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  • coolrayfruge
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    Get rid of taxes period!

    The IRS is a Legalized Exstortion scam.
    Cooked up by a bunch of Crooks.
    Its been robbing people of their god given Freedom since the first King came up with the idea.
    Giving them the legal right to rob and sell land and property that isn't theirs.
    It should be done away with along with this corrupt government of self serving greedy businessmen.

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  • Dick Adams
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    Originally posted by Anthony Giorgianni
    Thanks Wayne

    Here is the "offensive" post I sent out three DAYS ago to the moderated
    group. FYI, after I spoke with the IRS, the 30 percent number should now
    read 15 percent and the section under A) should read 25 percent. But
    otherwise, it's exactly as I posted. I anyone sees anything that violates
    the policy of the newsgroup, please let me know.

    COPY.........Hello All

    I'm hoping someone has the answer to this because the tax publications seem
    to be silent on it.

    Being self-employed, I'm trying to calculate the percentage that my
    exclusive home office takes up of the small condo I rent. But I'm not sure
    how to calculate it.

    Details: My condo is basically three living spaces -

    1st floor - a tiny kitchen and combination wide-open dining
    room/living room (plus tiny bathroom)
    2nd floor - a single large bedroom. (plus large bathroom)
    There also is an unfinished basement

    My office takes up the dining room, which is about one THIRD the size of the
    dining room/living room combo, or perhaps slightly less than 20 percent the
    square footage of the living spaces (not including unfinished basement, 2
    bathrooms, stairways, entryway and closets.)

    So........

    A) If I use the room method, can I say my office is one third (33 percent)
    of my home (one of three rooms), even though the dining room square footage
    is about 20 percent of both floors?

    B) If I use the square footage method, what do I include the unfinished
    basement, bathrooms, stairways, entryway and closets?

    I sure wish the publication gave guidance on how to do this. (Is there
    anything that I'm missing on the IRS site that explains this in detail?)
    Anyone know for sure? I want to be honest and pay my fair share, but I don't
    want to rip myself off either.

    Thanks for any help. (END COPY)


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.
    ..
    My apologies for coming here so late, but I only became aware of this today.
    I never saw the above post and I find nothing inappropriate with it.

    What gets deleted without comment are tax protester arguments and spam.

    **** Adams - Moderator of misc.taxes.moderated

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  • Gray Shockley
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:46:28 -0500, Anthony Giorgianni wrote
    (in article
    <[email protected]>):
    Hello All I would love to see the end of misc.taxes.moderated in favor of this group. Usenet groups focusing on technical issues like taxes seem to do pretty well without some self-appointed deity deciding which posts get in and which don't. For the second time my post to that group did not make it - a simple about how to calculate square footage for the purposes of taking a home office deduction. I didn't cross-post use curse words, reveal my age, ethnicity, heights, weight, hair color or anything else that my subject me to the Orwellian vagaries of the misc.taxes.moderated chopping tool. I finally gave up and went to the IRS. Of course, the guy who runs that newsgroup has a right to do whatever he wants. However, by running that site, he's fragmenting the tax help available on the Usenet. We should not subject ourselves to his opinion of what is a good question and what's a bad one. Maybe he can simply find something else to do, maybe take over for Castro when he goes. Can't we simply stop using that site? I suggest, if you post there and here, abandon there. Tell folks you know who go there to come here. Let anyone you know who goes there that it's time to abandon that exclusive club that makes posting difficult, if not impossible!!!!!!

    I take it that rather than believing in a heliocentric universe,
    you believe that the world revolves around you?

    Did you just - in the last couple of weeks - find out that you
    had to file income tax forms?

    The problem with a timely answer to your questions isn't how long
    the answers took but how late you asked them.

    Have you considered becoming a "tax protestor"<sic>? With your
    "personality", you'd fit right in.


    You appear to have your head up your malloy rosie spincter.



    Gray Shockley
    -------------------------------------------
    For every complex problem there is an answer
    that is clear, simple, and wrong.  - H. L. Mencken


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  • Richard Macdonald
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    "Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected] >
    wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    Also, since it took four days for my post to appear ... I wonder if I'd have to "chill" another four days for any response ... Let's see... April 16. "Well, Mr. Tax Man, the reason I filed late is because I was chilling waiting for the tax moderated to clear any responses. Great newsgroup.
    You get what you pay for.

    Good, Fast, Cheap, pick any two.


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  • Sheila
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated



    Anthony Giorgianni wrote:
    Also, since it took four days for my post to appear ... I wonder if I'd have to "chill" another four days for any response ... Let's see... April 16. "Well, Mr. Tax Man, the reason I filed late is because I was chilling waiting for the tax moderated to clear any responses.
    Did you think of paying a professional to answer your question?

    Great newsgroup. -- Regards, Anthony Giorgianni The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back to the newsgroup.

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  • Lord Salt
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    "Anthony Giorgianni"
    <[email protected] > wrote:
    No, "chill" is my point. Why should people seeking tax advice have to chill when people seeking advice on computers, car repairs, digital photography, free software, health, finance, music, etc get to post their questions and have them answered right away? What is so wrong with people seeking and providing tax advice that they have to be babied by the Usenet tax god? The Usenet should be open and free. By having a moderated group, this guy is making it difficult for people to get advice, diverting attention from the non-moderated group. Last year I sought tax advice for my 95 year old father and had the unmitigated audacity of cross posting to both the moderated and unmoderated versions of these groups - because I didn't know the rules of this moderated tax club, I disqualified my question from appearing on the moderated version where, apparently, the best advice is given. What the heck is wrong with cross-posting? You may have an expert on one group who is not reading the other. If this guy gets rid of the moderated version, people can concentrate on the standard, unmoderated group ... which is open to everyone to post immediately. This guy is just another example of a Usenet Stormtropper, creating an exclusive club that delays or even prevents people's access to help for some inexplicable reason. I have absolutely not appreciation for any of time he spends on this; I have only disdain. Moderated newsgroups largely are a thing if the past because they are a pain for the moderator and for everyone else. He's not doing anyone a service by spending his day at his job and delaying posts for days. If he doesn't have the time, then give it up, Jack. He's just creating a lot of unnecessary aggravation and doing an injustice to people who need help, especially so close to tax time. It is time for that group to hit the trash in favor of this one. -- Regards, Anthony Giorgianni The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back to the newsgroup.
    All moderated newsgroups take longer to propogate messages. You chose
    to post your message during the time when most tax preparers practically
    have to barricade the doors, and only see clients with specific
    time-slotted appointments. You should be very happy with your 4-day
    propogation, considering how close it is to April 15. You could have
    easily chosen to ask the question a month sooner, and would have gotten
    your response a month sooner. Besides, you got your answer here. The
    reason for the moderated newsgroup is to keep the noise level down.
    Here, tax protestors have mostly free reign, and the answer you need can
    easily get flooded by quantity, as opposed to quality, which you admit
    is what you get from the moderated newsgroup. You won't see many tax
    protestors there, as the moderator intentionally blocks them. If you
    feel this is a stormtrooper tactic, you are welcome to that opinion. If
    you think there is a problem with that newsgroup, you are certainly free
    to use your computer's (and your ISP's) resources and host your own
    newsgroup. If you've ever investigated what is involved in hosting your
    own newsgroup, you will realize that it can be costly and time
    consuming. Have some respect for the infrastructure you have taken for
    granted.

    "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]com> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    "Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]
    No, Phil. I expect it to run not like a chat room but like most every other Usenet newsgroup, in which it take about 30 seconds for posts to migrate worldwide, not THREE DAYS and counting.
    You've just admitted that you *do* expect it to run like a chat room.
    "Phil Marti" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]> "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]> wrote:>> > Why not post your question here exactly as you tried on the other> > newsgroup so we may all see what was so offensive to the moderator of that> > group?>> I doubt it's that. Rather, it's probably just the delay that happens> with> the moderated group. Some people think of Usenet as a chat room, and> when> they don't get a response in 5 minutes they assume the worst.> --> Phil Marti> Clarksburg, MD>> The nature of that newsgroup is different from most others. The moderator has a real job and doesn't get paid for what he does with this newsgroup. He accepts posts and replies as he has time to deal with them. Besides that, he has had some physical problems recently that have hampered his life. You have to learn a little patience. Chill! Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation

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  • Anthony Giorgianni
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    Also, since it took four days for my post to appear ... I wonder if I'd have
    to "chill" another four days for any response ... Let's see... April 16.
    "Well, Mr. Tax Man, the reason I filed late is because I was chilling
    waiting for the tax moderated to clear any responses.

    Great newsgroup.


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.


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  • Archmedes
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    Anthony Giorgianni wrote:
    Thanks for the alert. Four days for one post to appear, and now that I'm done with my taxes. Great. I would have no problem avoiding his newsgroup. But unfortunately it is siphoning off the best tax advice and watering down what you get here. That's the issue.
    Tax advice is like software....good, fast and cheap. Pick two.


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  • Anthony Giorgianni
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    Thanks for the alert. Four days for one post to appear, and now that I'm
    done with my taxes. Great. I would have no problem avoiding his newsgroup.
    But unfortunately it is siphoning off the best tax advice and watering down
    what you get here. That's the issue.


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.
    "Archmedes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...
    Your post is there now. Since you don't have the patience for moderated
    groups, you
    should probably avoid them in the future.

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  • Anthony Giorgianni
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    No, "chill" is my point. Why should people seeking tax advice have to chill
    when people seeking advice on computers, car repairs, digital photography,
    free software, health, finance, music, etc get to post their questions and
    have them answered right away? What is so wrong with people seeking and
    providing tax advice that they have to be babied by the Usenet tax god? The
    Usenet should be open and free. By having a moderated group, this guy is
    making it difficult for people to get advice, diverting attention from the
    non-moderated group.

    Last year I sought tax advice for my 95 year old father and had the
    unmitigated audacity of cross posting to both the moderated and unmoderated
    versions of these groups - because I didn't know the rules of this moderated
    tax club, I disqualified my question from appearing on the moderated version
    where, apparently, the best advice is given. What the heck is wrong with
    cross-posting? You may have an expert on one group who is not reading the
    other. If this guy gets rid of the moderated version, people can concentrate
    on the standard, unmoderated group ... which is open to everyone to post
    immediately.

    This guy is just another example of a Usenet Stormtropper, creating an
    exclusive club that delays or even prevents people's access to help for some
    inexplicable reason. I have absolutely not appreciation for any of time he
    spends on this; I have only disdain. Moderated newsgroups largely are a
    thing if the past because they are a pain for the moderator and for everyone
    else. He's not doing anyone a service by spending his day at his job and
    delaying posts for days. If he doesn't have the time, then give it up, Jack.
    He's just creating a lot of unnecessary aggravation and doing an injustice
    to people who need help, especially so close to tax time. It is time for
    that group to hit the trash in favor of this one.


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.
    "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    "Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]
    No, Phil. I expect it to run not like a chat room but like most every other Usenet newsgroup, in which it take about 30 seconds for posts to migrate worldwide, not THREE DAYS and counting. -- Regards, Anthony Giorgianni The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back to the newsgroup. "Phil Marti" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]> wrote: > Why not post your question here exactly as you tried on the other > newsgroup so we may all see what was so offensive to the moderator of
    that
    > group? I doubt it's that. Rather, it's probably just the delay that happens with the moderated group. Some people think of Usenet as a chat room, and when they don't get a response in 5 minutes they assume the worst. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD
    The nature of that newsgroup is different from most others. The moderator has a real job and doesn't get paid for what he does with this newsgroup. He accepts posts and replies as he has time to deal with them. Besides that, he has had some physical problems recently that have hampered his life. You have to learn a little patience. Chill! Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation

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  • Wayne Brasch
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated


    "Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected] >
    wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    No, Phil. I expect it to run not like a chat room but like most every other Usenet newsgroup, in which it take about 30 seconds for posts to migrate worldwide, not THREE DAYS and counting. -- Regards, Anthony Giorgianni The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back to the newsgroup. "Phil Marti" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Why not post your question here exactly as you tried on the other newsgroup so we may all see what was so offensive to the moderator of
    that
    group? I doubt it's that. Rather, it's probably just the delay that happens with the moderated group. Some people think of Usenet as a chat room, and when they don't get a response in 5 minutes they assume the worst. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD
    The nature of that newsgroup is different from most others. The moderator
    has a real job and doesn't get paid for what he does with this newsgroup.
    He accepts posts and replies as he has time to deal with them. Besides
    that, he has had some physical problems recently that have hampered his
    life. You have to learn a little patience. Chill!

    Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation


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  • Archmedes
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    Anthony Giorgianni wrote:
    Thanks Wayne Here is the "offensive" post I sent out three DAYS ago to the moderated group.
    Your post is there now. Since you don't have the patience for moderated groups, you
    should probably avoid them in the future.



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  • Paul A Thomas
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    Get rid of taxes.moderated


    "Anthony Giorgianni" wrote
    I expect it to run not like a chat room but like most every other Usenet newsgroup, in which it take about 30 seconds for posts to migrate worldwide, not THREE DAYS and counting.

    That is, after all, a moderated newsgroup, and the moderator has (or had) a
    real job.

    It just takes that long sometimes. When it's a planned "long-time" he lets
    folks know.

    But, I understand that you can ask for, and receive, a full refund of your
    fees changed by misc.taxes.moderated.




    --
    Paul A. Thomas, CPA
    Athens, Georgia
    taxman at negia.net


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  • Anthony Giorgianni
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    No, Phil.

    I expect it to run not like a chat room but like most every other Usenet
    newsgroup, in which it take about 30 seconds for posts to migrate worldwide,
    not THREE DAYS and counting.


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.

    "Phil Marti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    "Wayne Brasch" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Why not post your question here exactly as you tried on the other newsgroup so we may all see what was so offensive to the moderator of
    that
    group? I doubt it's that. Rather, it's probably just the delay that happens with the moderated group. Some people think of Usenet as a chat room, and when they don't get a response in 5 minutes they assume the worst. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD

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  • Anthony Giorgianni
    replied
    Get rid of taxes.moderated

    Thanks Wayne

    Here is the "offensive" post I sent out three DAYS ago to the moderated
    group. FYI, after I spoke with the IRS, the 30 percent number should now
    read 15 percent and the section under A) should read 25 percent. But
    otherwise, it's exactly as I posted. I anyone sees anything that violates
    the policy of the newsgroup, please let me know.

    COPY.........Hello All

    I'm hoping someone has the answer to this because the tax publications seem
    to be silent on it.

    Being self-employed, I'm trying to calculate the percentage that my
    exclusive home office takes up of the small condo I rent. But I'm not sure
    how to calculate it.

    Details: My condo is basically three living spaces -

    1st floor - a tiny kitchen and combination wide-open dining
    room/living room (plus tiny bathroom)
    2nd floor - a single large bedroom. (plus large bathroom)
    There also is an unfinished basement

    My office takes up the dining room, which is about one THIRD the size of the
    dining room/living room combo, or perhaps slightly less than 20 percent the
    square footage of the living spaces (not including unfinished basement, 2
    bathrooms, stairways, entryway and closets.)

    So........

    A) If I use the room method, can I say my office is one third (33 percent)
    of my home (one of three rooms), even though the dining room square footage
    is about 20 percent of both floors?

    B) If I use the square footage method, what do I include the unfinished
    basement, bathrooms, stairways, entryway and closets?

    I sure wish the publication gave guidance on how to do this. (Is there
    anything that I'm missing on the IRS site that explains this in detail?)
    Anyone know for sure? I want to be honest and pay my fair share, but I don't
    want to rip myself off either.

    Thanks for any help. (END COPY)


    --
    Regards,
    Anthony Giorgianni

    The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
    to the newsgroup.
    ..


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