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    Ok , just wondering what you think?
    I lived in US for 6 years had my greencard conditions lifted was
    supposed to go down to NYC to pick up my new 10 yr green card last year
    i got the letter, thing is i never got down there to get it, we moved to
    the UK, been here 7 months and want to go back, do you think if i was to
    go back on a visa waiver to get in then i was to get a new passport ( no
    stamps in it), then i was to go down to NYC and get my greencard, do you
    think i would get it? im ttrying to figure out a way to get it without
    having to start the whole process from scratch again.
    any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
    thanks
    emma

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    what do you think? would i get away with it?

    Ok , just wondering what you think? I lived in US for 6 years had my greencard conditions lifted was supposed to go down to NYC to pick up my new 10 yr green card last year i got the letter, thing is i never got down there to get it, we moved to the UK, been here 7 months and want to go back, do you think if i was to go back on a visa waiver to get in then i was to get a new passport ( no stamps in it), then i was to go down to NYC and get my greencard, do you think i would get it? im ttrying to figure out a way to get it without having to start the whole process from scratch again. any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. thanks emma
    Hi:

    I would not do it that way. Do you still have your EXPIRED I-551? That
    is a valid boarding document. You could then clear up things at the POE
    -- worse that will happen is that you will be deferred in for removal
    proceedings and you get to see an immigration judge.

    Also, it is possible to get some type of travel documentation from the
    Embassy [either consulate or DHS office therein -- I don't know the
    exact procedures]. Lets put it this way, there are procedures in place
    for LPR's whose wallets/purses have been stolen.

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    Certified Specialist
    Immigration & Nat. Law
    Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization
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      what do you think? would i get away with it?

      Hi: I would not do it that way. Do you still have your EXPIRED I-551? That is a valid boarding document. You could then clear up things at the POE -- worse that will happen is that you will be deferred in for removal proceedings and you get to see an immigration judge. Also, it is possible to get some type of travel documentation from the Embassy [either consulate or DHS office therein -- I don't know the exact procedures]. Lets put it this way, there are procedures in place for LPR's whose wallets/purses have been stolen.
      thank you for your reply. Yes i still have my expired green card, so i
      could use that to board in this country? then when i get there just see
      what happens at the POE? that would mean id been out the country for 12
      months, so that could be a problem, well it would be just over 12
      months. have sent letter to the consulate in London but as yet have not
      heard anything back from them. thanks again
      emma

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        what do you think? would i get away with it?

        thank you for your reply. Yes i still have my expired green card, so i could use that to board in this country? then when i get there just see what happens at the POE? that would mean id been out the country for 12 months, so that could be a problem, well it would be just over 12 months. have sent letter to the consulate in London but as yet have not heard anything back from them. thanks again emma
        Hi:

        You posted that you had been "here" abroad for 7 months. That is less
        than a year.

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        • #5
          what do you think? would i get away with it?

          Hi: You posted that you had been "here" abroad for 7 months. That is less than a year.
          Think he is planning to sell up before he heads back. Would be wiser to
          spend the money and head back tomorrow and get in and sorted out before
          12 months and then go back to the UK to settle up issues there.

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          • #6
            what do you think? would i get away with it?

            I Would recommend you to enter with your expired green card rather than
            going with a visa waiver.

            "scottygray" <[email protected]_expats.com> wrote in message
            news:[email protected] m...
            Ok , just wondering what you think? I lived in US for 6 years had my greencard conditions lifted was supposed to go down to NYC to pick up my new 10 yr green card last year i got the letter, thing is i never got down there to get it, we moved to the UK, been here 7 months and want to go back, do you think if i was to go back on a visa waiver to get in then i was to get a new passport ( no stamps in it), then i was to go down to NYC and get my greencard, do you think i would get it? im ttrying to figure out a way to get it without having to start the whole process from scratch again. any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. thanks emma -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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            • #7
              what do you think? would i get away with it?

              thank you for your reply. Yes i still have my expired green card, so i could use that to board in this country? then when i get there just see what happens at the POE? that would mean id been out the country for 12 months, so that could be a problem, well it would be just over 12 months. have sent letter to the consulate in London but as yet have not heard anything back from them. thanks again emma
              Well if it isn't more than 12 months you can return w/Expired GC. I
              guess if it is more than 12 months that you will need re-entry
              permit(and I believe that you have to get that b4 leaving US, more
              details http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new...rningres.html).
              If its not 12 months & for peace of mind you want "Transportation
              letter" the fee is
              $165(http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/cbp/expired_stamps.html)

              Good Luck

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              • #8
                what do you think? would i get away with it?

                Well if it isn't more than 12 months you can return w/Expired GC. I guess if it is more than 12 months that you will need re-entry permit(and I believe that you have to get that b4 leaving US, more details http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new...rningres.html). If its not 12 months & for peace of mind you want "Transportation letter" the fee is $165(http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/cbp/expired_stamps.html) Good Luck
                thank you so much for all the feedback. So i dont enter on visa waiver,
                either my expired green card or a transportation letter.
                i looked on the info about a transportation letter and it says its
                available if you have an expired I551 stamp in your passport, doesnt say
                anything about the expired temp green card, do you think i would still
                get it...if i go back within the year? trhank you again.

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                • #9
                  what do you think? would i get away with it?

                  thank you so much for all the feedback. So i dont enter on visa waiver, either my expired green card or a transportation letter. i looked on the info about a transportation letter and it says its available if you have an expired I551 stamp in your passport, doesnt say anything about the expired temp green card, do you think i would still get it...if i go back within the year? trhank you again.
                  Hi Scotty,

                  Please explain what you mean by "temp green card". The green card you
                  probably have which is expired, is the 2-year one, which is not a temp
                  green card.

                  Thanks,
                  Rene

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                  • #10
                    what do you think? would i get away with it?

                    thank you so much for all the feedback. So i dont enter on visa waiver, either my expired green card or a transportation letter. i looked on the info about a transportation letter and it says its available if you have an expired I551 stamp in your passport, doesnt say anything about the expired temp green card, do you think i would still get it...if i go back within the year? trhank you again.
                    There's no such thing as a temp green card. Perhaps you mean conditional
                    green card, which is not temporary. BTW, a CGC is a GC whether there are
                    conditions or not... they are equal in force and effect.

                    Ian

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                    • #11
                      what do you think? would i get away with it?

                      There's no such thing as a temp green card. Perhaps you mean conditional green card, which is not temporary. BTW, a CGC is a GC whether there are conditions or not... they are equal in force and effect. Ian
                      Also the GC and the I-551 stamp are the same thing.

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                      • #12
                        what do you think? would i get away with it?

                        Also the GC and the I-551 stamp are the same thing.
                        sorry yes i mean the 2 year green card, it expired last year. so it was
                        expired when i left the usa. so as i understand it , if i go before a
                        year i should have no problem getting the transportation permit to go
                        back? then when i get back i just make an appointment to go to the uscis
                        in NYC and get my new green card?
                        I thought i was going to have to file all over again for my green card!
                        thank goodness if thats not the case!

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                        • #13
                          what do you think? would i get away with it?

                          sorry yes i mean the 2 year green card, it expired last year. so it was expired when i left the usa. so as i understand it , if i go before a year i should have no problem getting the transportation permit to go back? then when i get back i just make an appointment to go to the uscis in NYC and get my new green card? I thought i was going to have to file all over again for my green card! thank goodness if thats not the case!
                          I don't think there is a "transportation permit" to go back. You simply
                          present your expired green card upon entry to the USA, and let the POE
                          deal with it. But if I were you, I'd do that ASAP, so that you don't
                          end up mistakenly abandoning your PR status.

                          Rene

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                          • #14
                            what do you think? would i get away with it?

                            I don't think there is a "transportation permit" to go back. You simply present your expired green card upon entry to the USA, and let the POE deal with it. But if I were you, I'd do that ASAP, so that you don't end up mistakenly abandoning your PR status. Rene
                            confused now! it says you can get a transportation letter if you have
                            been out of the states less than 12 months then i have to make
                            appointment then go to london and get this letter, have to show evidence
                            i have been out of the states less than a year, ie airline tickets,
                            which i can get a copy of. dont know if i should do that or just go with
                            expired GC and see what happens at POE in NY. it wont be for a few
                            months anyway till im able to get over there but it will still be under
                            a year that i will have been out of the country.

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                            • #15
                              what do you think? would i get away with it?

                              confused now! it says you can get a transportation letter if you have been out of the states less than 12 months then i have to make appointment then go to london and get this letter, have to show evidence i have been out of the states less than a year, ie airline tickets, which i can get a copy of. dont know if i should do that or just go with expired GC and see what happens at POE in NY. it wont be for a few months anyway till im able to get over there but it will still be under a year that i will have been out of the country.
                              If you want call the embassy & check with the Airlines also. As few
                              airlines might don't let you board w/expired GC. They might not be aware
                              of the fact & even if they are aware of that, they might give you hard
                              time(as the penalty for transporting illegal alien is @$5000 to the Air
                              Lines). I guess this won't happen as you hold the PP of VW country. Just
                              make sure that you don't pass that 12 molnth limit.

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