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    >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
    From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]>
    Adoption is not just about the bmom butit sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
    Then you should have had an abortion.


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    A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
    be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
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    Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill


    "LilMtnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
    | >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]
    | >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time
    | >Message-id: <[email protected]>
    |
    | >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
    | >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
    |
    | Then you should have had an abortion.
    |

    Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
    different needs and concerns? That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
    (generally) more than one person..should perspective parents abort too in
    order to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife but
    even if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer to
    every pregnancy that involved more than one person.
    --
    BaD *** Me
    **My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**



    |
    | -------------------------
    | A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
    will
    | be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
    | -----Unknown


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    • #3
      Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill

      >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
      From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]>"LilM tnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill| >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time| >Message-id: <[email protected]>|| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.|| Then you should have had an abortion.|Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals withdifferent needs and concerns?
      IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
      That seems silly to me. Parenting involves(generally) more than one person..
      And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal to the
      needs of the child they create.
      .should perspective parents abort too inorder to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife buteven if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer toevery pregnancy that involved more than one person.
      Well, you've already stated that you feel like the fathers' needs are
      irrelevant. So exactly what "other" people are involved?

      --BaD *** Me**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**



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      A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
      be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
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      • #4
        Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill


        "LilMtnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
        news:[email protected]
        | >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
        | >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]
        | >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time
        | >Message-id: <[email protected]>
        | >
        | >
        | >"LilMtnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
        | >news:[email protected]
        | >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
        | >| >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]
        | >| >Date: 11/26/2004 8:10 PM Mountain Standard Time
        | >| >Message-id: <[email protected]>
        | >|
        | >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
        | >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
        | >|
        | >| Then you should have had an abortion.
        | >|
        | >
        | >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
        | >different needs and concerns?
        |
        | IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
        |
        So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother chooses
        adoption????


        | >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
        | >(generally) more than one person..
        |
        | And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal to
        the
        | needs of the child they create.
        |
        A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pure
        amusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.

        | >.should perspective parents abort too in
        | >order to avoid any unwanted conflict that may arise? I admit im prolife
        but
        | >even if i werent i dont think that id feel like abortion was the answer
        to
        | >every pregnancy that involved more than one person.
        |
        | Well, you've already stated that you feel like the fathers' needs are
        | irrelevant. So exactly what "other" people are involved?
        |
        |
        Hey, I have said that dads should be forced to be dads if they wont do it.
        It is sad that there are so many men willing to step back and let the
        responsibiliies fall to the mother.


        | >--
        | >BaD *** Me
        | >**My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**
        |
        |
        |
        |
        | -------------------------
        | A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
        will
        | be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
        | -----Unknown


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        • #5
          Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill

          >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
          From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]Date: 11/26/2004 11:49 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <[email protected]>"LilMtn Cbn" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill| >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]| >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time

          Top posting:

          No offense, but is there any way you can clean up the annoying crap in your
          posts? It's really hard to read. I know it might be your newsreader, but I'm
          with Patty. It's a pain in the *** to read/respond to. My response follows:

          | >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but| >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.| >|

          | >| Then you should have had an abortion.| >|| >

          | >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with| >different needs and concerns?

          || IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.

          |So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother choosesadoption????
          That's kind of stupid, isn't it? If a mother doesn't feel like she can parent,
          then the best interest isn't adoption? Please.
          | >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves| >(generally) more than one person..

          || And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal tothe| needs of the child they create.

          |A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pureamusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.
          I would hope so. But really, honestly, from your posts, as an adoptee, it
          seems like you feel some need to lord it over your relative who had an
          abortion, when given your opinion on the future needs of the child you created,
          it might have been kinder if you had done the same.

          I'm not trying to be a *****, I'm trying to understand where exactly it is
          you're coming from.

          And most of all, I need to ask you this:

          If you are so at peace with your decision, why are you seeking
          newsgroups/message boards that are kind to birthmothers? Why should you care?

          Why try to seek validation for your choice?

          I'm not saying you shouldn't post, or don't have the right to post, but
          really...REALLY...why aren't you OVER it?


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          A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
          be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
          -----Unknown

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          • #6
            Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill


            "LilMtnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
            news:[email protected]
            | >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
            | >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]
            | >Date: 11/26/2004 11:49 PM Mountain Standard Time
            | >Message-id: <[email protected]>
            | >
            | >
            | >"LilMtnCbn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
            | >news:[email protected]
            | >| >Subject: Re: Marilyn Churley's Adoption Bill
            | >| >From: "BaD *** Me" [email protected]
            | >| >Date: 11/26/2004 9:19 PM Mountain Standard Time
            |
            |
            | Top posting:
            |
            | No offense, but is there any way you can clean up the annoying crap in
            your
            | posts? It's really hard to read. I know it might be your newsreader, but
            I'm
            | with Patty. It's a pain in the *** to read/respond to. My response
            follows:
            |
            |
            | >| >| >Adoption is not just about the bmom but
            | >| >| >it sure just aint about the baby/adult adoptee either.
            | >| >|
            |
            |
            | >| >| Then you should have had an abortion.
            | >| >|
            | >| >
            |
            |
            | >| >Why? just because adoption involves a whole group of individuals with
            | >| >different needs and concerns?
            |
            |
            | >|
            | >| IMO, adoption should be about the child's needs first and foremost.
            |
            |
            | >|
            | >So if parenting is in the best interest of the child but the mother
            chooses
            | >adoption????
            |
            | That's kind of stupid, isn't it? If a mother doesn't feel like she can
            parent,
            | then the best interest isn't adoption? Please.
            |
            How do you know she didnt choose adoption out of fear of not being a good
            parent or from pressure from parents. Maybe the said adopt out or go
            homeless and she unaware of other alternatives in regards to her housing
            situation. Mothers do sometimes choose adoption (and may or may not follow
            through) for other reasons than the benefit of the baby.


            | >| >That seems silly to me. Parenting involves
            | >| >(generally) more than one person..
            |
            |
            | >|
            | >| And the adults involved should recognize that their needs aren't equal
            to
            | >the
            | >| needs of the child they create.
            |
            |
            | >|
            | >A mother who chooses adoption is generally not doing so out of pure
            | >amusement with the situaiton but for the benefit of the child.
            |
            | I would hope so. But really, honestly, from your posts, as an adoptee, it
            | seems like you feel some need to lord it over your relative who had an
            | abortion, when given your opinion on the future needs of the child you
            created,
            | it might have been kinder if you had done the same.
            |
            Oh no. I surely do not mean to sound that way about my sis. She did what
            she thought best and only did what she did with the best intentions. I may
            think she did the wrong thing or not like what she did but that doestn mean
            I dont like her or think she is wrong.


            | I'm not trying to be a *****, I'm trying to understand where exactly it is
            | you're coming from.
            |
            | And most of all, I need to ask you this:
            |
            | If you are so at peace with your decision, why are you seeking
            | newsgroups/message boards that are kind to birthmothers? Why should you
            care?
            |
            Hell, I dont care if your kind or not.. I really dont loose sleep over it.
            I came to the group because I like to talk about adoption.. private,
            attorney handled, agency, within the family, out of country...There are so
            many different stories and different experiences. Being proadoption I like
            to talk about it. If I were worried about niceness I be gone already.

            | Why try to seek validation for your choice?
            |
            | I'm not saying you shouldn't post, or don't have the right to post, but
            | really...REALLY...why aren't you OVER it?
            |
            |
            There was nothing to get over. **** I didnt have the flu, I had a child. Of
            course she is still a part of my life. I didnt erase her when I signed the
            papers. Why do adult adoptees talk about their situation? Why do adoptive
            parents talk? I just went through and put in differnt topics that
            interested me and adoption was one.
            --
            BaD *** Me
            **My opinions might have changed but not the fact that I am right!**




            | >
            | >
            |
            |
            | -------------------------
            | A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend
            will
            | be sitting next to you saying, "**** . . . that was fun!"
            | -----Unknown


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