ALIA Digest #3102

[Lady Di]

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. File - A Important Reminder to All
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
2. File - All Members Please Read
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
3. File - E-mail attatchments
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
4. File - How to use the registry posts
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
5. File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
6. File - SENDING MONETARY FUNDS
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
7. File - Yahoo Instructions
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
8. questions
From: "unicorn53tiger" <unicorn53tiger@yahoo.ca>
9. Re: questions
From: opalescenyx@aol.com
10. Re: Birthdaughter found by CI,(Deb/Traverse City MI)
From: deb s <dleapfrog2@yahoo.com>
11. ISO birth family - dob 02/17/1964 canoga park, ca
From: "stephanie sorbie" <stayfuny@msn.com>
12. Re: ISO birth family - dob 02/17/1964 canoga park, ca
From: pricenicky@aol.com
13. Need look-up
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
14. digest
From: mary gregg <lazymary25@yahoo.com>
15. Posting
From: "Mary Lindsey" <lindsey.mary@worldnet.att.net>
16. Re: NON ID
From: "Jim & Wanda" <jaswan@ezl.com>
17. Re: Need look-up
From: pricenicky@aol.com
18. RE: Need look-up
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
19. RE: Posting
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
20. 1979/12/05 Usa OH Zanesville F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
From: registryaide@aol.com
21. ????/??/?? Usa OH Columbus M ...Hearts Of Adoption Reunion
Registry
From: registryaide@aol.com
22. 1976/07/24 Usa FL Daytona Be M ...Given Right
From: registryaide@aol.com
23. Re: Look-up Thanks to all I now have Address & phone# for
Jack
W.Woodring
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
24. Help Please !!!
From: "Carrie M.Breeding" <carriebreeding@yahoo.com>
25. Re: Need look-up
From: "marge fortney" <teewee1949@msn.com>


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Message: 1
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:36 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - A Important Reminder to All


Please as you are searchng on the group, DO NOT post anything such as
Driver`s License Number`s, Private Home Phone Numbers, Home Addresses,

SNN`s, etc directly on the group.There are people out there that will
take this kind of info and try to use it illegally. If you should be
helping someone in their search, PLEASE send it directly to the person
via
their private email addy. This is to protect you against invasion of
privacy law suits or any other legality.

Thank You
Owner and Moderators


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Message: 2
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:38 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - All Members Please Read


Dear List Members:
I need to ask each and every member here who is working privately with

a search angel to PLEASE keep correspondence privately between you and

that specific search angel regarding: Phone call, addresses, possible

names, etc..., This is not only for the list's protection but for
your
protection as well, as I understand that private information must be
keep just that - PRIVATE. My understanding is that laws are changing
and
with the internet now, everything is much more open and "out there."
I
would hate to see a search angel lose access to a paid database or
someone (or this list) get threatened with an invasion of privacy
lawsuit.
(Yes, it is happening more and more these days.) Think of it this way

- if you were not searching, would you like for your own
name/address/phone number/house value, etc.., to be posted in a public
forum for many
to see? It has happened on other lists and searchers and search angels

have lost access to databases and threatened with lawsuits. This is
why I ask this favor of all of you. I do not want to be the bad guy
but
should I see someone post something e.g. names, addresses, phone
numbers, references to contact calls, etc..., you will be set to a
moderated
status. Again, I am not trying to be mean but I am trying to protect
myself, this list and the list`s members, all of whom I consider
family.


Thank You So Very Much,
Owner and Moderators of ALIA





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Message: 3
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:40 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - E-mail attatchments


Am writing this letter to the group in reguards to e-mail
attatchments.
If or when you are doing this with you're posting please mention in
the
initial letter that there is an attatchment, as many of us (if it's
not
mentioned) tend to hit the delete key.
Just want to remind everyone of this courtesy, as there are many
attatchments coming out lately, that aren't marked in the intitial
posts.
If the attatchment comes unmarked, please for you're own sake be very
cautious about opening (i myself have found the delete key quite quick

and handy).
Another reminder is be very careful of opening mail that is not in
groups that you are on, or from people you don't know.
once again this is just a precaution
hugs to all
the owner and moderators




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Message: 4
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:43 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - How to use the registry posts



When you receive search posts from the various registries
redistributed
from this address you must reply to the email in the body of the post,

and not to me. I cannot give you any information on any of the
searches
redistributed by me. The email address can be found where it says:
EMAIL= If there is no email address there, you have to remember to go
to:
http://adoptionsearching.com/ Click on SEARCH located in the upper
left
hand corner of the site, enter the DATE OF BIRTH, and click on the
appropriate HOA, WWR # (or whatever the prefix is) to send an email to
the
person searching. This is called Confidental Registrant. I cannot give

you any information regarding any registrant. I also cannot control
any
replies or lack thereof, that you receive from any registrant, be they

Confidential or not. I only redistribute them to your groups as a
service. I am not the owner of any of the registries.



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Message: 5
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:44 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES


It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.

We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.

If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.

Your help with this would be highly appreciated.

Thank you,

Owner/moderators
It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.

We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.

If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.

Your help with this would be highly appreciated.

Thank you,

Owner/moderators



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Message: 6
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:45 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - SENDING MONETARY FUNDS


Hello fellow siblings:

We as the owner/moderators of the group would like to issue a
cautionary email to you as group members.

Sometimes there are members who join our group and see how very
generous and loving you are and can be. They will unfortunately play
on that
generosity for their own motives.

We do encourage members to help and support one another in many ways.

There are times when we recognize that flowers from their siblings or

help with reunion expenses are necessary to ensure that these reunions

will happen.

We would ask that if you hear of a need or would like to send flowers
or some special kind of event that takes gathering funds that you
bring
this to one of the moderators/or owner of the group. We will then
investigate the situation and set up a way to do this. The
owner/moderators reserve the right to say which of these events are
done in the name
of Angels Lost in Adoption Group.

We would also ask if you are approached by someone other than a
moderator or owner of this group for any reason to please notify us as
this is
very strictly against the group ruless unless sanctioned by the
owner/moderators.

Thank you for your help in this matter.

Owner/moderators



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Message: 7
Date: 9 Nov 2003 13:22:47 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - Yahoo Instructions



We wanted to pass this to all of you who are getting subbed to groups
directly. What you need to do is go to Yahoo and click on MyGroups.
Once
you Click on MyGroups go to MyPreferences. Once you are in
MyPreferences Click on the Email addy that you have listed with Yahoo
and you will
see where to set yourself not to be added to other groups by
Moderators. Set yourself to that. This way you cannot be added to
groups that you
have not asked to join unless you have been invited to join. I have
received several complaints from members here on the group that have
been
added to another group here on Yahoo without asking to join. So please

to stop this go do what I have give you instructions to do. Please
remember to do this before unsubbing from a group you have been added
to,
this way you cannot be re-added or subbed to any group that
you do not wish to be on.

Thank You
Owner & Moderators




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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:01:22 -0000
From: "unicorn53tiger" <unicorn53tiger@yahoo.ca>
Subject: questions

Hi. I was just wondering what happened to messages 703024, 70363
and 70364??

I have been getting individual mail for the past 2 days and prior to
that wasn't even getting my digests so I went in to read from the
site and noticed that some of the posts are missing. Where did they
go.

Is there anybody here???

I have sent private emails to the owners and moderators and no one
is answering me..

Hello, HELLO, can anyone see me. Hello Hello anybody home?


Kathryn
adoptee iso bfamily
dob: 3 April 1953
pob: Montreal, Quebec, Canada








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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:59:28 EST
From: opalescenyx@aol.com
Subject: Re: questions

I'm getting you Kathryn, and like you, I frequently don't get all of
the
posts from the groups. It's been that way for months now ...


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:44:15 -0800 (PST)
From: deb s <dleapfrog2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Birthdaughter found by CI,(Deb/Traverse City MI)

Sheila,
I'm sure the laws do differ in different states but I think they will
release it only if your bdaug requests it.If you want her to have it,I

would have your CI ask her if she would like to have it.My bdaug is
only
21 so I was prepared for her not being ready(although I was hoping
that
she would be).If you have signed a consent to release your
ident.info,she should be able to get it as long as she requests it.I
haven't heard
anything.I did e-mail my CI awhile ago and she also had not heard
anything else.I think I am going to write another letter,just to let
her
know I am thinking of her and the door is still(and always will
be)open
for her.Will they let you write a letter to your bdaug for them to
pass
on to her?I also included a picture of us(me and her bsisters)so she
knows what we look like.I will keep you posted and please keep me
posted
also.Good luck!

Deb

Sheila Hart <hart627@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Deb, my b-daug is 35. I wonder if my CI would or could (I'm sure
law's differ from state to state) give her my info without her filling
out
the paper work? So, it's been about 2 months and you haven't heard
from
her? Has your CI had any contact with her? Like I said, my CI has not
heard from her since Oct. 5. I think I will contact him and see what
he
says. Keep me posted on your progress!

Sheila




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:32:23 -0000
From: "stephanie sorbie" <stayfuny@msn.com>
Subject: ISO birth family - dob 02/17/1964 canoga park, ca

I am adopted
I was born in Canoga Park California.
It was a private adoption and my parents drove from Nebraska to get
me.
My birth name could have been "HiLL"
My birth parents were not married and they had an older child they
had kept.
I was told that my birth father was a teacher or professor.

Please help me locate them.....




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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:46:50 EST
From: pricenicky@aol.com
Subject: Re: ISO birth family - dob 02/17/1964 canoga park, ca

Are you so sure about the "Hill" being your birthname? My last name is

Hilliard. Just something to think about. There are alot of Hilliards
in
California.

Nicky


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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:12:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need look-up

Hi, I need phone/address info a distant cousin of
mine,
Jack W.Woodring in Oceanside,CA. found him on
USSearch.
com if anyone could help me,I'd greatly appreciate
it.
Debbie

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:35:34 -0800 (PST)
From: mary gregg <lazymary25@yahoo.com>
Subject: digest

Please set me to digest. I set it on my computer but still getting
overwhelmed with mail. Thank you.


Mary Gregg
iso sibling
1952?


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:04:21 -0000
From: "Mary Lindsey" <lindsey.mary@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Posting

Here is my info:

BM iso son born 4/28/1970. He was born at New York Hospital, NYC,
NY. Maternity Home was Inwood House in NYC. I am from Long Island,
NY but went into city to have my baby. The adoption agency was
Spence Chapin. According to Spence Chapin and NYS - he was not
adopted in NY. Most likely adopted in NJ or CT. I do have the
number from his original birth certificate.

Any suggestions on where to go from here will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mary L.




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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:50:59 -0600
From: "Jim & Wanda" <jaswan@ezl.com>
Subject: Re: NON ID

Joan, you can`t get them if the judge says there is no such thing!
after the 1st of Jan., I`m going to try again--but have been told that
I
have to pay a CI to get all info for me. Wanda--Illinois




----- Original Message -----
From: joan
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: RE: [AngelsLostInAdoption] NON ID


Starting the first of Jan. 2004 you should be able to get
Identifying
info. Laws have changed. Joan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim & Wanda [mailto:jaswan@ezl.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 2:16 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Jim & Wanda
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] NON ID



Hi all searchers!! I`ve tried over & over again to get my adopted
daughter`s NON ID from the courthouse in Edwardsville, Illinois & have
had
no luck--the judge says theres no such thing as NON ID!! I don`t even
have her decree of adoption & they tell me that it`s sealed with all
the
other papers! I have a friend that`s a CI --but I just don`t believe I

should have to PAY for something that should be hers for
free--afterall-she`s 37 years old now!! SO--heres the info
again--maybe with all your
help, we can find her & BEAT THE SYSTEM for a change!



Searching for --Irma Yates(daughter`s BM)

Address in 1966 was R.R.1 Edwardsville, Illinois

Private adoption

In 1966 attorney said Irma was about 33 yrs old

Dr. Was Dr. Mindrup of Jerseyville, Illinois

Hospital--Jersey Comm. Jerseyville, Illinois

Irma gave birth on July 13th, 1966 to a baby girl

Irma named her--Karen Renee Yates



Karen has been married for 16 yrs now & has 4 children . She would
love to have medical info & meet Irma if she is willing.



Thanks, Wanda--Illinois







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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:30:48 EST
From: pricenicky@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need look-up

All I can find is a Jack M. Woodring in Hawthorne. I'll keep
searching.

Nicky


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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:36:51 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Need look-up

Hi, also try www.switchboard.com <http://www.switchboard.com/> they

are
great for telephone numbers. Joan

-----Original Message-----
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad [mailto:dssr59@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:12 AM
To: WestVirginiasLostAndFound@yahoogroups.com;
findthem4younow@yahoogroups.com;
MendingOurBrokenWings@yahoogroups.com;
SearchingForSiblings@yahoogroups.com; 1950_Adoptees@yahoogroups.com;
AkronOhioAdoptees@yahoogroups.com;
angelslostinadoption@yahoogroups.com;
blackmarketbabies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Need look-up

Hi, I need phone/address info a distant cousin of
mine,
Jack W.Woodring in Oceanside,CA. found him on
USSearch.
com if anyone could help me,I'd greatly appreciate
it.
Debbie

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:35:50 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Posting

Hi Mary, fyi- there is a ny/nj search board on yahoo.com Also go to

a ct.
board, and ask around as to how to figure out, which agency might have
worked with Spence Chapin.
BTW, are there medical updates? Will nys let you update the file?
This is what we also need to be concentrating on, changing the laws,
where
children are born in one state, and adopted in another. We should
make
both
states responsible and cooperate with the registry.
Did you do a search on Spence Chapin adoptees. Maybe other people
know
what
states they shipped the children to, or if they should be able to tell

you
that.
Did you check the new york state laws, and see if the agency should
have to
give you better answers than, being vague.
Sincerely,
Joan

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From: Mary Lindsey [mailto:lindsey.mary@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 1:04 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Posting

Here is my info:

BM iso son born 4/28/1970. He was born at New York Hospital, NYC,
NY. Maternity Home was Inwood House in NYC. I am from Long Island,
NY but went into city to have my baby. The adoption agency was
Spence Chapin. According to Spence Chapin and NYS - he was not
adopted in NY. Most likely adopted in NJ or CT. I do have the
number from his original birth certificate.

Any suggestions on where to go from here will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mary L.





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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:24:28 EST
From: registryaide@aol.com
Subject: 1979/12/05 Usa OH Zanesville F ...Ohio Reunion Registry

1979/12/05 Usa OH Zanesville F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
Ohio Reunion Registry - http://www.ohioadoptee.com

ChildLast =
ChildFirst = Childfirst
BirthMomLast =
BirthMomFirst = Joan
County = Muskingum
BirthDate = 12/5/79
BirthCertNum = XXX-XX-XXXXXX
FileNum = female
Type = A Friend Of The Birth Parent
email = OH1068393080860
City = Zanesville
State = OH-Ohio
Nation = Usa
*adopteePublic = no
ID = OH1068393080860


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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:25:00 EST
From: registryaide@aol.com
Subject: ????/??/?? Usa OH Columbus M ...Hearts Of Adoption Reunion
Registry

????/??/?? Usa OH Columbus M ...Hearts Of Adoption Reunion Registry

Hearts Of Adoption Reunion Registry -
http://heartsofadoption.hypermart.net

ChildLast =
ChildFirst = Childfirst
BirthMomLast =
BirthMomFirst = Linda
County = County
BirthDate = 9/?/70
BirthCertNum = XXX-XX-XXXXXX
FileNum = male
Type = A Birth Sister (BS)
email = HOA1068181151550
City = Columbus
State = OH-Ohio
Nation = Usa
*adopteePublic = No
ID = HOA1068181151550


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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:25:35 EST
From: registryaide@aol.com
Subject: 1976/07/24 Usa FL Daytona Be M ...Given Right

1976/07/24 Usa FL Daytona Be M ...Given Right
Given Right - http://givenright.hypermart.net

ChildLast =
ChildFirst = Childfirst
BirthMomLast =
BirthMomFirst = Mary
County = Valusia
BirthDate = 7/24/76
BirthCertNum = XXX-XX-XXXXXX
FileNum = male
Type = A Birth Sister (BS)
email = ASG1067198460562
City = Daytona Beach
State = FL-Florida
Nation = Usa
*adopteePublic = No
ID = ASG1067198460562


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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:48:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Look-up Thanks to all I now have Address & phone# for
Jack
W.Woodring

I really appreciate everyone's help in locating the
info for me...... Debbie

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:57:09 -0000
From: "Carrie M.Breeding" <carriebreeding@yahoo.com>
Subject: Help Please !!!

Hi,this is Carrie Breeding. Please set me to Daily Digest as I'm
getting to many emails. Thanks.




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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:55:56 -0500
From: "marge fortney" <teewee1949@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Need look-up

I tried freeality.com and searched all leads on that and nothing came
up I assume he is 73 yrs old I came up with a 49 yr old in PA. do you
perhaps know where he lived prior to CA.? If so let me know and I will
do
what I can to help you out
take care and God Bless
marge
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From: joan
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Need look-up


Hi, also try www.switchboard.com they are great for telephone
numbers. Joan



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From: Debra Snyder Rexroad [mailto:dssr59@yahoo.com]
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Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Need look-up



Hi, I need phone/address info a distant cousin of
mine,
Jack W.Woodring in Oceanside,CA. found him on
USSearch.
com if anyone could help me,I'd greatly appreciate
it.
Debbie

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