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    I would like to think it is.

    It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover that
    goes over your license plate too.

    Some customers have called us about them.

    It might not be good for us though because according to our company
    records, red light tickets account for nearly 20 percent of all our
    online internet traffic school customers.

    ;'>

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    Smile: You're on Photo Radar Camera

    Unsuspecting drivers are getting surprise traffic tickets in the mail,
    and many believe they are an innocent victim of a faulty automated
    machine. Those drivers do not question the concept of a hidden camera,
    just whether the camera can be considered accurate.

    Washington (PRWEB) October 8, 2004 -- Unsuspecting victims of the
    "Candid Camera" television show smile when they are caught, but these
    victims of hidden traffic cameras have nothing to smile about.

    Motorists sent tickets by mail for traffic violations along with a
    photo of their vehicle say it is more like "big brother is watching"
    than "Candid Camera." Critics say the need for added revenue has
    motivated municipalities all around the world to purchase automated
    photo radar units that take pictures of speeding cars without the need
    for a police officer to operate the unit.

    More and more drivers are claiming that they are getting "Photo Cop"
    tickets unfairly because they were not actually speeding, or going
    through a red light. They claim the camera is not functioning
    correctly.

    Despite faulty cameras that have cost municipalities millions in
    damages, most police departments are undaunted by the complaints, and
    they continue to put more of the units into use. Although they claim
    they are motivated by safety and not revenue, it is hard for
    disaffected motorists to see it that way.

    PhotoBlocker (tm) spray, available at local auto supply stores and
    on-line at www.PhantomPlate.com, provides motorists a simple form of
    defense against faulty cameras.

    PhotoBlocker (tm) is easily sprayed on a license plate. It works on
    plates from any state or any country. The spray appears clear to the
    naked eye, so the registration plate can be seen clearly by police
    officers. However, when a photo radar camera takes a flash picture of
    the plate the spray causes a bright reflection making the registration
    number too difficult to read.

    "When they can't see your plate they can't send you a ticket in the
    mail," explains Joe Scott, marketing director for PhantomPlate, Inc.,
    the firm that makes PhotoBlocker (tm).

    The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and
    break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are
    unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.

    "A police officer has the ability to use his human judgment and
    evaluate whether a ticket is justified for someone who may be showing
    up on radar just a small amount over the limit. The officer knows that
    a speedometer may be slightly off, the radar unit may be slightly off,
    and so he targets the speeders who are excessively over the limit and
    a genuine danger to us all," said Scott.

    A computerized traffic camera just takes pictures and sends out
    tickets. It not only lacks human good sense, it can easily
    malfunction.

    Numerous tests by news organizations and police themselves shows
    PhotoBlocker to be effective in preventing a Photo Radar image from
    being legible. At the present time there are no specific laws against
    the spray.

    PhotoBlocker has been featured in news stories by the Washington Post,
    NBC, CBS, ABC News, Tech TV, Norwegian TV, Dutch TV, Washington Times,
    UK's Daily Mail, NewsMax.com and many, many more. To date conclusive
    tests have been conducted by the Denver Police Dept., Dutch Police,
    Fox News, Swedish TV, Australian TV, and British TV.

    The company offers a money-back guaranty, but to date less than one
    half of one percent of all customers have requested a refund,
    according to Scott.

    Testimonials from happy customers abound on the company's website at
    www.PhantomPlate.com.

    Contact:
    Joe Scott
    PhantomPlate Inc.
    P.O. Box 1247
    Washington, DC 20013
    (703) 624 9318
    (888) 207 7040

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    http://www.internettrafficschool.com

    Online Driving School

    http://www.onlinedrivingschool.com

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    Los Angeles, CA -- October 12, 2004 -- In just a few short years, the
    internet traffic school phenomeon has transformed the driving
    course-traffic school industry. What began in 1996, as a small
    experiment, in response to consumer interest for alternative methods
    to fulfill court requirements regarding removal of traffic-related
    violations, internet-based traffic violator programs like Internet
    Traffic School and Driving School Online have flourished.

    Terry Haggin, CEO of Internet Traffic School, one of the nation's
    largest online traffic schools stated, "The interest has been
    staggering. Well beyond what I ever though it would be when we started
    way back in 1997. But the business model behind internet schools like
    ours is unique. Our market consists of motivated consumers because
    they do not want to sit in an 8 hour course away from home when they
    have an alternative to do it at home or work or whereever. The vast
    majority are happy to call us or find us on the web."

    Motivated is right because on one hand you have a future of 8 hours
    plus of boring, dull traffic-related information spent in a cold,
    unfriendly environment and on the other hand a future of higher
    insurance payments, driving record penalties and the potential of
    having licence suspensions or in fact losing your right to drive.

    "Another unique aspect of this is that we actually have the police
    officers and the courts working with us. The officers see violations,
    write tickets and then the court steers our students directly to us.
    The officers and the courts like people to go internet schools because
    people learn more. In every internet school, they have to take tests
    to pass while in a classroom all you have to do is endure the time
    until it is over."

    So who loses in this? Apparently, the in-class schools do.

    Their market share has plumented over the last 6 years, enrollment is
    down drastically and as a result many traditional schools have simply
    closed their doors.

    Also the losers are the insurance companies. When a student opts to
    attend an internet-based school, the points are removed from their
    driving record before the state agency can assess the penalty. If no
    penalty is assessed, the insurance company never finds out and the
    rates are not raised.

    It is estimated that the increased number of students attending
    traffic school due to the availability of home study courses, 40%
    overall is the estimated increase, have put more than $10,000,000
    dollars into the state's budget and on the negative side, cost
    insurance companies more than $50,000,000.

    According to Mr. Haggin, "That is what I like the most, taking money
    away from the insurance companies and putting it back into the pockets
    of people just like me. I get up every morning happy because I am
    helping someone save money and reduce a little of the stress on their
    life."

    Currently, internet traffic schools are only authorized in a few
    states, California, Texas and Florida being three but with the runaway
    success of these programs, it won't be long until every state is on
    the online driving school bandwagon.

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    Default Is this Phantom Plate spray for license plates legal?

    You sure are one sick individual aren't you?

    You say you run a driving school and you want folks to be comfortable
    blowing red lights and killing people!!!!

    What a freaking low life *******.

    I guess, there has to be scum of the earth companies like you folks, but
    to admit it publicly, well....

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    88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

    support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    I would like to think it is. It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover that goes over your license plate too. Some customers have called us about them. It might not be good for us though because according to our company records, red light tickets account for nearly 20 percent of all our online internet traffic school customers. ;'> - karen Internet Traffic School http://www.internettrafficschool.com Online Driving School http://www.onlinedrivingschool.com ------------------------------------

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    support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.
    Bull****.

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    On 8 Oct 2004 16:49:52 -0700, support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    I would like to think it is.It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover thatgoes over your license plate too.
    If it worked, it'd be illegal.

    If it doesn't work, promoting it would be fraud.

    Dirty spammer.

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    On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:17:00 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.
    Bull****.
    Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would
    deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this
    junk.

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    Skip wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:17:00 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.
    Bull****.
    Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this junk.
    ~50% of the U$$A is stupid enough to think G "I knew that" Bu$h is
    a good president.

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    Christopher Green wrote:
    On 8 Oct 2004 16:49:52 -0700, support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    I would like to think it is. It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover that goes over your license plate too.
    If it worked, it'd be illegal.
    Cite?
    If it doesn't work, promoting it would be fraud.
    Stupid people deserve to be defrauded. It's economic Darwinism.
    Dirty spammer.

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    Defense Secretary McNamara 1965

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    Make no mistake about it!"
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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:55:57 -0600, "_News Server_" <news@usenet.org>
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    Skip wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:17:00 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:> The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and> break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are> unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified> tickets. Bull****.
    Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this junk.
    ~50% of the U$$A is stupid enough to think G "I knew that" Bu$h isa good president.
    And the other 50% are stupid enough to think that Kerry can actually
    say something without changing his mind 2 minutes later..

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    Skip wrote:
    The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights andbreak speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who areunfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.
    Bull****.
    Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this junk.
    My Bull**** comment was re: the stated intended purpose.

    I don't know if the spray works or not, but it's clearly not for
    people wrongly ticketed. That's what court is for.


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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:25:41 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    Skip wrote:
    >The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and>break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are>unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.Bull****. Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this junk.
    My Bull**** comment was re: the stated intended purpose.I don't know if the spray works or not, but it's clearly not forpeople wrongly ticketed. That's what court is for.
    You must be joking! Traffic court provides no avenue for a fair and
    impartial hearing. That's exactly why I have zero problem with people
    using this kind of spray or anything else the keeps photo-anything
    from working.
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    Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

    "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
    establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
    Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
    the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
    to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
    of Representatives, August 17, 1789

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    AZGuy wrote:
    I don't know if the spray works or not, but it's clearly not forpeople wrongly ticketed. That's what court is for.
    You must be joking! Traffic court provides no avenue for a fair and impartial hearing. That's exactly why I have zero problem with people using this kind of spray or anything else the keeps photo-anything from working.
    You're talking to some one who walked away from 7 out of a total of 13
    tickets, a couple of which I probably should have been found guilty.

    Court works just fine, TYVM.

    Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts: "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House of Representatives, August 17, 1789
    Obsess much, Militia Boy?

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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:31:46 -0700, AZGuy <jimnazSPAMOUT@cox.net>
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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:25:41 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    Skip wrote:
    >>The spray is not intended to enable people to run traffic lights and>>break speed limits. It does enable law abiding drivers who are>>unfairly ticketed to have a way to prevent those unjustified tickets.>Bull****. Hmmmm. They must have had spray left over from the spray that would deflect but not reflect radar. And to think people actually buy this junk.
    My Bull**** comment was re: the stated intended purpose.I don't know if the spray works or not, but it's clearly not forpeople wrongly ticketed. That's what court is for.
    You must be joking! Traffic court provides no avenue for a fair andimpartial hearing. That's exactly why I have zero problem with peopleusing this kind of spray or anything else the keeps photo-anythingfrom working.
    I couldnt agree more.

    BTW those clear plastic plate covers are illegal in many states and
    will give a traffic cop a PC to pull you over and search your vehicle.

    Not a good idea.

    This plate spray is invisible so I am sure its still legal, or at
    least close enough

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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:57:14 -0600, "_News Server_" <news@usenet.org>
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    Christopher Green wrote:
    On 8 Oct 2004 16:49:52 -0700, support@internettrafficschool.com wrote:
    I would like to think it is. It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover that goes over your license plate too.
    If it worked, it'd be illegal.
    Cite?
    In California, CVC 5201(f) and (g). For other states, look it up
    yourself.

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    On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:14:34 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote:
    AZGuy wrote:
    I don't know if the spray works or not, but it's clearly not forpeople wrongly ticketed. That's what court is for. You must be joking! Traffic court provides no avenue for a fair and impartial hearing. That's exactly why I have zero problem with people using this kind of spray or anything else the keeps photo-anything from working.
    You're talking to some one who walked away from 7 out of a total of 13tickets, a couple of which I probably should have been found guilty.Court works just fine, TYVM.
    How many were because the cop didn't show up versus because you
    convinced them with your evidence? In my experience they don't even
    bother looking at evidence if you bring it and the only way you can
    get off is the cop not showing up, or the cop is honest in his
    testimony and admits he didn't have a good view or something like
    that. The chances of getting an honest cop are about as good as the
    chances of getting an impartial judge.
    Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts: "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House of Representatives, August 17, 1789Obsess much, Militia Boy?
    --
    Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

    "What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
    establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
    Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
    the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
    to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
    of Representatives, August 17, 1789

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    In article <21fb0b72.0410081549.6e716671@posting.google.com >,
    support@internettrafficschool.com says...
    I would like to think it is.
    Probably isn't, but it might be hard to detect.
    It sounds pretty good but I've also heard about a plastic cover thatgoes over your license plate too.
    In NY state it is illegal to use any type of cover, clear or otherwise,
    over your plate.
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