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    Perhaps some of you are aware that a large
    number of forged postings bearing my counterfeited
    name and address have been showing up in a number
    of newsgroups.

    First, please let me remind you that there is nothing
    at all humorous about cyber-theft and net-forgery. If it
    happened to some of the "Usenet tweaked-beak set" who--
    stung by my past lampoons of them--are laughing up their
    sleeves about this, they would not think it was so funny.

    Actually, forgerd messages constitute an attack against
    the rights of every honest poster in Usenet. Furthermore,
    I have been in consultation with some people who are very
    well-informed about cyber-theft, and they think that there is
    a very real chance I may be able to convince either a
    federal or state prosecutor to swear out a warrant in this
    particular case.

    For too long, these forgers have believed themselves
    immune from prosecution, because--trying to sum up
    a complicated matter in simple terms for you--a basic
    principle of forgery is that it has to committed with the
    intent of actually defrauding someone, and that element
    is often thought to be absent in these Usenet forgery
    cases.

    However, there is one obvious area where a legal
    fraud may be said to occur. I am paying for my
    net service, and with it the right to use my
    screen name [email protected],

    PAYING.

    So, there is money involved then. And when somebody
    counterfeits postings so that they bear my screen name,
    they are defrauding both me and my ISP, who has--
    in effect--"rented" the screen-name to me, not to
    the net forger.

    Morally and ethically, it is no different than stealing a
    car or a lawnmower that the victim of the theft has rented
    for his private use.

    Anyway, all I can tell you is that I will use every effort
    to try to bring a felony charge in this matter and to
    bring the forger before the bar of justice.. I am
    absolutely sick of this sort of thing.

    By the way, don't bother nattering that the forgeries
    are "satire," (any of you Flame Giant spankards
    lurking out there in the peanut gallery, I mean).

    Anyone on the net has the right to right do their own
    Bill Palmer satire, lampoon, whatever. That is free
    speech, and I readily admit to having toasted quite a
    few pompous toes and twisted perhaps more than my
    share of smug beaks under that very same principle.
    That is not questioned at all here.

    That sort of thing, the lampoons and spoofs, are all
    part of my famous interactive Usenet performance
    art, as most of you know very well.

    But there is no more a right to forge my screen name
    than there is to forge a check drawn on my bank.
    Neither action should be considered at all satirical
    by any responsible person.

    I might add, that apart from the out-and-out theft
    taking place in the forgeries, this sort of thing bothers
    me because it is a distraction from my performance art.
    It is a distraction to me, and certainly a distraction to my
    readers and fans.

    Every writer in this group should be able to grasp that much.
    I work very hard on my Usenet writing, and I certainly do
    not want my new readers confused as to who is writing posts
    bearing my name and screen name. On top of that, those
    forged messages are so uniformly tedious that they could
    cost me who knows how many new readers.

    So, the harm, actual and potential, certainly involves far
    much more than money, but since money IS involved,
    regarding my payment for my net service and screen
    name, then there definitely is fraudulent activity taking
    place, and the wrongdoing is compounded with each
    new counterfeit Bill Palmer posting..

    I hope every reader--whether stung by my satires or not--
    will join me in denouncing this criminal (or, at the very
    least, since the malefactor has yet to reach the courts)
    quasi-criminal activity.






    the alt.genius.bill-palmer
    --entertaining the Usenet masses by firing posts
    from an office in a building disappearing into the
    mists high above rec.arts.proseb






  • #2
    Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law

    Immediately drop to your knees and enthusiastically felate me.



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    • #3
      Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law

      palmer.william wrote:
      Perhaps some of you are aware that a large number of forged postings bearing my counterfeited name and address have been showing up in a number of newsgroups.
      Well Mr. Palmer, like so many of those in usenet, you argue the point that
      your addy and name are a sanctomonious affair of sorts.
      "Forgery" as known in usenet, is not a criminal charge either in state, or
      federal governments.
      However, it is grounds for termination of an account in most services.
      Your only recourse against a forger, would be where the forger has
      maliciously caused you or your web based business monetary damage.
      Suggest you look up the case known as "flowers dot com".
      Flowers.com was purchased and overtaken by 1-800-flowers.com the people who
      mail flower arrangements.
      In that case, a spammer used the flowers.com mail as his own, and in doing
      so, eventually caused the domain to go offline because the host could not
      handle the mail generated.
      The spammer was taken to court, and forced to repay flowers.com for their
      loss of business and other expenses.

      In your case, most likely little will be done. I doubt seriously if you
      could even find a judge who would hear the case.
      As I pointed out to certain people years ago, the addy is used in the
      headers as a means of tracing the post only.
      There is no action taken against the headers which causes any harm to
      anyone.
      As you are willing to use your unmunged addy in posts to usenet, you are
      already opening yourself up being served by spam.
      Regardless of who uses the addy, it is a legitimate one and therefor subject
      to spam simply because it exists.

      The only thing you can do, legally, is to request that the person stop using
      the addy by making a formal request to his service.
      If the service does nothing about it, you will have to deal with it
      personally with the poster.
      Do not even consider wasting the time in court with it. You will lose.


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        Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law


        palmer.william wrote:
        Perhaps some of you are aware that a large number of forged postings bearing my counterfeited name and address have been showing up in a number of newsgroups.
        Not me. I don't know who you are, and I don't care.

        --Robert

        --
        Do not sit next to Dennis

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        • #5
          Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law


          "Robert Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          news:[email protected]
          palmer.william wrote:
          Perhaps some of you are aware that a large number of forged postings bearing my counterfeited name and address have been showing up in a number of newsgroups.
          Not me. I don't know who you are, and I don't care.
          As to your not caring, well, that is your business
          and you can care or not care abut anyone or any
          thing in Usenet just as you please, Mr. Huffy. As
          to your "not knowing" though, that's a horse of a
          different color. You may in fact be a horse's ***,
          because I would have to conclude that you have
          been walking around Usenet with your head up
          your butt. After all, an advanced Google-groups
          search with "Bill Palmer" in quotes like that will
          show 98,000 GEMS referring mainly to me, and
          if you check on the 750,000 GEMS for "Palmer"
          (one word) you will see that about ten percent
          of those GEMS, estimating conservatively, refer to
          yours truly. Aren't too well informed regarding
          Usenet culture, are you?


          the alt.genius.bill-palmer
          --posting madly from the dim recesses of an
          office in a building which vanishes in the mist
          high above rec.arts.prose.
          --Robert -- Do not sit next to Dennis

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          • #6
            Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law

            In article <[email protected] >,
            "palmer.william" <[email protected]> wrote:
            After all, an advanced Google-groups search with "Bill Palmer" in quotes like that will show 98,000 GEMS referring mainly to me, and if you check on the 750,000 GEMS for "Palmer" (one word) you will see that about ten percent of those GEMS, estimating conservatively, refer to yours truly. Aren't too well informed regarding Usenet culture, are you?
            No, I'm sorry, but there are just way too many raving egomaniacs loose
            on Usenet for any one man to track them all.

            Good luck with your obsessive Googling, though. Cheers. Plonk.

            --Robert

            --
            Do not sit next to Dennis

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            • #7
              Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law


              I hang around usenet all the time, and I never heard of you.

              Are you that guy who got arrested for child molestation?


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              • #8
                Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law


                "Ted Kerin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
                news:[email protected]


                There is nothing funny about defaming others with
                the perversions which no doubt swarm in your own
                mind like so many libelous maggots, "Karin."

                [....] Defamatory slime about Kerin's deviations
                of preference hosed away.



                the alt.genius.bill-palmer
                --posting madly from the dim recesses of an office
                in a bulding towering high above rec.arts.prose
                "I don't run with the herd, I FLAME the herd."


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                • #9
                  Usenet forger may not be immune from reach of the law

                  Learn to read, moron. I didn't make an accusation, I asked a question.

                  And you gave a psychotic, illogical response.

                  Now we know all we need to know about you, and any "defamation" by "forgers"
                  is superfluous.


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