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    Take a quick peek at the DATE of this report before you continue reading...

    TRKNWS-L Turkish Press Review

    TRKNWS-L ([email protected])
    Thu, 17 Aug 95 05:52:28 PDT


    *THURSDAY AUGUST 17, 1995

    Summary of the political and economic news in the Turkish press
    this morning

    [with a few non-related items snipped -- see URL for full report]


    Nearly 40 Turkish nationals, convicted on or charged with drug
    offenses, are facing possible execution in Saudi prisons. Saudi
    Ambassador in Ankara, Naci al-Mufti said his country would
    continue to carry out executions in accordance with Islamic
    law despite protests from Turkey about the beheading of four
    Turks. He told the official Saudi Press Agency late on Tuesday
    that "Saudi Arabia will not submit to any pressures aimed at
    changing a religious sentence because of the wishes of some
    parties". "The protests of some parties against the execution
    by Saudi authorities of some of these countries' nationals
    because of drug trafficking will not affect the continued
    implementation of the religious sentence applied in Saudi
    Arabi" he added. Replying to a question regarding the executions,
    Prime Minister Tansu Ciller said: "These will harm the friendly
    relations between the two countries. Our president is concerned
    about this issue. I will phone King Fahd and try to prevent
    these executions. I call upon Saudi officials to intercede".

    Turkish Foreign Ministry Deputy Spokesman Nurettin Nurkan, when
    asked at his weekly press briefing if Turkey would react to the
    Saudi Ambassador's remarks, said Ankara was basically waiting
    for King Fahd's reply to a note from President Demirel before
    expressing further reaction. "But in the meantime" Nurkan said:
    "We hope the ambassador will behave in a way that doesn't
    obstruct improvement of relations between Turkey and Saudi
    Arabia". Nurkan said at this time Turkey was not considering
    calling back its ambassador in Riyadh in protest over the
    executions. He said Foreign Minister Erdal Inonu, currently
    attending a tour of three Central Asian countries with Prime
    Minister Tansu Ciller, had a telephone conversation with his
    Saudi counterpart late on Tuesday. Meanwhile, public reaction
    over the beheadings continued to intensify on Wednesday. Deputy
    Prime Minister Hikmet Cetin, State Minister responsible for
    Human Rights Algan Hacaloglu, and representatives from several
    political parties and social organizations denounced the
    beheadings in Saudi Arabia. The Ankara branch of the Republican
    People's Party (CHP) yesterday laid a "black wreath" in front of
    the Saudi Embassy in Ankara. /Cumhuriyet-Milliyet-Hurriyet/


    Amnesty International, criticized by the Turkish press for its
    non-interference in the capital punishment issue in Saudi
    Arabia, has released a statement noting that the organization
    has been appealing for banning capital punishment since April,
    1995, and noted that the text of the judgment against the Turks
    now executed was also added to the appeal. According to
    Amnesty International, in this year alone there have been 145
    executions in Saudi Arabia and that 70 percent of those charged
    were foreigners. /Hurriyet/


    Dr.Huseyin Bagci from the METU Department for International
    Relations, said that the beheadings in Saudi Arabia were an
    outrage for Turkey and for the Islam. He added that such
    executions could not be explained by any religious or moral
    arguments. All Turkish citizens, including the president, and
    all civil organizations should voice their reactions against
    this barbarity, and diplomatic steps should be undertaken for
    stopping the unbelievable cruelty, Bagci said. He noted that
    in the 1980s, Germany has succeeded in stopping the execution
    of a German citizen charged with drug smuggling in
    Malaysia and stressed that Turkey also could bring an end to
    further cruelty in Saudi Arabia. "Is the life of a Mehmet any
    the less valuable than the life of a Hans?" Bagci asked.
    On the other hand, Prof.Sulhi Donmezler said that every country
    had the sovereign right to determine its laws and punishments
    and noted that the beheading, even though described as a
    "barbarity" abroad, was a legal punishment in Saudi Arabia. He
    added that people visiting a foreign country were assumed to
    know its laws, and were subject to the legal regulations there
    even if they were not aware of the laws. "Whatever our attitude
    toward capital punishments is, the laws in Saudi Arabia allow
    for it" Donmezler said. /Sabah/


    Representatives of the Asta medical company, producer of the
    Captagon hallucinogen have expressed their astonishment over the
    recent executions in Saudi Arabia. Captagon is produced in
    Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Venezuela and it is sold in 15
    EU member countries, company officials said. Since counterfeit
    Captagon contains some dangerous components, the company has had
    to fight medicine counterfeiters and has succeeded in some
    measure to block the illegal production of the hallucinogenic
    medicine. Asta representatives have evaluated the attitude of
    the Saudi Arabian officials as "barbaric". /Sabah/


    Speaking to a visiting group of European Union (EU)
    parliamentarians, President Demirel warned that Turkey
    had to be included in the customs union as a prelude
    to full membership in the EU.

    Threatening that refusing Turkey "could lead to serious
    consequences", Demirel told Austrian Liberal Party member
    Dr. Hans-Gert Pottering that it was vital that Turkey was
    included in customs union agreements with the EU. Demirel
    stressed that not only would Turkey-Germany ties be
    damaged, but so would ties with the EU as a whole.

    Noting that "Turkey was not a third class country, but
    a bridge to Central Asia and the Middle East", Pottering
    added that nevertheless there were areas that Turkey
    still had to work on. /Hurriyet/


    Following initiatives from Turkey, the US has changed
    certain aspects of its "Bosnia Plan" in favour of the
    moslems. Washington and Turkey see eye-to-eye on a
    number of important issues in connection with Bosnia,
    and the US has now made a gesture in this regard
    by saying that certain areas now in the hands of the
    Bosnians will not now have to be returned to the Serbs.


    Turkey said yesterday that it would not comment on the crisis
    which erupted in Iraq last week as one of President Saddam
    Huseyin's closest aides defected to Jordan. Lt.Gen.Huseyin
    Kamel Hassan and his brother Saddam Kamel Hassan, both married
    to the Iraqi president's daughters, fled Iraq earlier this month,
    seeking political asylum in Jordan. "This is an internal affair
    of Iraq" Foreign Ministry Deputy Spokesman Nurettin Nurkan told
    journalists in a weekly press briefing. "The Iraqi people will
    decide on the future of the current regime and at this point
    Turkey can't comment on an internal affair of Iraq" he said.


    Turkey said yesterday that it was satisfied with an accord
    reached by two rival Iraqi Kurdish groups at a meeting in
    Ireland last week, held in an effort to put an end to fighting
    in northern Iraq. "The accord meets two Turkish requirements,
    that Iraq's territorial integrity be respected and that
    Turkey's security concerns be taken into account" Foreign
    Ministry Deputy Spokesman Nurettin Nurkan told a weekly
    press briefing. The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the
    Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) reached a preliminary
    reconciliation accord at the meeting, also attended by a Turkish
    official. "The point is that we want to prevent a void that the
    PKK could exploit" Nurkan said. /Cumhuriyet/

    Reprinted for educational purposes only.

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    OT: Oh, those dear Friends of ours...the Saudis... and their strange

    Patty, quoting from the Turkish Press Review:<< Nearly 40 Turkish nationals,
    convicted on or charged with drug
    offenses, are facing possible execution in Saudi prisons. Saudi
    Ambassador in Ankara, Naci al-Mufti said his country would
    continue to carry out executions in accordance with Islamic
    law despite protests from Turkey about the beheading of four
    Turks.... >>

    Two months or so ago I saw a little blurb in my local paper about the Saudi's
    having beheaded without trial four thieves caught in the act and stating that
    the punishment was in accordance with Islamic law. The fact that beheadings are
    a common punishment in Saudi Arabia certainly does not excuse the conduct of
    the insurgents in Iraq, but does, I think, go a long way toward explaining it.
    While beheading is a barbarian practice, it is not one invented by these
    insurgents. Hauling around a little electric chair would be cumbersome, you
    know, and they probably often do not even have access to electricity.

    Thanks for sharing this.



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