OT is ping Kathy: cookbook

[Stephanie]

I started my price book. Now I can get the lowest price on beef tenderloin
around! You had mentioned cookbook(s) that you liked with small number of
cheap ingredients. I am looking not only for the best price on a thing, but
also the lowest total cost of groceries. My google impairment prevents me
from being able to find the place where you originally mentioned a cookbook
that you like for this sort of thing.

Incidentally, we are now eating plenty of chicken pieces (cheaper than
boneless boob to my DH's dismay).

Thanks.

[DrLith]

Stephanie wrote:

I started my price book. Now I can get the lowest price on beef tenderloin around! You had mentioned cookbook(s) that you liked with small number of cheap ingredients. I am looking not only for the best price on a thing, but also the lowest total cost of groceries. My google impairment prevents me from being able to find the place where you originally mentioned a cookbook that you like for this sort of thing. Incidentally, we are now eating plenty of chicken pieces (cheaper than boneless boob to my DH's dismay). Thanks.

I probably mentioned the "More with Less Cookbook," which is an
oldy-but-goody by now from the Mennonite Church. I think it's a really
great A-Z cookbook that packs a ton of recipies into a small footprint,
and I like the balance between fairly familiar "comfort food" type
recipes and mildly ethnic fare (gleaned from Mennonite missionary
communities throughout the world) that doesn't require you to go out and
buy a bottle of thai fish sauce, only to have the toddler turn up the
nose and demand chicken nuggets.

Try out the boneless skinless chicken thighs, btw, if you see them at a
good price! They're usually cheaper than bls/sknls boobs, *and* they
taste better, IMHO. They work well in stir fries and so on where the
ease of boneless is a consideration.

[Stephanie]

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Stephanie wrote:

I probably mentioned the "More with Less Cookbook," which is an oldy-but-goody by now from the Mennonite Church. I think it's a really great A-Z cookbook that packs a ton of recipies into a small footprint, and I like the balance between fairly familiar "comfort food" type recipes and mildly ethnic fare (gleaned from Mennonite missionary communities throughout the world) that doesn't require you to go out and buy a bottle of thai fish sauce, only to have the toddler turn up the nose and demand chicken nuggets. Try out the boneless skinless chicken thighs, btw, if you see them at a good price! They're usually cheaper than bls/sknls boobs, *and* they taste better, IMHO. They work well in stir fries and so on where the ease of boneless is a consideration.

That's the one! Thanks!

[GGGNH]

In article <3mm9s8F16l6bhU1@individual.net>,
DrLith <drlith@spamnotmail.com> wrote:

Stephanie wrote:

I probably mentioned the "More with Less Cookbook," which is an oldy-but-goody by now from the Mennonite Church. I think it's a really great A-Z cookbook that packs a ton of recipies into a small footprint, and I like the balance between fairly familiar "comfort food" type recipes and mildly ethnic fare (gleaned from Mennonite missionary communities throughout the world)

Being raised in an area of German influence, including the largest
concentration of Amish in the world, this cookbook was a staple for us,
the same as the food included in the recipes. My mother got all of the
siblings a copy. Unfortunately, the ex got it in the divorce. But, when
I was home visiting, I was able to pick up a new copy. I liked the old
one, as it was spiral, so you could keep the page you were using on top.

Another great book, in the same vein, was/is Mrs. Miller's Cookbook. she
ran a dining room out of the basement of her home, that fed busloads at
a time. If you were lucky enough, you too could enjoy the food if you
stopped by while the bus was there. I doubt if it still around, but if
it is you might look at it as well. It may have been printed locally and
not available nationwide. I have two things I really relish out of that
one, catsup and sweet relish (now made with Splenda instead of sugar).

GGG

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[Tracey]

GGGNH wrote:

Being raised in an area of German influence, including the largest concentration of Amish in the world, this cookbook was a staple for us, the same as the food included in the recipes.

I have a cookbook that I love that I bought at a grocery store in
central/almost northern Indiana. It is a book that was made up and
published by a group of Amish women (what is it with the Amish and
cooking? :P~) and it's chock full of normal, everyday recipes that,
like someone already mentioned, you don't have to go on a scavenger
hunt for ingredients. ('Waddya mean the grocery store on the corner
doesn't carry rendered duck fat? It should be right between the
Oscar Mayer bologna and the Old-Fashioned loaf!)

My two favorite parts of it is the description of the preparations
for an Amish wedding (something like 'We fry up 50 chickens and bake
100 pies) and the recipe on how to make 100 pounds of bologna.

Tracey

[Joy]

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I started my price book.

This might be a stupid question, but what is a price book?


Now I can get the lowest price on beef tenderloin

around! You had mentioned cookbook(s) that you liked with small number of cheap ingredients. I am looking not only for the best price on a thing, but also the lowest total cost of groceries. My google impairment prevents me from being able to find the place where you originally mentioned a cookbook that you like for this sort of thing. Incidentally, we are now eating plenty of chicken pieces (cheaper than boneless boob to my DH's dismay). Thanks.

[-Calliope-]

On Fri 19 Aug 2005 08:35:54p, Joy wrote:

I started my price book. This might be a stupid question, but what is a price book?

hehehe... I started to type exactly that question, and then though.. wait
a minute... what if someone already asked and it'd been answered.

So, don't feel bad, if it's a stupid question, I'm stupid too.
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Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[Tracey]

Joy wrote:

This might be a stupid question, but what is a price book?

Simplified answer: It's a book in which you record the prices
of items in different stores so that you can tell if it's a
good deal or not. For example, you're at Costco and see some
kind of meat on sale for $6.59 a lb. You look in your book and
say 'Hey, but at Mr. Murphy's down the road, it's *always*
$6.59 a lb so I don't need to buy 200 lbs of it here.'

Tracey

[Joy]

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Joy wrote:

Simplified answer: It's a book in which you record the prices of items in different stores so that you can tell if it's a good deal or not. For example, you're at Costco and see some kind of meat on sale for $6.59 a lb. You look in your book and say 'Hey, but at Mr. Murphy's down the road, it's *always* $6.59 a lb so I don't need to buy 200 lbs of it here.'

You mean you're supposed to go around to different stores and write prices
down? That sounds like a lot of work. Speaking only for myself, I
generally only shop at a couple of places, and I tend to buy the same stuff
regularly - so it isn't too hard for me to remember that the soup I like is
cheaper at WalMart, but Kroger carries the brand of coconut milk I like. (I
don't know that I've *ever* paid $6.59/# for meat - maybe I'd feel different
if I bought more expensive stuff).

[Tracey]

Joy wrote:

"Tracey" <rbrancher2@aol.com> wrote in message news:43068C23.3030807@aol.com...

You mean you're supposed to go around to different stores and write prices down?

Not necessarily, although you could. You could also keep your receipt
and just copy it over in the comfort of your own home.

That sounds like a lot of work.

It is a bit of work but if your goal is to save money where you can,
that's what you have to do. It's not cost effective to buy something
that you see on sale in KMart one day, for instance, if the same item
is sold daily at a lower price in the WalMart you go to.

Speaking only for myself, I generally only shop at a couple of places, and I tend to buy the same stuff regularly - so it isn't too hard for me to remember that the soup I like is cheaper at WalMart, but Kroger carries the brand of coconut milk I like.

Well, here there are *tons* of places that we shop. We have the Navy
Commissary, the Air Force Commissary (although their prices are usually
close enough for us), then all of the little PXes that around, then
there are the civilian grocery stores that we might go to because
they're closer than the military ones then there's Costco where we
will usually just buy things for the convenient bigger sizes or things
that aren't available in the Commissaries. And not to forget KMart and
other stores like that.

(I don't know that I've *ever* paid $6.59/# for meat - maybe I'd feeldifferent if I bought more expensive stuff).

You've never bought *any* kind of lunch meat like roast beef or turkey
breast from the deli? If you have, then you've paid $6 plus per lb for
it.

But it's not only expensive stuff. Pennies add up.

Tracey
<whose son moved into his dorm yesterday so she's been drumming that
into his brain lately>

[Joy]

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Joy wrote:

Not necessarily, although you could. You could also keep your receipt and just copy it over in the comfort of your own home.

It is a bit of work but if your goal is to save money where you can, that's what you have to do. It's not cost effective to buy something that you see on sale in KMart one day, for instance, if the same item is sold daily at a lower price in the WalMart you go to.

Well, here there are *tons* of places that we shop. We have the Navy Commissary, the Air Force Commissary (although their prices are usually close enough for us), then all of the little PXes that around, then there are the civilian grocery stores that we might go to because they're closer than the military ones then there's Costco where we will usually just buy things for the convenient bigger sizes or things that aren't available in the Commissaries. And not to forget KMart and other stores like that.

You've never bought *any* kind of lunch meat like roast beef or turkey breast from the deli? If you have, then you've paid $6 plus per lb for it.

Kroger has a perfectly acceptable smoked turkey for $4.99/pound, and a
couple types of ham/beef/pastrami in the same price range (it is the Kroger
brand stuff, but really it is just as good as the more expensive types).
WalMart has some brands that are even cheaper - I'm pretty sure I've bought
smoked turkey there for $2.99 - $3.99/ pound. That said, you're probably
right - surely there has been _some_ occasion when I've bought some
expensive lunch meat, but it sure wouldn't be the norm - we just aren't big
sandwich eaters. For that matter, I rarely buy loaf bread or sandwich
rolls - we just don't eat much of it. We do eat french bread fairly
regularly, but again Kroger has this great bake-it-yourself loaf in the deli
section - the dough is already formed and risen, you just pop it into the
oven for a few minutes and you've got quite a good loaf for $1.50.

[GGGNH]

In article <430619D3.4050708@aol.com>, Tracey <rbrancher2@aol.com>
wrote:

My two favorite parts of it is the description of the preparations for an Amish wedding (something like 'We fry up 50 chickens and bake 100 pies) and the recipe on how to make 100 pounds of bologna.

And how to make potato and egg salad, cole slaw, and tapioca pudding in
33 gallon containers? :-)

GGG

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[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 11:50:46a, GGGNH wrote:

And how to make potato and egg salad, cole slaw, and tapioca pudding in 33 gallon containers? :-)

Thanks big guy.. you just gave me flashbacks to why I no longer eat cole
slaw from a resturant.

Picture a guy mixing cole slaw in a giant plastic trash barrel, by shoving
his hands and arms way down into the bottom of the barrel, and when he
comes up, he's got cole slaw up under his arm pits. Yuck. (double yuck,
cuz it was the ex- at 17)

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Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

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Picture a guy mixing cole slaw in a giant plastic trash barrel, by shoving his hands and arms way down into the bottom of the barrel, and when he comes up, he's got cole slaw up under his arm pits. Yuck. (double yuck, cuz it was the ex- at 17)

And your arms were freezing and sticky all the way up to your armpits by the
time you were done, too-even if you were double gloved.

Jess

[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 12:05:10p, Jess wrote:

And your arms were freezing and sticky all the way up to your armpits by the time you were done, too-even if you were double gloved.

Gloved? Honey, we're talking 1976 here... they didn't wear no stinkin'
gloves!

And currently, I don't know of any gloves that would go all the way up to
and over someone's armpits. No way would I eat anyone's cole slaw, other
than my moms. Yumm.

(damn, why isn't my daughter ready to go, yet!!?)

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calliope 123 at gmail dot com

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Gloved? Honey, we're talking 1976 here... they didn't wear no stinkin' gloves!

Damn. They've improved, then. When I was working fast food, we were
making coleslaw in 50 pound batches, and even with gloves on, we'd get all
over sticky. It was a great inducement for my shifts to come in on time.

And currently, I don't know of any gloves that would go all the way up to and over someone's armpits. No way would I eat anyone's cole slaw, other than my moms. Yumm.

I don't like coleslaw anymore. :/

(damn, why isn't my daughter ready to go, yet!!?)

Murphy's Law. You know that.

Jess

[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 12:36:59p, Jess wrote:

"-Calliope-" <calliope123remove@removegmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96B87BED5FC1D19599491@207.69.189.191...

Damn. They've improved, then.

heh.. you're just so *young*, honey. Or.. err.. I'm just so *old*..
sigh..

When I was working fast food, we were making coleslaw in 50 pound batches,

That was what, seven or eight years ago?

The resturant we worked and met was one of the nicest ones in the town we
lived in at the time. I couldn't tell you how big the batch was, just a
large plastic trash barrel amount, usually measured in gallons, like 55
gal drum sized?

and even with gloves on, we'd get all over sticky. It was a great inducement for my shifts to come in on time.

I don't like coleslaw anymore. :/

Other than hers, me either. Nasty stuff. Though I might be willing to
try it when it's made at someone's home. My moms is made w/o a recipe,
just a bit o'this.. bit o'that.. and it always tastes good. When I tried
to make it, it was bleah.

(damn, why isn't my daughter ready to go, yet!!?) Murphy's Law. You know that.

Well, we finished shopping for camp. :-(

Camp... $$$$$, stuff for camp $$$, senior night -more $$, meals for ride
and back $... ugh. On the bright side, this is the last one.

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Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[DrLith]

-Calliope- wrote:

Other than hers, me either. Nasty stuff. Though I might be willing to try it when it's made at someone's home. My moms is made w/o a recipe, just a bit o'this.. bit o'that.. and it always tastes good. When I tried to make it, it was bleah.

Do you like Good Eats with Alton Brown? He did a show on assorted slaws
recently--I'm not the hugest Alton Brown fan, and it was the cheesiest
episode I've ever seen him do, but it did have some good ideas.

[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 03:43:07p, DrLith wrote:

-Calliope- wrote:

Do you like Good Eats with Alton Brown? He did a show on assorted slaws recently--I'm not the hugest Alton Brown fan, and it was the cheesiest episode I've ever seen him do, but it did have some good ideas.

No, I've never heard of Alton Brown, sorry. I'm going on the assumption
this is a show on Food Network?
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Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[Bill in Co.]

-Calliope- wrote:

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 12:36:59p, Jess wrote:

Other than hers, me either. Nasty stuff. Though I might be willing to try it when it's made at someone's home. My moms is made w/o a recipe, just a bit o'this.. bit o'that.. and it always tastes good. When I tried to make it, it was bleah.

Have you guys ever had cole slaw made with some vinegar(?) type base,
instead of mayonnaise? It looks almost clear, except for the vegetables.
It's great! Do you know what I'm talking about? I had it at a place up
in Maine. Maybe they're the only ones that do it, I dunno?

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heh.. you're just so *young*, honey. Or.. err.. I'm just so *old*.. sigh..

*snickersnicker*

That was what, seven or eight years ago?

*counting back* Abouts, yeah.

The resturant we worked and met was one of the nicest ones in the town we lived in at the time. I couldn't tell you how big the batch was, just a large plastic trash barrel amount, usually measured in gallons, like 55 gal drum sized?

50 gal plastic bin with a lid and it's own cart.

Well, we finished shopping for camp. :-( Camp... $$$$$, stuff for camp $$$, senior night -more $$, meals for ride and back $... ugh. On the bright side, this is the last one.

Unhhunh. I'll remind you of that at the end of the year when you're sobbing
that this is the last one. ;p

Jess

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Have you guys ever had cole slaw made with some vinegar(?) type base, instead of mayonnaise? It looks almost clear, except for the vegetables. It's great! Do you know what I'm talking about? I had it at a place up in Maine. Maybe they're the only ones that do it, I dunno?

Yeah, MIL makes it that way. Still don't like it anymore.

Jess

[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 05:58:05p, Jess wrote:

Well, we finished shopping for camp. :-( Camp... $$$$$, stuff for camp $$$, senior night -more $$, meals for ride and back $... ugh. On the bright side, this is the last one. Unhhunh. I'll remind you of that at the end of the year when you're sobbing that this is the last one. ;p

hahaha.. you are so right. It already brings tears to my eyes, just
thinking of it.... this is IT.. this has been such an enormous part of
even my life for the last eight years.. sigh..
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Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[-Calliope-]

On Sat 20 Aug 2005 05:58:50p, Jess wrote:

"Bill in Co." <surly_curmudgeon08@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:cFMNe.9072$WD.2609@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...

Yeah, MIL makes it that way. Still don't like it anymore. Jess

I don't think I have tried it that way, but I'm not a big fan of vinegar.
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"-Calliope-" <calliope123remove@removegmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't think I have tried it that way, but I'm not a big fan of vinegar.

She uses apple cider vinegar, and it's not too bad.

Jess

[Stephanie]

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"Tracey" <rbrancher2@aol.com> wrote in message news:43068C23.3030807@aol.com...

You mean you're supposed to go around to different stores and write prices down? That sounds like a lot of work. Speaking only for myself, I generally only shop at a couple of places, and I tend to buy the same stuff regularly - so it isn't too hard for me to remember that the soup I like is cheaper at WalMart, but Kroger carries the brand of coconut milk I like. (I don't know that I've *ever* paid $6.59/# for meat - maybe I'd feel different if I bought more expensive stuff).

There are 2 issues for me.
1. I want to cut our grocery expenses.
2. I have very visual memory, what there is of it anyway. So I can tell
myself today that I bought ground beef at x/lb. And if I don't write it
down, it is gone. Even if I do write it down, I have to refer because I have
no memory. I have literally no idea what a good price is for something.

So I am going to try it and see if it is worth the work. My goal is to get
familiar enough with the things I buy not to need it anymore.

Stephanie