspecting civil engineering works and organising and supervising
maintenance and repair work

Occupations: 3122-11 Civil Engineering Associate

3122-13 Civil Engineering Technician

3122-11 Civil Engineering Associate

Civil Engineering Technical Officer

Prepares drawings and plans, estimates costs and checks

engineering work in support of civil engineers.

Skill Level:

The entry requirement for this occupation is an AQF Diploma

or higher qualification or at least 3 years relevant experience. In

some instances relevant experience is required in addition to

the formal qualification. Registration or licensing may be

required.

Tasks Include:

ß prepares diagrams, drawings, plans and designs for

construction work under the direction of civil engineers and

engineering technologists

ß interprets work assignment instructions, applies appropriate

procedures and selects equipment

ß performs and directs fieldwork and laboratory testing

ß analyses data and carries out computations

ß estimates material costs and ensures finished works are within

specifications, regulations and contract provisions

ß inspects civil engineering works and organises and supervises

maintenance and repair work

Specialisations:

Civil Engineering Design Draftsperson

Road Design Draftsperson

Sewage Reticulation Drafting Officer

Structural Engineering Drafting Officer

3122-13 Civil Engineering Technician

Conducts tests of construction materials and prepares sketches

and tabulations in support of civil engineers and civil

engineering associates.

Skill Level:

The entry requirement for this occupation is an AQF Certificate

IV or higher qualification or at least 3 years relevant experience.

In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to

the formal qualification. Registration or licensing may be

required.

Tasks Include:

ß interprets work assignment instructions, applies appropriate

procedures and selects equipment under the direction of civil

engineers, engineering technologists and engineering

associates

ß conducts field and laboratory tests of construction materials

and soils, and collects data for traffic surveys

ß prepares computations, sketches, charts and tabulations for

civil engineering works such as drainage, water supply, sewage

reticulation systems, roads, airports, dams, bridges and other

structures

Specialisations:

Civil Engineering Assistant

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**matethreat** · 08-20-2003, 09:59 PM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

You don't actually need a degree to get assessed as a technologist. I
got my assessment as a Mechanical Engineering Technologist under the
Sydney Accord and it is only a two year diploma.

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**barbs** · 08-20-2003, 11:37 PM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Jerry

thanks for your help, however I was wondering for him to be assessed by
vetassess does he not need equvalent of oz diploma which is 2 years full
time study, he has three years part time, a migration expert told me
that he would have to go down the cdr route?????????? with Ieasut
(assessed as associate) as vetessess would not give him positive
assesment.

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**Jerry Hooper** · 08-21-2003, 05:54 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Barb,

The Diploma is actually one year full time study after 12 years of school
(year 13). So he might qualify. The only way to find out would be submit
his qualifications for assessment. The fee is $360 for an assessment of
offshore qualifications. Certainly if there is any doubt then the CDR route
might be be better. I have help quite a few Engineers get positive skills
assessment through going through the CDR route. My understanding of IEAust
is that they are looking for an even higher qualification than Vetassess.
Note that for a Civil Engineering Technicial (Vetassess) they require an AQF
Certificate IV .. this is basically the equivalent of year 12, so I think he
would qualify for that.

Where are you planning to migrate to. Will you partner contribute points to
your application or do you have rellies in a designated area?

Regards

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Jerry thanks for your help, however I was wondering for him to be assessed by vetassess does he not need equvalent of oz diploma which is 2 years full time study, he has three years part time, a migration expert told me that he would have to go down the cdr route?????????? with Ieasut (assessed as associate) as vetessess would not give him positive assesment. -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com

**barbs** · 08-21-2003, 11:49 PM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

Jerry,

sorry for the delay replying, on the vestessa website is says AQF
diploma required or above I was also talking to a migration expert and
he thought that my partner would not get positive assesement from
vetassess, however as you know we would much prefer to go down this
route rather than cdr, are you sure that a B.T.E.C, 3 year part time
would be sufficent, he has over 10 years experience as is working at a
much higher level now but I know that vetassess does not take this into
account, at the end of the day its 40 points either way and we would
prefer to go down the easier route rather than doing the long cdr, if
possible. no we dont have relatives in designated area, none of this
process so far has been easy, I get 50 points hopefully for my job
occupation, marketing specialist with a degree and masters we will also
need to invest the $100,000 to get the bonus points, dont know how we
will raise this cash, would have about half it may have to borrow other
half, I know you are not really meant to do this, but I get the
impression from this site that people do, do you know anything on this??

thanks

Barbs

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**barbs** · 08-22-2003, 05:44 AM

Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

http://www.vetassess.com.au/migration/occupations.htm

The above web address gives the points however from looking at other
posts on this site I understand that a HNC B.T.E.C is the equivalent of
oz diploma, my partner has told me he has B.T.E.C national diploma , im
not sure if there is a difference between that and HNC, need to talk to
him, however you advice about contacting the agencies is dead on, I have
already contacted Ieaust re CDR for engineering assoicate, they have
told me to go ahead with him application (he real strength is work experience-
over 10 years) however them telling us to go ahead is not a guarantee as
Im sure you well know, we will contact Vet. as it would be much easier
to go down this route if he is eligble

thanks for your help, advice is always very welcome!!

Barbs

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