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  • allyou is a troll.

    You must think I'm as stupid as you, allyou!.

    The first order of business anytime one must deal with a bull****
    artist like you, is to check the facts for validity.

    From the path of your newsgroup posting I see your post originated
    with conversent and then went to giganews.

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    Checking what conversent is into, I find the following:

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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The email you sent me purports to originate at kmaine.com.

    http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of:
    KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERING
    Gorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038

    My ISP's mail server received this email directly from mail.kmaine.com
    which strongly suggests earthlink might be hosting kmaine.com. Even if
    not, kmaine is immediately downstream from earthlink, so I won't
    bother with the lookup.


    What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel.
    He's much too polite to be you.

    He also said the email address you used is not his.

    I then sent this message on the comments page with your direct email,
    including headers appended.

    Please insure the appropriate people get this message.
    After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have one
    of two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeed
    the person who sent me this email and politely lied
    to me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and is
    attempting to cause him trouble. Thank you.
    D. Eastman.

    ***********************

    Having established that you are a troll, enjoy the meal. It's the last
    troll feeding you get.



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    OK, ****head. Now that I've established contact with you, reply to this
    note and I'll tell you exactly where you can find me, and when. And I
    also
    want to know where I can find you, *******.

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    "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:%[email protected] k.net...
    AllYou! wrote:
    "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] .net...
    VRWC2 wrote:>=========================================== ===============>On Tuesday, the Senate will vote on the "Real ID Act", i.e. national>ID.National ID over my dead body.
    From your keyboard to God's ear.
    Don't ever let me find out who you really are.
    Why not? I've got no reason to fear you. Tell you what I'll
    do.......give me your
    private email address and I'll tell you exactly who I am and where you
    can find me and
    when. OK?
    ************************************************** ********************



    --
    LEGAL DISCLAIMER
    I am not a Tax Lawyer, Nor do I play Dan Evans on the internet.
    I am not a Certified Public Accountant, Nor do I play Paul Thomas on
    the internet.
    I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the
    internet.
    DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
    Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
    found the truth.

    I may be contacted off group via this page:
    http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/Contact.html

    Examine what the government doesn't want you to see, here:
    http://www.861.info/


  • #2
    Dale Eastman is a troll.

    by Dale Eastman <[email protected]>

    The first order of business anytime one must deal with a bull****
    artist like you, is to check the facts for validity.
    From the path of your newsgroup posting I see your post originated
    with conversent and then went to giganews.

    Follow that "path" dale!


    www.quatlosers.com
    Larken Rose
    When a scam gets rolling, all sorts of human ****roaches come out of the
    woodwork to try to cash in. This is the perfect description of Larken
    Rose, a scammer come lately to the world of tax protesting Not being smart
    enough to come up with any unique theory of his own, Larken has simply
    latched on to the “861” or “Income Can’t Be Defined” arguments that end up
    with the conclusion that only foreigners are required to pay income tax.
    taxableincome. 861.
    http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html
    The claim is that the Internal Revenue Code does not apply to most of the
    income of citizens of the United States because the only definitions of
    "sources of income" apply only to nonresident aliens and foreign
    corporations. (See I.R.C. section 861 and its regulations.) This argument
    is completely contrary to the express language of the Internal Revenue
    Code and its regulations.
    http://www.fraudsandscams.com
    For federal income tax purposes, “gross income” means all income from
    whatever source derived and includes compensation for services. I.R.C. §
    61. Any income, from whatever source, is presumed to be income under
    section 61, unless the taxpayer can establish that it is specifically
    exempted or excluded. In Reese v. United States, 24 F.3d 228, 231 (Fed.
    Cir. 1994), the court stated, “an abiding principle of federal tax law is
    that, absent an enumerated exception, gross income means all income from
    whatever source derived.”

    www.quatlosers.com larken rose "861" internet tax scams
    www.evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

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    • #3
      Be very careful, ****head.

      You're treading on very, very dangerous ground here, and you may just be getting in over
      your head. I warn you in no uncertain circumstances that you had better be very very
      careful.

      "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
      news:[email protected] nk.net...
      You must think I'm as stupid as you, allyou!. The first order of business anytime one must deal with a bull**** artist like you, is to check the facts for validity. From the path of your newsgroup posting I see your post originated with conversent and then went to giganews. dca.giganews.com!nntp.conversent.net!news.converse nt.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Checking what conversent is into, I find the following: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Overview Conversent Internet Solutions Reliable, high-speed Internet solutions from Conversent Communications connect your business to the world. Conversent offers flexible services that can fulfill any of your Internet demands from Internet access, to virtual private networks, to web hosting, and more. Internet Solutions + DSL + Integrated Service + Dedicated Internet Access + Wireless Services + Dial Up + Internet Security - Managed Firewall - VPN Private Networks + Secure Private Networks (ATM) + Point-to-Point Services + Internet Security - Managed Firewall - VPN Hosted Services + Web Hosting - Windows Hosting - Unix Hosting + Colocation Services - Data Center - Switch Site + FTP Hosting http://conversent.net/website/produc...d=13&type=data $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The products and services are directed at businesses, although they could be selling them to consumers as well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The email you sent me purports to originate at kmaine.com. http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of: KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERING Gorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038 My ISP's mail server received this email directly from mail.kmaine.com which strongly suggests earthlink might be hosting kmaine.com. Even if not, kmaine is immediately downstream from earthlink, so I won't bother with the lookup. What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel. He's much too polite to be you. He also said the email address you used is not his. I then sent this message on the comments page with your direct email, including headers appended. Please insure the appropriate people get this message. After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have one of two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeed the person who sent me this email and politely lied to me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and is attempting to cause him trouble. Thank you. D. Eastman. *********************** Having established that you are a troll, enjoy the meal. It's the last troll feeding you get. ************************************************** ******************** From - Thu May 12 07:51:00 2005 X-UIDL: 1dwblH3IY3NZFmQ0 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Status: U Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mail.kmaine.com ([209.113.188.154]) by tanager.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1dwblH3IY3NZFmQ0 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by comserver with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <KXQD3L43>; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:54:19 -0400 Message-ID: <[email protected] r> From: "Normand R. Trudel" <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: hormel Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:54:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C556E0.F26BEEF0" X-ELNK-AV: 0 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556E0.F26BEEF0 Content-Type: text/plain OK, ****head. Now that I've established contact with you, reply to this note and I'll tell you exactly where you can find me, and when. And I also want to know where I can find you, *******. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556E0.F26BEEF0 Content-Type: text/html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=020505310-12052005>OK, ****head.&nbsp; Now that I've established contact with you, reply to this note and I'll tell you exactly where you can find me, and when.&nbsp; And I also want to know where I can find you, *******.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556E0.F26BEEF0-- ************************************************** ******************** ************************************************** ******************** Path:
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      AllYou! wrote:
      "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] .net...>>VRWC2 wrote:>>>>======================================== ==================>>On Tuesday, the Senate will vote on the "Real ID Act", i.e. national>>ID.>>National ID over my dead body. From your keyboard to God's ear.
      Don't ever let me find out who you really are.
      Why not? I've got no reason to fear you. Tell you what I'll do.......give me your private email address and I'll tell you exactly who I am and where you can find me and when. OK? ************************************************** ******************** -- LEGAL DISCLAIMER I am not a Tax Lawyer, Nor do I play Dan Evans on the internet. I am not a Certified Public Accountant, Nor do I play Paul Thomas on the internet. I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the internet. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST. Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have found the truth. I may be contacted off group via this page: http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/Contact.html Examine what the government doesn't want you to see, here: http://www.861.info/

      Comment


      • #4
        Be very careful, ****head.



        brinks·man·ship (br¹ngks“-) --n. The practice,
        especially in international politics, of seeking
        advantage by creating the impression that one is
        willing and able to push a highly dangerous situation
        to the limit rather than concede.

        I've been dead once. I've been over the precipice and back.


        AllYou! wrote:
        You're treading on very, very dangerous ground here, and you may just be getting in over your head. I warn you in no uncertain circumstances that you had better be very very careful.
        brinks·man·ship (br¹ngks“-) --n. The practice,
        especially in international politics, of seeking
        advantage by creating the impression that one is
        willing and able to push a highly dangerous situation
        to the limit rather than concede.

        I've been dead once. I've been over the precipice and back.


        Whatsa matter girlie man. What gotcher knickers in a bunch?
        Didn't think I'd follow up on your stupidity?
        You must think I'm as stupid as you, allyou!.The first order of business anytime one must deal with a bull****artist like you, is to check the facts for validity.
        Which is what follows.
        The email you sent me purports to originate at kmaine.com.http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of:KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERINGGorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038
        What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel.He's much too polite to be you.He also said the email address you used is not his.
        But if it was really you, you had your chance to say your piece right
        into my ear.

        Ergo, it wasn't you, or you're a chicken**** girlie man.

        I then sent this message on the comments page with your direct email,including headers appended.Please insure the appropriate people get this message.After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have oneof two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeedthe person who sent me this email and politely liedto me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and isattempting to cause him trouble. Thank you.D. Eastman.***********************Having established that you are a troll, enjoy the meal. It's the lasttroll feeding you get.
        Now go away you effeminate ****sicle ******.



        --
        LEGAL DISCLAIMER
        I am not a Tax Lawyer, Nor do I play Dan Evans on the internet.
        I am not a Certified Public Accountant, Nor do I play Paul Thomas on
        the internet.
        I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the
        internet.
        DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
        Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
        found the truth.

        I may be contacted off group via this page:
        http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/Contact.html

        Examine what the government doesn't want you to see, here:
        http://www.861.info/

        Comment


        • #5
          Be very careful, ****head.



          AllYou! wrote:
          You're treading on very, very dangerous ground here, and you may just be getting in over your head. I warn you in no uncertain circumstances that you had better be very very careful.
          The email you sent me purports to originate at kmaine.com.http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of:KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERINGGorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038

          What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel.He's much too polite to be you.He also said the email address you used is not his.I then sent this message on the comments page with your direct email,including headers appended.Please insure the appropriate people get this message.After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have oneof two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeedthe person who sent me this email and politely liedto me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and isattempting to cause him trouble. Thank you.D. Eastman.
          On 31 December 1993, Normand Trudel, who had been
          General Manager of the company for the previous
          eleven years, purchased Knowlton Machine Engineering
          and is its current owner. Immediately upon acquiring
          the company, a plan was implemented to transform the
          company into a modern CNC service shop; to recapture
          its position as a preeminent designer of custom
          machinery; and to become sole-source manufacturers of
          entire tooling systems.
          http://www.kmaine.com/about/history.htm


          Well if you're going to pretend to be somebody you're not, pretend big.





          --
          LEGAL DISCLAIMER
          I am not a Tax Lawyer, Nor do I play Dan Evans on the internet.
          I am not a Certified Public Accountant, Nor do I play Paul Thomas on
          the internet.
          I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the
          internet.
          DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
          Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
          found the truth.

          I may be contacted off group via this page:
          http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/Contact.html

          Examine what the government doesn't want you to see, here:
          http://www.861.info/

          Comment


          • #6
            Be very careful, ****head.

            I think that you're playing a very stupid a very dangerous game, and you have no idea
            exactly how radically your life can change over it.

            "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
            news:[email protected] k.net...
            brinks·man·ship (br¹ngks“-) --n. The practice, especially in international politics, of seeking advantage by creating the impression that one is willing and able to push a highly dangerous situation to the limit rather than concede. I've been dead once. I've been over the precipice and back. AllYou! wrote:
            You're treading on very, very dangerous ground here, and you may just be getting in
            over
            your head. I warn you in no uncertain circumstances that you had better be very very careful. brinks·man·ship (br¹ngks“-) --n. The practice, especially in international politics, of seeking advantage by creating the impression that one is willing and able to push a highly dangerous situation to the limit rather than concede. I've been dead once. I've been over the precipice and back. Whatsa matter girlie man. What gotcher knickers in a bunch? Didn't think I'd follow up on your stupidity?
            You must think I'm as stupid as you, allyou!.The first order of business anytime one must deal with a bull****artist like you, is to check the facts for validity.
            Which is what follows.
            The email you sent me purports to originate at kmaine.com.http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of:KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERINGGorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel.He's much too polite to be you.He also said the email address you used is not his.
            But if it was really you, you had your chance to say your piece right into my ear. Ergo, it wasn't you, or you're a chicken**** girlie man.
            I then sent this message on the comments page with your direct email,including headers appended.Please insure the appropriate people get this message.After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have oneof two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeedthe person who sent me this email and politely liedto me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and isattempting to cause him trouble. Thank you.D. Eastman.***********************Having established that you are a troll, enjoy the meal. It's the lasttroll feeding you get.
            Now go away you effeminate ****sicle ******. -- LEGAL DISCLAIMER I am not a Tax Lawyer, Nor do I play Dan Evans on the internet. I am not a Certified Public Accountant, Nor do I play Paul Thomas on the internet. I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the internet. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST. Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have found the truth. I may be contacted off group via this page: http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/Contact.html Examine what the government doesn't want you to see, here: http://www.861.info/

            Comment


            • #7
              Be very careful, ****head.



              AllYou! wrote:
              I think that you're playing a very stupid a very dangerous game, and you have no idea exactly how radically your life can change over it.
              Yawn.


              brinks·man·ship (br¹ngks“-) --n. The practice,
              especially in international politics, of seeking
              advantage by creating the impression that one is
              willing and able to push a highly dangerous situation
              to the limit rather than concede.

              My heart stopped once. I've been dead once. I've been over the
              precipice and back. Nothing you can say or do will ever match that.

              The email you sent me originates at kmaine.com.

              http://kmaine.com/ is the domain of:
              KNOWLTON MACHINE ENGINEERING
              Gorham Industrial Park, Gorham ME 04038

              What I did do, is call KME and talk to Normand Trudel.

              I identified myself as Dale Eastman on the phone. I asked Mr. Trudel
              if he used the name AllYou! on the internet. He said he didn't. He
              also said the email address you used is not his. He's much too polite
              to be you.

              If it was really you, you had your chance to say your piece right
              into my ear.

              Why didn't you?


              Surely if it was you, you would have recognized my name and said your
              thing... But you didn't.

              Ergo, it wasn't you, or else you're a chicken**** girlie man.

              I then sent this message on the comments page of the KME web site with
              your direct email including headers appended.

              Please insure the appropriate people get this message.
              After speaking with Normand Trudel today, I have one
              of two conclusions to decide. 1. Mr. Trudel is indeed
              the person who sent me this email and politely lied
              to me, or, 2. Somebody doesn't like Mr. Trudel and is
              attempting to cause him trouble. Thank you.
              D. Eastman.





              On 31 December 1993, Normand Trudel, who had been
              General Manager of the company for the previous
              eleven years, purchased Knowlton Machine Engineering
              and is its current owner. Immediately upon acquiring
              the company, a plan was implemented to transform the
              company into a modern CNC service shop; to recapture
              its position as a preeminent designer of custom
              machinery; and to become sole-source manufacturers of
              entire tooling systems.
              http://www.kmaine.com/about/history.htm


              Well if you're going to pretend to be somebody you're not, pretend big.




              See, there's this little bit of logic.

              You posted a direct threating email to me.

              The path info of the email you sent to me was posted from the domain
              of KME. Now you could have faked the email address, but you couldn't
              have faked all the path information. Earthlink says it received the
              email from kmaine.com . The earthlink mail server "tanager" received
              the email. I recognize that name as one of Earthlink's that I have
              seen before.

              Return-Path: <[email protected]>
              Received: from mail.kmaine.com ([209.113.188.154])
              by tanager.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with
              SMTP id 1dwblH3IY3NZFmQ0
              for <[email protected]>; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:55:25
              -0700 (PDT)
              Received: by comserver with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
              id <KXQD3L43>; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:54:19 -0400
              Message-ID: <[email protected] r>

              The mail server listed, 209.113.188.154 is one of Conservent's servers:

              209.113.188.154 = [ host154.209.113.188.conversent.net ]

              OrgName: Conversent Communications
              OrgID: CONVER-100
              Address: 313 Boston Post Road West

              This matches the posting source and path for your posts to the newsgroups.

              dca.giganews.com!
              nntp.conversent.net!
              news.conversent.net.
              POSTED!not-for-mail

              And net address 209.113.188.154 is registered to:

              CustName: Knowlton Machine Engineering
              City: Gorham


              You used the name of a real person. A search engine shows the name to
              be real and linked to a residence 10.1 miles from the business address
              of KME. The operator/ secretary that handles the incoming phone calls
              connected me to a real person by that name. After speaking to that
              person, I found out from the web site that Mr. Trudel is the OWNER of
              KME.

              I would assume Mr. Trudel would be more concerned with running his
              business than with arguing with little ole me.

              Therefore, If you are not Mr. Trudel, and I don't think you are,
              because I think you to be just obnoxious enough to have made your
              comments directly in my ear, in a most impolite manner and the Mr.
              Trudel I spoke with was soft spoken and polite.

              If you are not Mr. Trudel you MUST know who he is, since you post to
              group, and email to me from HIS DOMAIN.

              Do post a message and tell us when Mr. Trudel fires you. Oh wait,
              you'll have to buy your own internet access.

              Still want to play, girlie man?




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              • #8
                Be very careful, ****head.

                "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]>
                Do post a message and tell us when Mr. Trudel fires you. Oh wait, you'll have to buy your own internet access. Still want to play, girlie man?

                Dale, in all your "research" do you ever think about why you were fired
                from most of your jobs?


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                • #9
                  Be very careful, ****head.


                  "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                  news:[email protected]
                  Ergo, it wasn't you, or else you're a chicken**** girlie man.
                  Yeah, I'll play. Reply to that email address and let me know where you are. I don't want
                  to hide behind email addresses or telephones. I'll meet you in person. Let me know where
                  you want to do this.

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                  • #10
                    Be very careful, ****head.



                    AllYou! wrote:
                    "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
                    Ergo, it wasn't you, or else you're a chicken**** girlie man.
                    Yeah, I'll play. Reply to that email address and let me know where you are. I don't want to hide behind email addresses or telephones. I'll meet you in person. Let me know where you want to do this.
                    ROTFLMAO.

                    Duh,

                    "I don't want to hide behind email addresses or telephones."

                    Posted by:
                    "AllYou!" <[email protected]>

                    You have my email address. Send me a scan of your birth certificate
                    with the name "AllYou!" on it, and I'll post it to the web for you.

                    Better yet, "normand", post it to your own KME web.

                    BTW, You had your chance to play when I had Normand Trudel, the owner
                    of KME on the phone.

                    You're nothing but an abnoxious troll.

                    Bye now effeminate little girlie man.



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                    the internet.
                    I am not an Enrolled Agent, Nor do I play Richard Macdonald on the
                    internet.
                    DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
                    Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
                    found the truth.

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                    • #11
                      Be very careful, ****head.


                      "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                      news:[email protected] nk.net...
                      AllYou! wrote:
                      "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
                      Ergo, it wasn't you, or else you're a chicken**** girlie man.
                      Yeah, I'll play. Reply to that email address and let me know where you are. I don't
                      want
                      to hide behind email addresses or telephones. I'll meet you in person. Let me know
                      where
                      you want to do this. ROTFLMAO. Duh, "I don't want to hide behind email addresses or telephones." Posted by: "AllYou!" <[email protected]> You have my email address. Send me a scan of your birth certificate with the name "AllYou!" on it, and I'll post it to the web for you. Better yet, "normand", post it to your own KME web. BTW, You had your chance to play when I had Normand Trudel, the owner of KME on the phone. You're nothing but an abnoxious troll. Bye now effeminate little girlie man.
                      DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
                      Exactly. you're a chicken **** lying *******. Want a tete-a-tete to prove differently?
                      I'm calling you out right here and now. You said that I'd better not let you figure out
                      how to find me. Well, I did that. Now come and get me, *******. Make the arrangements.
                      Let's see what you've got.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Be very careful, ****head.



                        AllYou! wrote:
                        More chicken **** bull**** from you, *******.
                        LOL.



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                        internet.
                        DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
                        Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
                        found the truth.

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                        • #13
                          Be very careful, ****head.


                          "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                          news:[email protected] ink.net...
                          AllYou! wrote:
                          More chicken **** bull**** from you, *******.
                          LOL.
                          DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
                          as though anyone would.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Be very careful, ****head.



                            AllYou! wrote:

                            Exactly. you're a chicken **** lying *******. Want a tete-a-tete to prove differently? I'm calling you out right here and now. You said that I'd better not let you figure out how to find me. Well, I did that. Now come and get me, *******. Make the arrangements. Let's see what you've got.
                            You can go ask Normand yourself if a person by the name of Dale
                            Eastman asked him some cryptic questions on the phone.

                            You ain't him.

                            If you were, you would have cussed me out right then and there.

                            And what I said, AllTroll! is, "Don't ever let me find out who you
                            really are."

                            But being the oppositional personality disordered individual that you
                            are, you insisted upon telling me who you are.

                            1. A pattern of negativistic, hostile, and defiant behavior
                            lasting at least 6 months, during which four (or more) of the
                            following are present:
                            1. often loses temper
                            2. often argues with adults
                            3. often actively defies or refuses to comply with
                            adults' requests or rules
                            4. often deliberately annoys people
                            5. often blames others for his or her mistakes or
                            misbehavior
                            6. is often touchy or easily annoyed by others
                            7. is often angry and resentful
                            8. is often spiteful or vindictive

                            Note: Consider a criterion met only if the behavior occurs
                            more frequently than is typically observed in individuals of
                            comparable age and developmental level.
                            http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-ch05.html

                            Since we really don't know if you leave puddles on the floor behind
                            you, we can't judge your developmental level.

                            But then again, maybe that's not your malfunction. Perhaps you are
                            just a bull**** artist.

                            Frankfurt notes that there has been a lot of
                            philosophical attention to truth and lying, but very
                            little to bull****, even though our society is awash
                            in it. Bull****, he claims, is different from lying.
                            A truth-teller and a liar share an important
                            commitment. In Lear's summary, "The person who aims
                            at the truth tries to figure out what the world is
                            like and to communicate that to others; the liar
                            attempts to deceive. But by his very attempt to
                            mislead others, the liar betrays his own concern,
                            however perverse, with how things are. As Frankfurt
                            puts it, the truth-teller and the liar are playing
                            opposite sides of the same game." Bull**** is neither
                            a deliberate nor inadvertent falsehood, and in fact
                            by Frankfurt's definition it may well be true. What
                            marks bull**** is the indifference of the speaker to
                            the truth or falsehood of what he says: "although it
                            is produced without concern with the truth, it need
                            not be false. The bull****ter is faking things. But
                            this does not mean that he necessarily gets them
                            wrong." There is an element of deception in
                            bull****ting, however: The bull****ter wants us to
                            believe that he cares, when in fact he doesn't: "The
                            fact about himself that the bull****ter hides . . .
                            is that the truth-value of his statements are of no
                            central interest to him; what we are not to
                            understand is that his intention is neither to report
                            the truth nor to conceal it."
                            http://www.leithart.com/archives/001244.php

                            Doesn't matter though, because you lied about who you are. Therefore,
                            what you say about anything else is to be viewed with the same
                            awareness of your past history of lying.




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                            the internet.
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                            internet.
                            DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING IN THIS POST.
                            Go look it up for yourself. That is the only way to know you have
                            found the truth.

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                            • #15
                              Be very careful, ****head.


                              "Dale Eastman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                              news:[email protected] ink.net...
                              AllYou! wrote:
                              Exactly. you're a chicken **** lying *******. Want a tete-a-tete to prove
                              differently?
                              I'm calling you out right here and now. You said that I'd better not let you figure
                              out
                              how to find me. Well, I did that. Now come and get me, *******. Make the
                              arrangements.
                              Let's see what you've got. You can go ask Normand yourself if a person by the name of Dale Eastman asked him some cryptic questions on the phone. You ain't him.
                              Who I am is of not as much importance as the fact that I'm calling you out right now, and
                              that I'm inviting you to come and tell me whatever you want to tell me in person. No
                              hiding behind emails and phones. Let's do this properly, like men. surely you can
                              pretend to be one for an hour or so. so what about it? Want to come see me? You warned
                              me not to let you find me, well now I'm taking you up on that challenge. Was it all hot
                              air? Are you too chicken ****?

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