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    <<<''In most towns -- if not all towns -- these resolutions
    have passed with very little debate," said Adam Pertman,>>>

    Pertman and the facts are never in the same time zone. Virtually all of the
    towns had either his report, or were presented the BN side of things by
    advocates against the laws and petition. Virtually 100% favorable votes for
    them in 15 towns, and 4 cities were the truthful results.
    Funny thing, Adam never showed his face in a single community but he KNOWS all
    about the debates???
    The City of Marlborough debated this for almost one year before a unanimous
    city council vote, and they heard from Adam's supporter on Beacon Hill in the
    Legislative Children's Caucus, their own state rep giving them his side of
    things in full.
    Pertman is just tempting a full backlash against him and any supporters he has
    left.
    We have 45 states with 97% of the country's population. 19 cities and towns in
    MA with 1 million residents. Thousands of ballot question petition signatures
    to place it on the ballot in a dozen more communities as a "safe bet" that
    things will get done here.
    Adam's got some of the town meeting members of Arlingtonm, and the Governor of
    Hawaii. Hmmmmmm????
    The rest of the country should really base their public policy laws and
    opinions on just those two things????
    Pertman calls that a "safe bet" against. Again, nice try!
    Keep up the great work helping our side even more every day!
    Jean

  • #2
    NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet


    "BabySafeHaven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <<<''In most towns -- if not all towns -- these resolutions have passed with very little debate," said Adam Pertman,>>> Pertman and the facts are never in the same time zone.
    Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for your source on your "fact" that the
    rate of child abandonment hasn't changed in 3000 years. Or your
    "fact:" that Prof. Joan Hollinger is a leader of the pro-abortion movement.
    Or your "fact" that Dr. Moore was threatened with termination. Or your
    "fact" that Massachusetts Families for Kids is the Massachusetts chapter of
    ******* Nation. Or your "fact"
    that I authored the EBD report--a "fact" you continue to flog as witnessed
    by
    your remarks at the Arlington TM-- when I don't work for EBD, have no ties
    to EBD, did not write the report, and am *in fact* critical of it. Your
    lame attempts to link BN with the EBD or Adam Pertman are so totally
    bizarre and easy to refute that, I don't know why you continue to flog this
    horse, outside of the your tailgunner propensity for character assassination
    and smear tactics over substantive policy debate. Anyone even slightly
    familiar with the world of contemporary American adoption knows this is pure
    fantasy on your part, though I'm not sure who you're trying to discredit, us
    or them.

    Virtually all of the
    towns had either his report, or were presented the BN side of things by advocates against the laws and petition.
    You say this, but I've seen no proof. And I would sincerely question any
    presentation you would give on ******* Nation (or any other opposition) SH
    policy, especially given your habit of spin and stretch.

    I have no idea what happened in Arlington and who was involved , other than
    what I've read on Live from Arlington.com and seen on the tape of the TM
    which
    the Arlington Studio was kind enough to dup for me. Obviously, though,
    somebody got a bug up their nose about SH and, not to be crude, picked it
    raw.

    The people in Arlington have been described as feisty, and they certainly
    were that night. Much to my surprise, I saw none of your troops to the
    rescue. There was ample opportunity for your supporters to speak. Either
    they chose not to or weren't in attendance. Your subsequent haranguing and
    name calling on Live from Arlington.com was nothing short of poor
    sportsmanship and an outburst unworthy of political professionals. But then,
    that's the age we live in where neocons and fundamentalists of all stripes
    degrade, insult, humiliate, and dictate to the rest of us since they are on
    a
    mission from God and we'd all better get out of their way You obviously
    don't do nuance.

    I understand that transcripts of the Live from Arlington.com "dialogue"
    have made the rounds on Beacon Hill. If SH passes it will not be because of
    you, but in spite of you.

    Anybody interested in this lovely discoure can find it at
    http://www.livefromarlington.com/art...02101#comments

    Virtually 100% favorable votes for
    them in 15 towns, and 4 cities were the truthful results. Funny thing, Adam never showed his face in a single community but he KNOWS
    all
    about the debates???
    Take it up with Adam. How should I know? I certainly haven't been there.
    The City of Marlborough debated this for almost one year before a
    unanimous
    city council vote, and they heard from Adam's supporter on Beacon Hill in
    the
    Legislative Children's Caucus, their own state rep giving them his side of things in full. Pertman is just tempting a full backlash against him and any supporters he
    has
    left.
    And what kind of backlash would that be? The Morrisesy Political Machine
    that's going to kick Kay Kahn out of office?

    We have 45 states with 97% of the country's population. 19 cities and
    towns in
    MA with 1 million residents. Thousands of ballot question petition
    signatures
    to place it on the ballot in a dozen more communities as a "safe bet" that
    things will get done here.
    Good luck! Been there, done that in Oregon. Do read the book about it:
    Adoption Politics: Ballot Initiative 58 and ******* Nation by E. Wayne
    Carp, University Press of Kansas, 2004 available through Amazon, B&N and
    other fine bookstores. Who will finance it btw, or are you independently
    wealthy now? You do know that signature gathering is a cash business, dont'
    you?

    Adam's got some of the town meeting members of Arlingtonm, and the
    Governor of
    Hawaii. Hmmmmmm????
    And you don't. The way you carried on over on Live from Arlington.com
    you'd have
    thought SH opponents had hijacked the meeting and duct taped WMD to their
    chests..
    The rest of the country should really base their public policy laws and opinions on just those two things???? Pertman calls that a "safe bet" against. Again, nice try! Keep up the great work helping our side even more every day! Jean
    Well, you're not doing a very good job of it.

    BTW, what's with the fetus on your new homepage? www.babysafehavenyes.org I
    thought SH wasn't about abortion. And I'm worried about the poor thing.
    It's right-side up in a
    breech birth position.

    Marley





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    • #3
      NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet


      "BabySafeHaven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
      news:[email protected]
      <<<''In most towns -- if not all towns -- these resolutions have passed with very little debate," said Adam Pertman,>>> Pertman and the facts are never in the same time zone.
      Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for your source on your "fact" that the
      rate of child abandonment hasn't changed in 3000 years. Or your
      "fact:" that Prof. Joan Hollinger is a leader of the pro-abortion movement.
      Or your "fact" that Dr. Moore was threatened with termination. Or your
      "fact" that Massachusetts Families for Kids is the Massachusetts chapter of
      ******* Nation. Or your "fact"
      that I authored the EBD report--a "fact" you continue to flog as witnessed
      by
      your remarks at the Arlington TM-- when I don't work for EBD, have no ties
      to EBD, did not write the report, and am *in fact* critical of it. Your
      lame attempts to link BN with the EBD or Adam Pertman are so totally
      bizarre and easy to refute that, I don't know why you continue to flog this
      horse, outside of the your tailgunner propensity for character assassination
      and smear tactics over substantive policy debate. Anyone even slightly
      familiar with the world of contemporary American adoption knows this is pure
      fantasy on your part, though I'm not sure who you're trying to discredit, us
      or them.

      Virtually all of the
      towns had either his report, or were presented the BN side of things by advocates against the laws and petition.
      You say this, but I've seen no proof. And I would sincerely question any
      presentation you would give on ******* Nation (or any other opposition) SH
      policy, especially given your habit of spin and stretch.

      I have no idea what happened in Arlington and who was involved , other than
      what I've read on Live from Arlington.com and seen on the tape of the TM
      which
      the Arlington Studio was kind enough to dup for me. Obviously, though,
      somebody got a bug up their nose about SH and, not to be crude, picked it
      raw.

      The people in Arlington have been described as feisty, and they certainly
      were that night. Much to my surprise, I saw none of your troops to the
      rescue. There was ample opportunity for your supporters to speak. Either
      they chose not to or weren't in attendance. Your subsequent haranguing and
      name calling on Live from Arlington.com was nothing short of poor
      sportsmanship and an outburst unworthy of political professionals. But then,
      that's the age we live in where neocons and fundamentalists of all stripes
      degrade, insult, humiliate, and dictate to the rest of us since they are on
      a
      mission from God and we'd all better get out of their way You obviously
      don't do nuance.

      I understand that transcripts of the Live from Arlington.com "dialogue"
      have made the rounds on Beacon Hill. If SH passes it will not be because of
      you, but in spite of you.

      Anybody interested in this lovely discoure can find it at
      http://www.livefromarlington.com/art...02101#comments

      Virtually 100% favorable votes for
      them in 15 towns, and 4 cities were the truthful results. Funny thing, Adam never showed his face in a single community but he KNOWS
      all
      about the debates???
      Take it up with Adam. How should I know? I certainly haven't been there.
      The City of Marlborough debated this for almost one year before a
      unanimous
      city council vote, and they heard from Adam's supporter on Beacon Hill in
      the
      Legislative Children's Caucus, their own state rep giving them his side of things in full. Pertman is just tempting a full backlash against him and any supporters he
      has
      left.
      And what kind of backlash would that be? The Morrisesy Political Machine
      that's going to kick Kay Kahn out of office?

      We have 45 states with 97% of the country's population. 19 cities and
      towns in
      MA with 1 million residents. Thousands of ballot question petition
      signatures
      to place it on the ballot in a dozen more communities as a "safe bet" that
      things will get done here.
      Good luck! Been there, done that in Oregon. Do read the book about it:
      Adoption Politics: Ballot Initiative 58 and ******* Nation by E. Wayne
      Carp, University Press of Kansas, 2004 available through Amazon, B&N and
      other fine bookstores. Who will finance it btw, or are you independently
      wealthy now? You do know that signature gathering is a cash business, dont'
      you?

      Adam's got some of the town meeting members of Arlingtonm, and the
      Governor of
      Hawaii. Hmmmmmm????
      And you don't. The way you carried on over on Live from Arlington.com
      you'd have
      thought SH opponents had hijacked the meeting and duct taped WMD to their
      chests..
      The rest of the country should really base their public policy laws and opinions on just those two things???? Pertman calls that a "safe bet" against. Again, nice try! Keep up the great work helping our side even more every day! Jean
      Well, you're not doing a very good job of it.

      BTW, what's with the fetus on your new homepage? www.babysafehavenyes.org I
      thought SH wasn't about abortion. And I'm worried about the poor thing.
      It's right-side up in a
      breech birth position.

      Marley





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      • #4
        NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

        >Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet
        From: "Marley Greiner" [email protected]Date: 7/1/2004 11:15 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]>
        And you don't. The way you carried on over on Live from Arlington.comyou'd havethought SH opponents had hijacked the meeting and duct taped WMD to theirchests..
        And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!


        -------------------------
        A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
        be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
        -----Unknown

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        • #5
          NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

          >Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet
          From: "Marley Greiner" [email protected]Date: 7/1/2004 11:15 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]>
          And you don't. The way you carried on over on Live from Arlington.comyou'd havethought SH opponents had hijacked the meeting and duct taped WMD to theirchests..
          And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!


          -------------------------
          A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
          be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
          -----Unknown

          Comment


          • #6
            NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

            <<<And what kind of backlash would that be? The Morrisesy Political Machine
            that's going to kick Kay Kahn out of office?>>>

            <<Well, you're not doing a very good job of it.>>

            << I saw none of your troops to the
            rescue.>>>>

            It'll be on the wires in a few hours. The Massachusetts Senate today voted
            unanimously to pass the Baby Safe Haven bill, soon to move to the Governor's
            desk.
            Guess our troops came out at the right time, before another "Undefendable
            Consequence" gets reported to the press, as what happened in Martha's Vineyard,
            due to the false statements and disinformation campaigns of EBD and BN.
            Many more advocates are still out today (including Arlington TMMs), and through
            the holiday weekend, collecting signatures to assure a November ballot question
            due to the opposition of the BN state rep supporters such as the one you
            mentioned.
            Her opponent will be gathering signatures at a 4th of July celebration in her
            city.
            Another supporter is having a feature published tomorrow about her signature
            campaign. A 70 year old Grandmom who is opposing Rep Teahan's anti-Baby Safe
            Haven stance.
            BTW, the pic on the site is one of the templates by the web service, and a baby
            just born has it umbilical and placenta still attached, so at least we're
            realistic in our depiction. We have requested a better picture for their
            templates.
            Keep up the great work as you're just adding to our supporters, with
            disinformation your campaign.
            Jean

            Comment


            • #7
              NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

              <<<And what kind of backlash would that be? The Morrisesy Political Machine
              that's going to kick Kay Kahn out of office?>>>

              <<Well, you're not doing a very good job of it.>>

              << I saw none of your troops to the
              rescue.>>>>

              It'll be on the wires in a few hours. The Massachusetts Senate today voted
              unanimously to pass the Baby Safe Haven bill, soon to move to the Governor's
              desk.
              Guess our troops came out at the right time, before another "Undefendable
              Consequence" gets reported to the press, as what happened in Martha's Vineyard,
              due to the false statements and disinformation campaigns of EBD and BN.
              Many more advocates are still out today (including Arlington TMMs), and through
              the holiday weekend, collecting signatures to assure a November ballot question
              due to the opposition of the BN state rep supporters such as the one you
              mentioned.
              Her opponent will be gathering signatures at a 4th of July celebration in her
              city.
              Another supporter is having a feature published tomorrow about her signature
              campaign. A 70 year old Grandmom who is opposing Rep Teahan's anti-Baby Safe
              Haven stance.
              BTW, the pic on the site is one of the templates by the web service, and a baby
              just born has it umbilical and placenta still attached, so at least we're
              realistic in our depiction. We have requested a better picture for their
              templates.
              Keep up the great work as you're just adding to our supporters, with
              disinformation your campaign.
              Jean

              Comment


              • #8
                NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

                <<<<And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!>>>

                Do you think anybody in the world gives a rat's pancreas about what you're
                talking about here???? Another fictional character??
                Pretty soon you'll be fighting to stop Alaska, Hawaii, Nebraska and Vermont
                from passing Baby Safe Haven laws. Maybe your next convention and rally should
                be in Juneau, in the winter...outdoors.
                We'll be getting VT to pass ASAP, so good luck there.
                So as you play with fictional characters, spoofs and name games we'll be
                bringing on the facts and getting things done.
                Have a Happy 4th of July!
                ~ Jean

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                • #9
                  NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet

                  >Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haen law is no longer a safe bet
                  From: [email protected] (BabySafeHaven)Date: 7/1/2004 4:39 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]><<<<And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!>>>Do you think anybody in the world gives a rat's pancreas about what you'retalking about here????
                  I think you forget where you are. Few give a rat's *** about YOU and your
                  blatherings. Maybe 99%, to use an oft quoted statistic.

                  You made an *** out of yourself at that town forum, and then tried to claim
                  that Ron was a poster called Colonal Mustard to deflect it. You posted a
                  <snerk> link. Idiot.


                  -------------------------
                  A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
                  be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
                  -----Unknown

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                  • #10
                    NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet

                    <<<<<<And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!>>>
                    Do you think anybody in the world gives a rat's pancreas about what you'retalking about here????
                    I think you forget where you are. Few give a rat's *** about YOU and your
                    blatherings. Maybe 99%, to use an oft quoted statistic.

                    You made an *** out of yourself at that town forum, and then tried to claim
                    that Ron was a poster called Colonal Mustard to deflect it. You posted a
                    <snerk> link. Idiot>>>>

                    Are you folks for real? The Massachusetts senate passed the Baby Safe Haven
                    bill UNANIMOUSLY today. They didn't want to look like out of control town
                    meeting members, like the ones in the town that listened to the disinformation
                    specialists.
                    Today in the MA senate it was CYA at its best, and then some.
                    The legislature, and that TM, is doing everything in its power to keep Baby
                    Safe Havens from going on the ballot this fall. It's also headed into 100 more
                    city councils and town meetings, and with even more truth coming out against
                    your false claims.
                    As for Pvt. Mustard, or whomever he/she/it is, his "seeds" are only those of
                    distention without facts behind him/her/it.
                    We'll await your next "spoof" as that's all you seem to be good at.
                    Keep up the good work.
                    ~ Jean

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet

                      >Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet
                      From: [email protected] (BabySafeHaven)Date: 7/1/2004 6:27 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]><<<<<<And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!>>>
                      Do you think anybody in the world gives a rat's pancreas about what you'retalking about here????
                      I think you forget where you are. Few give a rat's *** about YOU and yourblatherings. Maybe 99%, to use an oft quoted statistic.You made an *** out of yourself at that town forum, and then tried to claimthat Ron was a poster called Colonal Mustard to deflect it. You posted a<snerk> link. Idiot>>>>Are you folks for real? The Massachusetts senate passed the Baby Safe Havenbill UNANIMOUSLY today.
                      So what? This ng is an international adoption ng.

                      We all know that you stalked Marley here, and have little or nothing relevant
                      to say about adoption. You posts sites that show idiots pimping out their
                      dead, red fetuses with their "it's a boy!" cards, as if it has something to do
                      with adoption. Big clue: It's doesn't.

                      You don't participate in relevant threads, your only purpose here is to stalk
                      Marley. You "jumped the shark" before your first post.

                      You didn't like a response she made to you here in the ng, so you filed police
                      charges against her (apparently a common tactic you use towards people who
                      disagree with you). While investigating, the police told you both not to
                      engage each other. She complied, and you repeatedly tried to goad her into any
                      kind of response you could get in the ng or in email. You failed.

                      Frankly, your obsession with Marley has made you a joke. You post here
                      repeatedly simply to get her attention. It's obvious.

                      Why don't you get a blow-up doll, write Marley's name on the forehead with a
                      sharpie, get a hotel room, and you can sit on it's face, Mike can attempt to
                      boink it up the butt, and you can finally achieve the satisfaction you want
                      without boring the rest of the ng with the constant irrelevant posts that you
                      seem to consider foreplay in your attempt to conquer our Marls.

                      Have a nice 4th. God bless you.



                      Mike and Jean beat Colonal Mustard to death on the veranda with a dead red
                      fetus. Then took pictures and posted them on the net.


                      -------------------------
                      A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
                      be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
                      -----Unknown

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                      • #12
                        NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet

                        LilMtnCbn wrote in message <[email protected]>...
                        Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe betFrom: [email protected] (BabySafeHaven)Date: 7/1/2004 6:27 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]><<<<<<And Ron is Colonal Mustard! Bwaaaaa!! What a couple of idiots!>>>
                        Do you think anybody in the world gives a rat's pancreas about what
                        you're
                        talking about here????I think you forget where you are. Few give a rat's *** about YOU and yourblatherings. Maybe 99%, to use an oft quoted statistic.You made an *** out of yourself at that town forum, and then tried to
                        claim
                        that Ron was a poster called Colonal Mustard to deflect it. You posted a<snerk> link. Idiot>>>>Are you folks for real? The Massachusetts senate passed the Baby Safe
                        Haven
                        bill UNANIMOUSLY today.So what? This ng is an international adoption ng.We all know that you stalked Marley here, and have little or nothing
                        relevant
                        to say about adoption. You posts sites that show idiots pimping out theirdead, red fetuses with their "it's a boy!" cards, as if it has something to
                        do
                        with adoption. Big clue: It's doesn't.You don't participate in relevant threads, your only purpose here is to
                        stalk
                        Marley. You "jumped the shark" before your first post.You didn't like a response she made to you here in the ng, so you filed
                        police
                        charges against her (apparently a common tactic you use towards people whodisagree with you). While investigating, the police told you both not toengage each other. She complied, and you repeatedly tried to goad her into
                        any
                        kind of response you could get in the ng or in email. You failed.Frankly, your obsession with Marley has made you a joke. You post hererepeatedly simply to get her attention. It's obvious.Why don't you get a blow-up doll, write Marley's name on the forehead with
                        a
                        sharpie, get a hotel room, and you can sit on it's face, Mike can attempt
                        to
                        boink it up the butt, and you can finally achieve the satisfaction you wantwithout boring the rest of the ng with the constant irrelevant posts that
                        you
                        seem to consider foreplay in your attempt to conquer our Marls.
                        YOU GO GIRL! These people are a joke and needed a good telling off. Thanks
                        for not letting us down!
                        Have a nice 4th. God bless you.Mike and Jean beat Colonal Mustard to death on the veranda with a dead redfetus. Then took pictures and posted them on the net.
                        I actually wouldn't put it past them to be the ones abandonding babies to be
                        found to support their ludicrous(? sp) campaign. Maroons....simply Maroons.

                        KL
                        -------------------------A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
                        will
                        be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"-----Unknown



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                        • #13
                          NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet


                          "BabySafeHaven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                          news:[email protected]
                          Today in the MA senate it was CYA at its best, and then some. The legislature, and that TM, is doing everything in its power to keep
                          Baby
                          Safe Havens from going on the ballot this fall. It's also headed into 100
                          more
                          city councils and town meetings, and with even more truth coming out
                          against
                          your false claims.
                          What exactly happened today? If the MA Senate passed a Safe Haven law, then
                          why is the issue headed to the ballot or more town councils?
                          As for Pvt. Mustard, or whomever he/she/it is, his "seeds" are only those
                          of
                          distention without facts behind him/her/it.
                          Whatever. The truth is that you tried to slander me on the Arlington Town
                          Meeting board by claiming I was writing anonymous scatalogical spoofs about
                          you. I post under my own name, I don't need to hide behind a pseudonym to
                          call you tragedy pimps and snakeoil salesmen. You spin lies and innuendo
                          thicker than flies on **** about anyone with the good sense to question your
                          agenda, and then try to keep a straight face as you describe how even-handed
                          your presentations are.
                          We'll await your next "spoof" as that's all you seem to be good at. Keep up the good work.
                          You too. Your performance at Arlington and its aftermath exposed you for the
                          pathetic little creeps you really are.

                          Ron
                          ~ Jean

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                          • #14
                            NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet

                            >Subject: Re: NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet
                            From: [email protected] (BabySafeHaven)Date: 7/1/2004 6:27 PM Mountain Standard Time
                            As for Pvt. Mustard, or whomever he/she/it is, his "seeds" are only those ofdistention without facts behind him/her/it.
                            Oooh. "Seeds" and "distention". Wonder what Freud would say about that usage?
                            We'll await your next "spoof" as that's all you seem to be good at.Keep up the good work.~ Jean
                            Well, I'm not Ron, and as he's the one you've publically accused of being
                            *Colonal Mustard*, I just have to wonder. Are you smoking crack? Or just
                            jonesing to get a ripe whiff of one?


                            -------------------------
                            A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
                            be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
                            -----Unknown

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                            • #15
                              NEWS: Approval of infant haven law is no longer a safe bet


                              "Ron Morgan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                              news[email protected] ...
                              "BabySafeHaven" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
                              Today in the MA senate it was CYA at its best, and then some. The legislature, and that TM, is doing everything in its power to keep
                              Baby
                              Safe Havens from going on the ballot this fall. It's also headed into
                              100
                              more
                              city councils and town meetings, and with even more truth coming out
                              against
                              your false claims.
                              What exactly happened today? If the MA Senate passed a Safe Haven law,
                              then
                              why is the issue headed to the ballot or more town councils?
                              I guess it's like using The Pill and a condom together--just to be safe.
                              I'd sure like to know what our false claims are, too. As adoptees, truth is
                              our best weapon as well as our goal.

                              Marley

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