Finding a job?

[jbrianchamberlin]

What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may
be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee
except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard
anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

[WhansaMi]

"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

Brian, DH got laid off about 8 years ago. He had to take a job where he
made only about 2/3 of his previous salary for about six months, during
which time he looked for, and obtained, a position commiserate with his
previous position.

I believe I've heard (don't ask me where) that, generally, it is better to
have a job, ANY job, when looking for a job, than not. You might want to
think about looking outside your skill set, or below what you really should
be making, and get something for the interim.

Sheila

[-Calliope-]

On Thu 21 Jul 2005 05:33:35p, B. Chamberlin wrote:

What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

I was out of work from Sept 2003 to Feb of 2005, though I filled in with
temp postions. My ex was let go from his employer April of 2004, and he's
still unemployed.

--
Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[-Calliope-]

On Thu 21 Jul 2005 06:27:43p, WhansaMi wrote:

I believe I've heard (don't ask me where) that, generally, it is better to have a job, ANY job, when looking for a job, than not.

Yes, this is true. There are actually companies set up that provide a
'Company Front' so to speak, with a receptionist, phones, faxes, offices
and conference rooms, etc.. so that people can appear to be employed while
job hunting. The funny thing is, most everyone knows who they are and
what they do, but it still seems to 'work'. These types of companies are
usually utilized by top executives and such and are often a 'perk' of
those laid off through no fault of their own.
--
Cal~

calliope 123 at gmail dot com

[jwb]

"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

Getting a job *is* a job.

Some pointers (I've proven very good at this, by the way):

* Most jobs are not filled by people answering ads. In fact, most openings
are never advertised. They are filled by people knowing somebody. You need
to call your contacts in your industry.

* Every cover letter you send should be written for that particular job.
Plus, you should have several different copies of your resume, each tailored
to a specific focus (for example, one for retail management, one for retail
buyer, another for marketing manager, etc etc)

* Speaking of resumes, how is yours? You realize most don't even get read.
People make the mistake of agonizing over silly details - the resume has one
purpose, and one purpose only - to make your phone ring. That's it. In other
words, tell them what they want to hear.

* Use this time wisely. If you haven't posted your resume to every online
service you can think of, well... why haven't you? Most of them can be
tailored to send you job openings in your field via e-mail everyday.

* Use this time wisely #2 - Learn something. If you don't know HTML, learn
it. Learning to make and upload webpages is one of the most important skills
you can learn... why? Because you can make a little three page "about Brian"
website, and direct employers there. It's stuff like this that got me hired
over more qualified people more than once.

* do something *every single day* related to getting a job. And I don't mean
circle want ads.

* get out there and talk to people. Go to companies you'd like to work at
and try to make an appointment with the supervisor of the department you'd
like to work in. Say "I'm looking for a job, and I just wanted to introduce
myself to you"

* don't sleep late. Your competition isn't.

I've done all of the above when looking for work. Always remember that there
are people like me competing with you. People willing to do that much more.
The people who send resumes and wait for a call will never, ever beat a
person like that.

[dejablues]

"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

Have you filed for unemployment?

[jbrianchamberlin]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:09:27 GMT, "jwb" <jwb3333removethis@excite.com>
wrote:

"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in messagenews:v350e11laapd47gdjb8e6ihpoldmairkki@4ax .com...

Getting a job *is* a job.Some pointers (I've proven very good at this, by the way):* Most jobs are not filled by people answering ads. In fact, most openingsare never advertised. They are filled by people knowing somebody. You needto call your contacts in your industry.* Every cover letter you send should be written for that particular job.Plus, you should have several different copies of your resume, each tailoredto a specific focus (for example, one for retail management, one for retailbuyer, another for marketing manager, etc etc)* Speaking of resumes, how is yours? You realize most don't even get read.People make the mistake of agonizing over silly details - the resume has onepurpose, and one purpose only - to make your phone ring. That's it. In otherwords, tell them what they want to hear.* Use this time wisely. If you haven't posted your resume to every onlineservice you can think of, well... why haven't you? Most of them can betailored to send you job openings in your field via e-mail everyday.* Use this time wisely #2 - Learn something. If you don't know HTML, learnit. Learning to make and upload webpages is one of the most important skillsyou can learn... why? Because you can make a little three page "about Brian"website, and direct employers there. It's stuff like this that got me hiredover more qualified people more than once.* do something *every single day* related to getting a job. And I don't meancircle want ads.* get out there and talk to people. Go to companies you'd like to work atand try to make an appointment with the supervisor of the department you'dlike to work in. Say "I'm looking for a job, and I just wanted to introducemyself to you"* don't sleep late. Your competition isn't.I've done all of the above when looking for work. Always remember that thereare people like me competing with you. People willing to do that much more.The people who send resumes and wait for a call will never, ever beat aperson like that.

All seems like valid advice. Thank you.

--Brian

[jbrianchamberlin]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:52:26 -0400, "dejablues" <deja.blues@gmail.com>
wrote:

"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in messagenews:v350e11laapd47gdjb8e6ihpoldmairkki@4ax .com...

Have you filed for unemployment?

Yeah, it pays a whopping $316 a week and I haven't gotten a check yet.

[Stephanie]

"jwb" <jwb3333removethis@excite.com> wrote in message
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"B. Chamberlin" <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:v350e11laapd47gdjb8e6ihpoldmairkki@4ax.com...

Getting a job *is* a job. Some pointers (I've proven very good at this, by the way): * Most jobs are not filled by people answering ads. In fact, most openings are never advertised. They are filled by people knowing somebody. You need to call your contacts in your industry.

Also read trade journals. DH found an unadvertised job by writing to an
employer who had been quoted about the difficulty of hiring qualified
technical people locally.

* Every cover letter you send should be written for that particular job. Plus, you should have several different copies of your resume, each tailored to a specific focus (for example, one for retail management, one for retail buyer, another for marketing manager, etc etc)

To a person, the hiring manager to be specific. I once got a job by calling
the receptionist at a company I wanted to send a resume to. I told her I had
to send some material to the director of development, but lost his name and
extension. My boss was going to kill me! I figured, worst case if the
receptionist did not bite, I would be an anonymous goof ball.

* Speaking of resumes, how is yours? You realize most don't even get read. People make the mistake of agonizing over silly details - the resume has one purpose, and one purpose only - to make your phone ring. That's it. In other words, tell them what they want to hear.

There is a book called Knock 'Em Dead which is fairly good with job hunting
that covers many of the things jwb is mentioning.

* Use this time wisely. If you haven't posted your resume to every online service you can think of, well... why haven't you? Most of them can be tailored to send you job openings in your field via e-mail everyday. * Use this time wisely #2 - Learn something. If you don't know HTML, learn it. Learning to make and upload webpages is one of the most important skills you can learn... why? Because you can make a little three page "about Brian" website, and direct employers there. It's stuff like this that got me hired over more qualified people more than once. * do something *every single day* related to getting a job. And I don't mean circle want ads. * get out there and talk to people. Go to companies you'd like to work at and try to make an appointment with the supervisor of the department you'd like to work in. Say "I'm looking for a job, and I just wanted to introduce myself to you" * don't sleep late. Your competition isn't. I've done all of the above when looking for work. Always remember that there are people like me competing with you. People willing to do that much more. The people who send resumes and wait for a call will never, ever beat a person like that.

[GGGNH]

In article <lis1e1hk21cb8hfu8028r43ln8dsug1tcm@4ax.com>,
B. Chamberlin <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:52:26 -0400, "dejablues" <deja.blues@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, it pays a whopping $316 a week and I haven't gotten a check yet.

I was unemployment 18 months ago, for 3 months. Luckily, I filed in
Maine and not New Hampshire. They paid a max of $198 a week, Maine paid
$256.

See http://www.claiminformation.com/unem...p.htm#benefits

GGG

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[cbg]

There's no such thing as an "average" time to find a new job. It varies wildly depending on the region of the country and what you are qualified to do.

However, in the current job market in most places, two weeks is nothing. You can probablyexpect it to take several months.

[Emma Anne]

B. Chamberlin <jbrianchamberlin@adelphia.net> wrote:

What's the average length of time it takes someone to find work? I may be an idiot when it comes to marriage, but I was a good employee except for that last infraction. I'm surprised I've not heard anything by now. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks.

I don't know, but I've heard Craig's List is a good place to look - free
to employee.