Marley - You missed a GREAT hearing in MA...

[Jackie]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:56:00 GMT, "Ron Morgan"
<rhyzome1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Meanwhile thedesperate still abandon in airport bathrooms and desolate onion fields,because at two in the morning she's as far from an emergency room as she isfrom a social worker, and what she really needs is talking down from hercrisis, not some nutter with a beatitude complex enabling her to abandon.

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum..


Jackie

[DSAngelMom]

<<<<Re: Marley - You missed a GREAT hearing in MA..>>>>
And another great editorial.
Jean
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http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...AG=461&dept_id
=132599&rfi=6

THE HERALD NEWS - FALL RIVER, MA

EDITORIAL

OUR VIEW --- Safe havens save babies

The Herald News Staff 06/25/2003

Some things are so terrible that they’re hard to discuss. Still, problems
must be solved, or at least dealt with in some way, and discussion of terrible
things is the first step in ameliorating their effects.

On Monday night, the Fall River City Council Committee on Ordinance and
Legislation took a good step in discussing a "Baby Safe Haven" ordinance for
Fall River.

It’s terrible but true that parents sometimes, for various heartbreaking
reasons, abandon a newborn child. Sometimes they abandon that child to the
kindness of strangers. Sometimes they abandon that child to the mercy of the
elements. In cases of extreme horror, infants are killed.

Is there a solution to this awful problem? Maybe. One thing is definite: Until
a solution is found, there must be some way to keep these babies alive.

A Baby Safe Haven law is a small bandage on a gaping social wound, but it is at
least a bandage and it can keep babies alive.

These ordinances state that anyone can leave an infant at stated locations, no
questions asked. Most often, the "safe havens" are police stations, fire houses
and hospitals. It’s a sad partial solution to the problem, but it’s end
result is that the baby doesn’t die. Many times, if there is no safe haven,
the baby is killed or left in a trash bin or suffers any one of a number of
heartbreakingly sad fates.

The committee that began considering the ordinance Monday night expressed
unanimous approval. Fall River Chief of Police John Souza is on board.

Massachusetts has no law regarding the establishment of such ordinances, so a
home rule petition is needed. The committee had no choice but to table the
matter and send it on to the city’s corporation counsel. That’s the law.

In the meantime, it is to be hoped that everyone who touches this petition will
move it along swiftly. Bureaucracy’s legendary slowness should not be allowed
to affect this measure.

It is the practice of some politicians to cloak numerous initiatives in the
phrase, "it’s for the children."

This time, it really is for the children.

©The Herald News 2003

[Ron Morgan]

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In article <20030625231942.13547.00001069@mb-m11.aol.com>,
dsangelmom@aol.com (DSAngelMom) wrote:

<<<<Re: Marley - You missed a GREAT hearing in MA..>>>> And another great editorial.

"Until a solution is found, there must be some way to keep these babies
alive." Bandaids. Feel-good laws. Politicians getting more mileage out of
"Save the Children" lawn signs. Business as usual.

Ron

Jean ========= http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...AG=461&dept_id =132599&rfi=6 THE HERALD NEWS - FALL RIVER, MA EDITORIAL OUR VIEW --- Safe havens save babies The Herald News Staff 06/25/2003 Some things are so terrible that they’re hard to discuss. Still, problems must be solved, or at least dealt with in some way, and discussion of terrible things is the first step in ameliorating their effects. On Monday night, the Fall River City Council Committee on Ordinance and Legislation took a good step in discussing a "Baby Safe Haven" ordinance for Fall River. It’s terrible but true that parents sometimes, for various heartbreaking reasons, abandon a newborn child. Sometimes they abandon that child to the kindness of strangers. Sometimes they abandon that child to the mercy of the elements. In cases of extreme horror, infants are killed. Is there a solution to this awful problem? Maybe. One thing is definite: Until a solution is found, there must be some way to keep these babies alive. A Baby Safe Haven law is a small bandage on a gaping social wound, but it is

at

least a bandage and it can keep babies alive. These ordinances state that anyone can leave an infant at stated locations, no questions asked. Most often, the "safe havens" are police stations, fire

houses

and hospitals. It’s a sad partial solution to the problem, but it’s end result is that the baby doesn’t die. Many times, if there is no safe haven, the baby is killed or left in a trash bin or suffers any one of a number of heartbreakingly sad fates. The committee that began considering the ordinance Monday night expressed unanimous approval. Fall River Chief of Police John Souza is on board. Massachusetts has no law regarding the establishment of such ordinances, so a home rule petition is needed. The committee had no choice but to table the matter and send it on to the city’s corporation counsel. That’s the law. In the meantime, it is to be hoped that everyone who touches this petition

will

move it along swiftly. Bureaucracy’s legendary slowness should not be

allowed

to affect this measure. It is the practice of some politicians to cloak numerous initiatives in the phrase, "it’s for the children." This time, it really is for the children. ©The Herald News 2003

[Marley Greiner]

There appears to be an uprising brewing in Waltham. I caught up on BDN
tonight and here's a summary one of the articles:


Newton Daily News Tribune, June 18, 2003
"Safe Haven" is tabled by council
http://www.dailynewstribune.com/news...en06182003.htm
WALTHAM--Handful of city councilors give "chilly reception" to Morriseys
home rule SH resolution. "While some communities have opposed the proposal,
Michael Morrisey said the actions of some Waltham city councilors Monday
night caused his wife to leave the meeting in tears. 'We've actually never
seen that type of hostility in a city. I was actually more embarrassed for
them than anything else."'" City Councilor Robert Logan led charge to quash
resolution. "The issue should be addressed at the state level. It should
not be addressed at the local level." Said it could set precedent if
council considered an issue not specific to local government. Morrisey
claims SH is a local

Oh my!

Marley




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---------- In article <20030625231942.13547.00001069@mb-m11.aol.com>, dsangelmom@aol.com (DSAngelMom) wrote:

"Until a solution is found, there must be some way to keep these babies alive." Bandaids. Feel-good laws. Politicians getting more mileage out of "Save the Children" lawn signs. Business as usual. Ron

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...AG=461&dept_id

=132599&rfi=6 THE HERALD NEWS - FALL RIVER, MA EDITORIAL OUR VIEW --- Safe havens save babies The Herald News Staff 06/25/2003 Some things are so terrible that they’re hard to discuss. Still,

problems

must be solved, or at least dealt with in some way, and discussion of

terrible

things is the first step in ameliorating their effects. On Monday night, the Fall River City Council Committee on Ordinance and Legislation took a good step in discussing a "Baby Safe Haven" ordinance

for

Fall River. It’s terrible but true that parents sometimes, for various

heartbreaking

reasons, abandon a newborn child. Sometimes they abandon that child to

the

kindness of strangers. Sometimes they abandon that child to the mercy of

the

elements. In cases of extreme horror, infants are killed. Is there a solution to this awful problem? Maybe. One thing is definite:

Until

a solution is found, there must be some way to keep these babies alive. A Baby Safe Haven law is a small bandage on a gaping social wound, but

it is

at

locations, no

questions asked. Most often, the "safe havens" are police stations, fire houses

end

result is that the baby doesn’t die. Many times, if there is no safe

haven,

the baby is killed or left in a trash bin or suffers any one of a number

of

heartbreakingly sad fates. The committee that began considering the ordinance Monday night

expressed

unanimous approval. Fall River Chief of Police John Souza is on board. Massachusetts has no law regarding the establishment of such ordinances,

so a

home rule petition is needed. The committee had no choice but to table

the

matter and send it on to the city’s corporation counsel. That’s the

law.

In the meantime, it is to be hoped that everyone who touches this

petition

will

allowed

the

phrase, "it’s for the children." This time, it really is for the children. ©The Herald News 2003

[LilMtnCbn]

>Subject: Re: Marley - You missed a GREAT hearing in MA...

From: "Marley Greiner" maddogmarley@worldnet.att.netDate: 6/25/03 11:15 PM Mountain Daylight TimeMessage-id: <VjvKa.21551$0v4.1733951@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>There appears to be an uprising brewing in Waltham. I caught up on BDNtonight and here's a summary one of the articles:Newton Daily News Tribune, June 18, 2003"Safe Haven" is tabled by councilhttp://www.dailynewstribune.com/news...en06182003.htmWALTHAM--Handful of city councilors give "chilly reception" to Morriseyshome rule SH resolution. "While some communities have opposed the proposal,Michael Morrisey said the actions of some Waltham city councilors Mondaynight caused his wife to leave the meeting in tears. 'We've actually neverseen that type of hostility in a city. I was actually more embarrassed forthem than anything else."'" City Councilor Robert Logan led charge to quashresolution. "The issue should be addressed at the state level. It shouldnot be addressed at the local level." Said it could set precedent ifcouncil considered an issue not specific to local government. Morriseyclaims SH is a localOh my!Marley

No doubt!