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    My partner has a B.T.E.C, national cert in civil engineering. I know
    that vetassess do not take work experience into account but would he
    still get possitive assesment as civil engineering technician ( he has
    been working in this capacity and above for over 10 years). He also has
    done course in CAD 3D design, but has no offical qualifaction for this.
    It says that he needsaan AQF Diploma, does that mean he is not eligible
    and will have to go down CDR (Ieaust) route, God they really dont make
    it easy do they!!!!!



    Your help on this is much appreciated

    thanks

    Barbs


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    Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

    Barbs,

    How many years study did your partner do to get his B. T. E. C. national
    certificate in civil engineering? It might be that this certificate is
    considered the same level as an AQF Diploma.

    Regards




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    My partner has a B.T.E.C, national cert in civil engineering. I know that vetassess do not take work experience into account but would he still get possitive assesment as civil engineering technician ( he has been working in this capacity and above for over 10 years). He also has done course in CAD 3D design, but has no offical qualifaction for this. It says that he needsaan AQF Diploma, does that mean he is not eligible and will have to go down CDR (Ieaust) route, God they really dont make it easy do they!!!!! Your help on this is much appreciated thanks Barbs -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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    • #3
      Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


      3 years part time


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      • #4
        Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


        Originally posted by barbs
        My partner has a B.T.E.C, national cert in civil engineering.


        What is the difference between technician and technologist? I know the
        Sydney Accord makes it really easy for engineering technologists from
        certain countries. I got my skills assessment under the Washington
        Accord, which covers engineering degrees from certain countries, and it
        only took a little over a month.


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        • #5
          Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


          there is a big difference, you need a degree to get positive assessment
          as technologist


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          • #6
            Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

            Hi Barb,

            It is likely that he could be assessed as either a Civil Engineering
            Technician Vetassess) or Civil Engineering Associate (IEAust). Both
            occupations are worth 40 points.

            These are the ASCO descriptions of these occupations:

            UNIT GROUP 3122 CIVIL ENGINEERING ASSOCIATE PROFESSIONALS

            CIVIL ENGINEERING ASSOCIATE PROFESSIONALS assist in civil engineering
            research, design, construction, operations and

            maintenance.

            Skill Level:

            The entry requirement for this unit group is an AQF Certificate IV, AQF
            Diploma or higher qualification or at least 3 years

            relevant experience. In some instances relevant experience is required in
            addition to the formal qualification.

            Tasks Include:

            ß performing and directing fieldwork and laboratory testing

            ß collecting and analysing data, and carrying out computations

            ß preparing sketches, charts, tabulations, plans and designs for
            construction work

            ß estimating material costs and ensuring finished works are within
            specifications, regulations and contract provisions

            ß inspecting civil engineering works and organising and supervising
            maintenance and repair work



            Occupations: 3122-11 Civil Engineering Associate

            3122-13 Civil Engineering Technician

            3122-11 Civil Engineering Associate



            Civil Engineering Technical Officer

            Prepares drawings and plans, estimates costs and checks

            engineering work in support of civil engineers.



            Skill Level:

            The entry requirement for this occupation is an AQF Diploma

            or higher qualification or at least 3 years relevant experience. In

            some instances relevant experience is required in addition to

            the formal qualification. Registration or licensing may be

            required.



            Tasks Include:

            ß prepares diagrams, drawings, plans and designs for

            construction work under the direction of civil engineers and

            engineering technologists

            ß interprets work assignment instructions, applies appropriate

            procedures and selects equipment

            ß performs and directs fieldwork and laboratory testing

            ß analyses data and carries out computations

            ß estimates material costs and ensures finished works are within

            specifications, regulations and contract provisions

            ß inspects civil engineering works and organises and supervises

            maintenance and repair work

            Specialisations:

            Civil Engineering Design Draftsperson

            Road Design Draftsperson

            Sewage Reticulation Drafting Officer

            Structural Engineering Drafting Officer



            3122-13 Civil Engineering Technician



            Conducts tests of construction materials and prepares sketches

            and tabulations in support of civil engineers and civil

            engineering associates.



            Skill Level:

            The entry requirement for this occupation is an AQF Certificate

            IV or higher qualification or at least 3 years relevant experience.

            In some instances relevant experience is required in addition to

            the formal qualification. Registration or licensing may be

            required.



            Tasks Include:

            ß interprets work assignment instructions, applies appropriate

            procedures and selects equipment under the direction of civil

            engineers, engineering technologists and engineering

            associates

            ß conducts field and laboratory tests of construction materials

            and soils, and collects data for traffic surveys

            ß prepares computations, sketches, charts and tabulations for

            civil engineering works such as drainage, water supply, sewage

            reticulation systems, roads, airports, dams, bridges and other

            structures



            Specialisations:

            Civil Engineering Assistant




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            • #7
              Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


              You don't actually need a degree to get assessed as a technologist. I
              got my assessment as a Mechanical Engineering Technologist under the
              Sydney Accord and it is only a two year diploma.


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                Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


                Jerry



                thanks for your help, however I was wondering for him to be assessed by
                vetassess does he not need equvalent of oz diploma which is 2 years full
                time study, he has three years part time, a migration expert told me
                that he would have to go down the cdr route?????????? with Ieasut
                (assessed as associate) as vetessess would not give him positive
                assesment.


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                  Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess

                  Barb,

                  The Diploma is actually one year full time study after 12 years of school
                  (year 13). So he might qualify. The only way to find out would be submit
                  his qualifications for assessment. The fee is $360 for an assessment of
                  offshore qualifications. Certainly if there is any doubt then the CDR route
                  might be be better. I have help quite a few Engineers get positive skills
                  assessment through going through the CDR route. My understanding of IEAust
                  is that they are looking for an even higher qualification than Vetassess.
                  Note that for a Civil Engineering Technicial (Vetassess) they require an AQF
                  Certificate IV .. this is basically the equivalent of year 12, so I think he
                  would qualify for that.

                  Where are you planning to migrate to. Will you partner contribute points to
                  your application or do you have rellies in a designated area?

                  Regards




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                  Jerry thanks for your help, however I was wondering for him to be assessed by vetassess does he not need equvalent of oz diploma which is 2 years full time study, he has three years part time, a migration expert told me that he would have to go down the cdr route?????????? with Ieasut (assessed as associate) as vetessess would not give him positive assesment. -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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                    Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


                    Jerry,

                    sorry for the delay replying, on the vestessa website is says AQF
                    diploma required or above I was also talking to a migration expert and
                    he thought that my partner would not get positive assesement from
                    vetassess, however as you know we would much prefer to go down this
                    route rather than cdr, are you sure that a B.T.E.C, 3 year part time
                    would be sufficent, he has over 10 years experience as is working at a
                    much higher level now but I know that vetassess does not take this into
                    account, at the end of the day its 40 points either way and we would
                    prefer to go down the easier route rather than doing the long cdr, if
                    possible. no we dont have relatives in designated area, none of this
                    process so far has been easy, I get 50 points hopefully for my job
                    occupation, marketing specialist with a degree and masters we will also
                    need to invest the $100,000 to get the bonus points, dont know how we
                    will raise this cash, would have about half it may have to borrow other
                    half, I know you are not really meant to do this, but I get the
                    impression from this site that people do, do you know anything on this??



                    thanks



                    Barbs


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                      Civil Eneineering Technician Vetassess


                      http://www.vetassess.com.au/migration/occupations.htm



                      The above web address gives the points however from looking at other
                      posts on this site I understand that a HNC B.T.E.C is the equivalent of
                      oz diploma, my partner has told me he has B.T.E.C national diploma , im
                      not sure if there is a difference between that and HNC, need to talk to
                      him, however you advice about contacting the agencies is dead on, I have
                      already contacted Ieaust re CDR for engineering assoicate, they have
                      told me to go ahead with him application (he real strength is work experience-
                      over 10 years) however them telling us to go ahead is not a guarantee as
                      Im sure you well know, we will contact Vet. as it would be much easier
                      to go down this route if he is eligble



                      thanks for your help, advice is always very welcome!!



                      Barbs


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