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    A "mandatory" training meeting was held at the office on a day that the office is normally closed (tuesday) The meeting was a training session on a new medical procedure. It lasted 4 hours. 9 am till 1 pm. The office notified us today (the meeting was last week) that no one would be paid for the training. We are all paid hourly. They pulled out the company manual and it states, "seminars held on normal days off are not paid." However this was not a seminar in the traditional sense. It was training held at the office by office management. Is there a specific law or regulation that speaks to this issue? Is it even legal to not pay for time spent at a seminar if the office calls it mandatory - meaning if you don't go you could be diciplined?

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    The "law" on this issue are the following two federal DOL regulations. Based on what you have said, the training is legally time that must be paid.

    29 CFR 785.27 - General.
    Attendance at lectures, meetings, training programs and similar activities need not be counted as working time if the following four criteria are met:
    (a) Attendance is outside of the employee's regular working hours;
    (b) Attendance is in fact voluntary;
    (c) The course, lecture, or meeting is not directly related to the employee's job; and
    (d) The employee does not perform any productive work during such attendance.

    29 CFR 785.28 - Involuntary attendance.
    Attendance is not voluntary, of course, if it is required by the employer. It is not voluntary in fact if the employee is given to understand or led to believe that his present working conditions or the continuance of his employment would be adversely affected by nonattendance.
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      Here are the federal regulations re getting paid for mandatory meetings - non-exempt employees.

      http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/ESA/Ti...9CFR785.27.htm

      Sorry, DAW, your reply wasn't there went I went to post a reply.
      Last edited by Betty3; 01-28-2008, 09:14 PM. Reason: add info
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