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    In article <8Vkpd.9591v1.8497@trnddc06> bangporn <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in messagenews:MPG.1c0fc237e499e25798987b@news.indivi dual.net...
    >> > Well, I've lived in three countries (and visited a few other) so far >> > and >> > I'd rather die than move back to America. At least there's no >> > starving >> > children in Sweden. >> There should be no starving children in America. If they are >> starving >> then their parents are abusing them. > Yeah, and there are no homeless people and everyone is happy etc. You > really live in a dreamworld, don't you? Gal it seems you learned little while living here. The homeless, largely are mentally ill people, many of which were in institutions that cared for them, but "civil rights lawyers" insisted they be let go. You are speaking of people who can't function. http://www.nationalhomeless.org/families.html
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    My worldline is not unified under a single government but I would say
    it is closer to a unified purpose. Isn't that what you want anyway?
    How do you explain all the homeless families in your little paradise? Are they all mentally ill?All? No, but mostly.
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    http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...homeless_x.htmLike I said - there are also homeless in Europe.
    Would you like to say more about your dreams?
    Is poor people mentally ill too?Some are
    The Arab Jews are not directly involved but political situations are
    dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.
    And lets go back to the starving children in America you seem to think only exist if they have abusive parents. I guess poor people are not only mentally ill according to you, but they also have to be abusive parents:There are many programs in America that would feed those children and dofeed many children. Have you ever seen the "poor" children in America? Maybeyou MISS that we have a serious problem with "OBESITY" in those children inAmerica. I have had this debate before with some American whiners aboutpoverty. You really need to visit aplace where there REALLY IS poverty. LikeCuba....... You might understand that the average meal for one of those"POOR American children" is more than even a better off Cuban child gets intwo days to eat. They look at that poverty as a FEAST!
    You are not very firm on that.
    http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/...candidates.htmOh great political statements How enlightening. Tell me, do YOUactuyally believe everything the politicians in Sweden feed you?
    Sometimes they do.
    And PLEASE don't bull**** me that there are no homeless in Europe.. I have been in Europe several times and SEEN them on streets, by the train stations (Banhofs in Germany) in parks PLEASE PLEASE spare me the bull**** of the Euopean utopia.
    Did I ever say that we don't have homeless people in Europe?
    You sort of suggested that Europe was better. I have SEEN hunger upclose and personal in the third world. I don't think you really have. Thethree countries you have lived in apparently are pretty comfortable places.
    Why are you happy you do not think they really have?
    >> But I imagine that happens even in the People's Republic of Sweden. I >> am >> not sure we need you, we have plenty of >> women who sit around *****ing endlessly about "poor me."
    > Fuuny, you ***** and moan about your ex-wife, that's ok, but if a woman > mention anything about an ex-husband, she's "*****ing and moaning". > And where did I ask if you need me or not, and why should I even care? No little girl I have never mentioned my ex wife. That is your delusion that I must have. Thank God she is nothing like you..... But then if she was I never would have married her. So you've never mentioned your ex's? I guess it wasn't you who wrote all this. Btw, do your ex-wife know you're telling the entire world really intimate, personal details of her life? "Yes, it wasn't easy to get my first wife's parental rights terminated. Her alcoholism, child abuse, drug abuse, and kidnapping of the children sort of left the court no choice."
    Is that "complaining" about her? That was stating facts.
    I have no idea what happens to you in your future. There was a
    resistance on my worldline but their goal was to maintain power and
    control over other people. We killed most of them by 2020.
    "My second wife also had a dysfunctional childhood, but was much smarter and better educated. The marriage was really good until a mid life crisis hit her. The sad thing is you can't force somebody to get psychological help just because they have snapped and now are a different person where they turn on their family, church and life and want to go 90 degrees in a different direction. When they come to their senses and straighten out it is too late."Is that complaining about what she did to me? Or is it speaking of whatshe did to herself. However - that was from a completely different thread.
    Instinct is stronger than upbringing.
    "My ex wife has done evil things to me" "Most all of the stuff I had fromthat time was destroyed by an angry ex wife."My first wife. Yep she destroyed by original high school and collegediplomas, all the memorabilia I had.
    Are you positive?
    "My ex wife had a violent first marriage, we had a tranquil relationship, and now she is in another relationship where the guy beats her senseless because it is Tuesday and LOVES it. Go figure! I am told; "He's SOOOOOO exciting!" But now she can ***** about men all day and all night to her friends. She's one of the girls again!"A sad truth is that she felt that way. It took getting beatenunconscious to make her end that romance. She's on another. Oh and thathappened after we split.
    Hmmm ... kinda adds a new meaning to the word ... oh ... never
    mind.
    "It isn't all about you. God you are like my ex wife who actually believes everything in this world is all about her!" "Ha ha. You know - - - I actually get along with my ex now that I don't have to deal with her bull**** on a daily basis. Some other poor ******* is holding the bag. Kind of reminds me of the jerk my first wife married after we were divorced. Now the second one thinking he was with a renaissance woman instead of an old woman losing a battle with her mid life crisis. He has to deal with it. I just laugh. I got a better one now."She's on her seco
    Do you have many friends?
    "Tell you (from personal experience - 2nd wife) that you can postpone the problems from childhood abuse, but without serious therapy you are sitting on a bomb that will go off someday. For my ex it hit a few years ago. She hit a mid-life crisis that was an a-bomb in her life. We are great friends today - but she has so much baggage that she is often completely dysfunctional. She still comes to me for comfort but it is like being sucked dry through a straw up your ***. She still can't face that she needs therapy. Stubborn Irish. We had 20 great years and 2 horrible ones. She knows she can't put her life in reverse, and that's the pity to see somebody you have loved in such pain and confusion, but you know you can't fix it for them. So your life goes on. But those 20 years were great. It is nice that we can both look back on those years fondly and share memories almost all of which are heart warming. She has demons to fight. I hope that some day she beats them."Where in there do I play victim? Where do I attack her or belittle her?
    Where do you ask if you attack her or belittle her?
    "My first wife was a drunk and druggie"And it cost her her life.
    Life is a bridge. Cross over it, but build no house on it.
    "I also filed for divorce from my ex wife. It would be too easy to say it was because of "her actions." It was , but.. That's all too easy. She hit her mid-life and her childhood caught up with her. Abuse and a gang rape at age 15. She ran away from home and got into an extremely abusive first marriage, and then went straight from that to being married to me. Was she happy? Yes. She still will not say a bad thing about me. She is a bird floating on the wind. She is living 100% for herself right now. She had a boob job, bought a new muscle car convertible - is travelling and living a bit wild. AT 50 she is doing what she should have at 20. Oh how easy it is to play the blame game. Was it painful? After 22 years - you bet. But - I can look back and find the good parts. It should have lasted. But sometimes it just isn't up to the two people."Do you think getting a divorce after 22 years is easy or painless? Therecomes events beyond the control of either person. She had her childhood comecrashing in on her. It started with acting out (being angry) and thenneeding to be someplace else. She is still confused because she went from meto living with one guy then another. How long the second one will last is anissue for speculation. But wer had 20 GREAT years. Two that were not sogreat. But I know it is impossible for you to understand - we are friendstoday.

    >> The thing about divorce is that it places a fork in the road in >> front >> of >> us. We have choices. We can get better, or in YOUR case we can get >> BITTER! > What on earth gave you the idea that I'm bitter?
    Oh I don't know, maybe the things you say. Like what? That he hasn't paid childsupport? That he didn't want to have any contact with our daughter? How is stating a fact making me sound bitter?
    Look at how you try to distort what I have said. You complain about yourex - I don't speak of my ex in terms of what she DID to me, but in terms ofwhat she has done to herself, and then I place it in context of herchildhood and experiences. I don't call her a BAD woman at all. My firstwife had a problem with alcohol and drugs that eventually cost her her life.She did some bad things but she had a problem with dugs and alcohol.
    Are you thinking that you do not call her a bad woman at all?
    > I live with the man I love and I gave birth to two perfect little boys > in may and I have a wonderful 10 year old daughter, which means my life > is pretty good right now. Good, now stop *****ing about your ex.........
    I could say the same about you.
    You could but I am not "*****ing" about either of them. One is dead theother is a woman with a bunch of personal demons but who I still care forand who still cares for me. She just has to be where she is today. Oh and ifyou miss it, I loved her enough to let her go and go through what she must.I have never said she was an evil woman, I didn't even say my first wife wasevil, just that she did some evil things like destroying every piece ofpersonal stuff I had and every memory I had and she abused the kids. Butthen again I place that in context of the drugs and alcohol causing it. Shecame from a family where drugs were - well everywhere, which I did not knowuntil I had been married to her for a couple years. I see both of my wivesas victims. It is hard to be bitter about a person whose problems cost herher life.
    Oh, you are, are you?
    >> I have loads of cause to be angry with my ex wife - and then to >> generalize >> that on all women. I have accepted the events under the general >> heading of >> "**** happens" and choose NOT to wallow in it like you obviously do. > So that's why I've read lots of posts where you ***** about how your ex > dumped you? Your small brain, she didn't dump" me. But you NEED to believe that was the way it was. The posts you have read are NOT from me, or you are just a pathetic liar. >> I have managed to move on and have remarried and as bad as it may >> have >> seemed when >> the break happened, I came out the winner. Too bad she hasn't. Maybe >> can't.
    > I'd say she came out the winner. She dumped you, didn't she? No she didn't. But if you NEED to believe it you can. I have never said why the marriage ended. You are eithger confusing me with somebody else or LYING your *** off. Not surprising for such a BITTER BITTER woman! I just read a post where you said exactly why the marriage ended. You just can't keep up with your own posts, can you.
    You have a serious reading problem. Nowhere in that does it state thatshe dumped me. She was unhappy in her life - she wasn't a nice person to bearound for a long while - and FYI it was I who filed for divorce. She neededto be free and I loved her enough to let her go. And again, FYI, she isn'treal happy now. She has loads of regrets, but she has a LONG way to go tosort out her life. Right now it is all about her being selfish. That's okayyou'd have to understand her life up to that point. I do. it is and was amid life crisis. She's trying hard to grow up and go over ground she shouldhave 30 years ago. She's smart and she'll work it out, and may have a fewbruises, but she is a strong woman. Unlike YOU she doesn't sit and *****al;l day and all night and get on the internet *****ing about her exhusband. She'd tell you like she tells others that she still loves me.
    Similarly, the current mi abuse goes against the grain of British self
    image as being reserved and decent, since they are using terms of
    abuse which are common among blacks and other supposedly less
    developed races, but not among the English.
    > Smart woman.
    Yes she is. Much smarter than a woman like you and one that doesn't sit around *****ing about her ex-husband. In fact she tells people she regrets that the marriage ended. You are such a CLUELESS BIMBO.............. My ex and I parted on very good terms. I have lots of reasons to be angry with her, but I loved her and understood what happened to her. Things happen in people's lives that everyone regrets. Some people face it and get bitter others like me choose to get BETTER! Let us know when you actually manage to get better, because it doesn't seem like you've succeeded so far.
    Ha! You are the one *****ING endlessly about your ex. I think MY ex isone hell of a woman even though we had some hard times. I understand her andI understand why. I have moved on, she's slipping and sliding in her liferight now because it is what she NEEDS to do. She's doing at 50 what sheshould have at 20. I have no problem with that, why do you?
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    I heard krp, web2457k@verizon.net say something silly like...
    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message news:MPG.1c0fc237e499e25798987b@news.individual.ne t...
    >> > Well, I've lived in three countries (and visited a few other) so far >> > and >> > I'd rather die than move back to America. At least there's no >> > starving >> > children in Sweden. >> There should be no starving children in America. If they are >> starving >> then their parents are abusing them. > Yeah, and there are no homeless people and everyone is happy etc. You > really live in a dreamworld, don't you? Gal it seems you learned little while living here. The homeless, largely are mentally ill people, many of which were in institutions that cared for them, but "civil rights lawyers" insisted they be let go. You are speaking of people who can't function. http://www.nationalhomeless.org/families.html
    I hate to tell you this but that is an "activist" grou-p with an ax to grind. Not the most reliable source.
    So? It doesn't mean they're wrong, or do you claim there are no homeless
    families in the U.S?
    How do you explain all the homeless families in your little paradise? Are they all mentally ill? All? No, but mostly.
    Yeah, I'm sure you think anyone who is poor must also be mentally ill.
    I mean, everyone in the U.S is born rich and happy...
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...homeless_x.htm Like I said - there are also homeless in Europe.
    So?
    Is poor people mentally ill too? Some are. The issue isn't as simplistic as you would like to have it.
    I wasn't the one claiming that homeless are mentally ill and that only
    children who have abusive parents starve in the U.S.
    You just don't like to admit that your paradise have problems.
    A part of this is that some people chose to screw off when they were in school and not get an education. Other chose drugs. So society picks up the tab. The problem of people who have been displaced from jobs would be much easier to manage for a society but for having to carry the weight of those who refuse to carry their own, preferring their FIX on whatever it is that is their drug of choice.
    So now anyone who's homeless is mentally ill or druggies?
    I can understand why you'd like to believe that. If they've done
    something to deserve to be homeless, you don't really have to do
    anything to help them, do you...
    And lets go back to the starving children in America you seem to think only exist if they have abusive parents. I guess poor people are not only mentally ill according to you, but they also have to be abusive parents: There are many programs in America that would feed those children and do feed many children. Have you ever seen the "poor" children in America?
    Yes, I have seen them. I've travelled through West Virginia a few times
    and I couldn't believe what I saw. A country so rich and that care so
    little about the weak and poor. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    Maybe you MISS that we have a serious problem with "OBESITY" in those children in America.
    So just because you have lots of fat kids in America, we should just
    ignore the ones who starve? I guess that would solve the problem, just
    let them starve to death.
    I have had this debate before with some American whiners about poverty. You really need to visit aplace where there REALLY IS poverty. Like Cuba.......
    Maybe you should visit some of the poor people in your own country.
    You might understand that the average meal for one of those "POOR American children" is more than even a better off Cuban child gets in two days to eat. They look at that poverty as a FEAST!
    And I'm sure the kids in Ethiopia would consider the Cuban kids meal
    as a feast. So what?
    http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/...candidates.htm Oh great political statements How enlightening. Tell me, do YOU actuyally believe everything the politicians in Sweden feed you?
    So you can't believe activists, anything a politician says must be
    untrue etc... who do you trust?
    I sure as hell don't believe anything you say.
    And PLEASE don't bull**** me that there are no homeless in Europe.. I have been in Europe several times and SEEN them on streets, by the train stations (Banhofs in Germany) in parks PLEASE PLEASE spare me the bull**** of the Euopean utopia.
    Did I ever say that we don't have homeless people in Europe?
    You sort of suggested that Europe was better.
    It is better in lots of ways, but it's not perfect.
    I have SEEN hunger up close and personal in the third world. I don't think you really have. The three countries you have lived in apparently are pretty comfortable places.
    I also said I've visited other countries. You seem to think that just
    because you married a cuban and been there a few times, you know
    everything that goes on everywhere.
    >> But I imagine that happens even in the People's Republic of Sweden. I >> am >> not sure we need you, we have plenty of >> women who sit around *****ing endlessly about "poor me."
    > Fuuny, you ***** and moan about your ex-wife, that's ok, but if a woman > mention anything about an ex-husband, she's "*****ing and moaning". > And where did I ask if you need me or not, and why should I even care? No little girl I have never mentioned my ex wife. That is your delusion that I must have. Thank God she is nothing like you..... But then if she was I never would have married her. So you've never mentioned your ex's? I guess it wasn't you who wrote all this. Btw, do your ex-wife know you're telling the entire world really intimate, personal details of her life? "Yes, it wasn't easy to get my first wife's parental rights terminated. Her alcoholism, child abuse, drug abuse, and kidnapping of the children sort of left the court no choice."
    Is that "complaining" about her? That was stating facts.
    Let me remind you of what you said. "No little girl I have never
    mentioned my ex wife." I proved you wrong on that, so why can't you just
    admit it and move on. I'm not really interested in your pathetic
    personal life. Btw, you sound bitter but you think you're good at hiding
    it. I think most readers can see through that.
    "My second wife also had a dysfunctional childhood, but was much smarter and better educated. The marriage was really good until a mid life crisis hit her. The sad thing is you can't force somebody to get psychological help just because they have snapped and now are a different person where they turn on their family, church and life and want to go 90 degrees in a different direction. When they come to their senses and straighten out it is too late." Is that complaining about what she did to me? Or is it speaking of what she did to herself. However - that was from a completely different thread.
    "My ex wife has done evil things to me" "Most all of the stuff I had fromthat time was destroyed by an angry ex wife."
    My first wife. Yep she destroyed by original high school and college diplomas, all the memorabilia I had.
    "My ex wife had a violent first marriage, we had a tranquil relationship, and now she is in another relationship where the guy beats her senseless because it is Tuesday and LOVES it. Go figure! I am told; "He's SOOOOOO exciting!" But now she can ***** about men all day and all night to her friends. She's one of the girls again!"
    A sad truth is that she felt that way. It took getting beaten unconscious to make her end that romance. She's on another. Oh and that happened after we split.
    "It isn't all about you. God you are like my ex wife who actually believes everything in this world is all about her!" "Ha ha. You know - - - I actually get along with my ex now that I don't have to deal with her bull**** on a daily basis. Some other poor ******* is holding the bag. Kind of reminds me of the jerk my first wife married after we were divorced. Now the second one thinking he was with a renaissance woman instead of an old woman losing a battle with her mid life crisis. He has to deal with it. I just laugh. I got a better one now."
    She's on her second guy after. She and I get along great, she really would like to get back, she has told mutual friends that she knows how badly she screwed up at the end of the marriage. You seem to think that is complaining about it. It was in terms of a discussion on the general subject of divorce. Seems you love to research however.
    "Tell you (from personal experience - 2nd wife) that you can postpone the problems from childhood abuse, but without serious therapy you are sitting on a bomb that will go off someday. For my ex it hit a few years ago. She hit a mid-life crisis that was an a-bomb in her life. We are great friends today - but she has so much baggage that she is often completely dysfunctional. She still comes to me for comfort but it is like being sucked dry through a straw up your ***. She still can't face that she needs therapy. Stubborn Irish. We had 20 great years and 2 horrible ones. She knows she can't put her life in reverse, and that's the pity to see somebody you have loved in such pain and confusion, but you know you can't fix it for them. So your life goes on. But those 20 years were great. It is nice that we can both look back on those years fondly and share memories almost all of which are heart warming. She has demons to fight. I hope that some day she beats them."
    Where in there do I play victim? Where do I attack her or belittle her?
    "My first wife was a drunk and druggie"
    And it cost her her life.
    "I also filed for divorce from my ex wife. It would be too easy to say it was because of "her actions." It was , but.. That's all too easy. She hit her mid-life and her childhood caught up with her. Abuse and a gang rape at age 15. She ran away from home and got into an extremely abusive first marriage, and then went straight from that to being married to me. Was she happy? Yes. She still will not say a bad thing about me. She is a bird floating on the wind. She is living 100% for herself right now. She had a boob job, bought a new muscle car convertible - is travelling and living a bit wild. AT 50 she is doing what she should have at 20. Oh how easy it is to play the blame game. Was it painful? After 22 years - you bet. But - I can look back and find the good parts. It should have lasted. But sometimes it just isn't up to the two people."
    Do you think getting a divorce after 22 years is easy or painless? There comes events beyond the control of either person. She had her childhood come crashing in on her. It started with acting out (being angry) and then needing to be someplace else. She is still confused because she went from me to living with one guy then another. How long the second one will last is an issue for speculation. But wer had 20 GREAT years. Two that were not so great. But I know it is impossible for you to understand - we are friends today.
    >> The thing about divorce is that it places a fork in the road in >> front >> of >> us. We have choices. We can get better, or in YOUR case we can get >> BITTER! > What on earth gave you the idea that I'm bitter? Oh I don't know, maybe the things you say. Like what? That he hasn't paid childsupport? That he didn't want to have any contact with our daughter? How is stating a fact making me sound bitter?
    Look at how you try to distort what I have said. You complain about your ex -
    Stating facts are complaining? I've also said that I'm grateful to him
    because without him I wouldn't have our wonderful daughter in my life.
    I don't speak of my ex in terms of what she DID to me, but in terms of what she has done to herself, and then I place it in context of her childhood and experiences. I don't call her a BAD woman at all. My first wife had a problem with alcohol and drugs that eventually cost her her life. She did some bad things but she had a problem with dugs and alcohol.
    I may not care much about my ex, but at least I have enough respect for
    him to not post extremely personal details about his life. You show
    absolute no respect for your ex-wife when you do that, unless she's
    given you permission to do that.
    > I live with the man I love and I gave birth to two perfect little boys > in may and I have a wonderful 10 year old daughter, which means my life > is pretty good right now. Good, now stop *****ing about your ex.........
    I could say the same about you.
    You could but I am not "*****ing" about either of them. One is dead the other is a woman with a bunch of personal demons but who I still care for and who still cares for me. She just has to be where she is today. Oh and if you miss it, I loved her enough to let her go and go through what she must. I have never said she was an evil woman, I didn't even say my first wife was evil, just that she did some evil things like destroying every piece of personal stuff I had and every memory I had and she abused the kids. But then again I place that in context of the drugs and alcohol causing it. She came from a family where drugs were - well everywhere, which I did not know until I had been married to her for a couple years. I see both of my wives as victims. It is hard to be bitter about a person whose problems cost her her life.
    You see, I don't really care about your life and the bad choices you've
    made, so stop whining about them.
    >> I have loads of cause to be angry with my ex wife - and then to >> generalize >> that on all women. I have accepted the events under the general >> heading of >> "**** happens" and choose NOT to wallow in it like you obviously do. > So that's why I've read lots of posts where you ***** about how your ex > dumped you? Your small brain, she didn't dump" me. But you NEED to believe that was the way it was. The posts you have read are NOT from me, or you are just a pathetic liar. >> I have managed to move on and have remarried and as bad as it may >> have >> seemed when >> the break happened, I came out the winner. Too bad she hasn't. Maybe >> can't.
    > I'd say she came out the winner. She dumped you, didn't she? No she didn't. But if you NEED to believe it you can. I have never said why the marriage ended. You are eithger confusing me with somebody else or LYING your *** off. Not surprising for such a BITTER BITTER woman! I just read a post where you said exactly why the marriage ended. You just can't keep up with your own posts, can you.
    You have a serious reading problem. Nowhere in that does it state that she dumped me. She was unhappy in her life - she wasn't a nice person to be around for a long while - and FYI it was I who filed for divorce. She needed to be free and I loved her enough to let her go. And again, FYI, she isn't real happy now. She has loads of regrets, but she has a LONG way to go to sort out her life. Right now it is all about her being selfish. That's okay you'd have to understand her life up to that point. I do. it is and was a mid life crisis. She's trying hard to grow up and go over ground she should have 30 years ago. She's smart and she'll work it out, and may have a few bruises, but she is a strong woman. Unlike YOU she doesn't sit and ***** al;l day and all night and get on the internet *****ing about her ex husband. She'd tell you like she tells others that she still loves me.
    Oh my god, you're trying to bore me to death!
    > Smart woman.
    Yes she is. Much smarter than a woman like you and one that doesn't sit around *****ing about her ex-husband. In fact she tells people she regrets that the marriage ended. You are such a CLUELESS BIMBO.............. My ex and I parted on very good terms. I have lots of reasons to be angry with her, but I loved her and understood what happened to her. Things happen in people's lives that everyone regrets. Some people face it and get bitter others like me choose to get BETTER! Let us know when you actually manage to get better, because it doesn't seem like you've succeeded so far.
    Ha! You are the one *****ING endlessly about your ex. I think MY ex is one hell of a woman even though we had some hard times. I understand her and I understand why. I have moved on, she's slipping and sliding in her life right now because it is what she NEEDS to do. She's doing at 50 what she should have at 20. I have no problem with that, why do you?
    You must be joking!

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    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message
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    > >> > Well, I've lived in three countries (and visited a few other) so> >> > far and> >> > I'd rather die than move back to America. At least there's no> >> > starving> >> > children in Sweden.
    > >> There should be no starving children in America. If they are> >> starving> >> then their parents are abusing them.
    > > Yeah, and there are no homeless people and everyone is happy etc.> > You> > really live in a dreamworld, don't you?
    > Gal it seems you learned little while living here. The homeless,> largely> are mentally ill people, many of which were in institutions that cared> for> them, but "civil rights lawyers" insisted they be let go. You are> speaking> of people who can't function.
    http://www.nationalhomeless.org/families.html
    I hate to tell you this but that is an "activist" group with an ax to grind. Not the most reliable source.
    So? It doesn't mean they're wrong, or do you claim there are no homeless families in the U.S?
    It sure as hell doesn't mean they are right. The "Homeless"
    organizations in the U.S. have been caught in quite a few fabrications.
    How do you explain all the homeless families in your little paradise? Are they all mentally ill?
    All? No, but mostly.
    Yeah, I'm sure you think anyone who is poor must also be mentally ill. I mean, everyone in the U.S is born rich and happy...
    You are really a smart ***. No wonder your husband dumped you and is
    hiding from you.
    Like I said - there are also homeless in Europe.
    So?
    Is poor people mentally ill too?
    Some are. The issue isn't as simplistic as you would like to have it.
    I wasn't the one claiming that homeless are mentally ill and that only children who have abusive parents starve in the U.S. You just don't like to admit that your paradise have problems.
    The FACTS dear those **** FACTS say thta most of them are mentally ill.
    It is a FACT no matter how NASTY you choose to be about it. About 20 years
    ago civil rights lawyers sued the states to let almost all the mentally ill
    people in institusions go. And the GENIUSES at those law firms never stopped
    to wonder HOW the people would support themselves. So in the abundance of
    heart wrenchly bleeing concern tens of thousands of people being cared for
    were turned out on the streets to fed for themselves and
    DIE.................. WOW! This society WAS caring for them. We even had
    nurses to wash them when they **** all over themselves. NOW........ with all
    out bleeding heart compassion they just DIE.............
    A part of this is that some people chose to screw off when they were in school and not get an education. Other chose drugs. So society picks up the tab. The problem of people who have been displaced from jobs would be much easier to manage for a society but for having to carry the weight of those who refuse to carry their own, preferring their FIX on whatever it is that is their drug of choice.
    So now anyone who's homeless is mentally ill or druggies? I can understand why you'd like to believe that. If they've done something to deserve to be homeless, you don't really have to do anything to help them, do you...
    ALl? Maybe not. Most? Hell yes. And the SAME is true in Europe. You just
    CAN'T seem to separate recognizing the REAL problems those HUMAN BEINGS have
    from BLAMING them for it. Blame isn't the issue. It is seeing the mental
    illness (and drug abuse is a form of mental problems) and TREATING it the
    best way possible. In an appropriate and compassionate institution.
    And lets go back to the starving children in America you seem to think only exist if they have abusive parents. I guess poor people are not only mentally ill according to you, but they also have to be abusive parents:
    There are many programs in America that would feed those children and do feed many children. Have you ever seen the "poor" children in America?
    Yes, I have seen them. I've travelled through West Virginia a few times and I couldn't believe what I saw. A country so rich and that care so little about the weak and poor. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    AGAIN oh uneducable one - there ARE programs to make sure those children
    are clothed and fed. Youn have this **** high horse santimoneous view of
    Europe... Some people CHOOSE to "live like that." Shocking as that might be.
    In THIS county people ahve the RIGHT to live like that if they choose. Some
    do. Again programs exist to provide food and clothing as well as adequate
    shelter. But you have people who have lived in those mountains of Apalachia
    for generations who choose to live the way generations of their predecessors
    did. Maybe IF you had half a brain you might know that one of the biggest
    problems among the poor in America is OBESITY!
    Maybe you MISS that we have a serious problem with "OBESITY" in those children in America.
    So just because you have lots of fat kids in America, we should just ignore the ones who starve? I guess that would solve the problem, just let them starve to death.
    AGAIN what you lack enough moyive brain cells to understand is that
    there is NO NEED for ANY child in America to starve. There are programs that
    more than adequately provide for their needs. That their parents REFUSE to
    make use of them reflects on thos eparents NOT this society.
    I have had this debate before with some American whiners about poverty. You really need to visit aplace where there REALLY IS poverty. Like Cuba.......
    Maybe you should visit some of the poor people in your own country.
    You mindless twit - I have done BOTH.
    You might understand that the average meal for one of those "POOR American children" is more than even a better off Cuban child gets in two days to eat. They look at that poverty as a FEAST!
    And I'm sure the kids in Ethiopia would consider the Cuban kids meal as a feast. So what?
    You are cluless.
    Oh great political statements How enlightening. Tell me, do YOU
    actually believe everything the politicians in Sweden feed you?
    So you can't believe activists, anything a politician says must be untrue etc... who do you trust? I sure as hell don't believe anything you say.
    Unlike YOU ---- dearie ------- I question EVERYTHING from sources with a
    decided ax to grind.
    I have SEEN hunger up close and personal in the third world. I don't think you really have. The three countries you have lived in apparently are pretty comfortable places.
    I also said I've visited other countries. You seem to think that just because you married a cuban and been there a few times, you know everything that goes on everywhere.
    ` No I don't base everthing on the fact my wife is Cuban. I base it on
    having traveled many places in this world including Europe. I could show you
    thinks in Mexico that are shocking. And while you launch on your endless
    diatribes about Ethopia and Somalia whith your **** HOLIER THEN THOU
    attitude, MAYBE you might know why those people are still starving when the
    WORLD has tried so hard to provide them food......... BUT you are so hell
    bent on being SUPERIOR I bet you refuse to see why.
    "Yes, it wasn't easy to get my first wife's parental rights terminated. Her alcoholism, child abuse, drug abuse, and kidnapping of the children sort of left the court no choice."
    Is that "complaining" about her? That was stating facts. Let me remind you of what you said. "No little girl I have never mentioned my ex wife." I proved you wrong on that, so why can't you just admit it and move on. I'm not really interested in your pathetic personal life. Btw, you sound bitter but you think you're good at hiding it. I think most readers can see through that.
    I never mentioned her in the context of THIS thread. You had to LOOK
    elsewhere to get that stuff. I am not bitter at all. If I am hiding it I am
    doing such a good job I have hidden it from myself.
    Ha! You are the one *****ING endlessly about your ex. I think MY ex is one hell of a woman even though we had some hard times. I understand her and I understand why. I have moved on, she's slipping and sliding in her life right now because it is what she NEEDS to do. She's doing at 50 what she should have at 20. I have no problem with that, why do you?
    You must be joking!
    Nope that's the sad truth for her. How do I know? I am still her best
    friend and still have the shoulder for her.






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    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message
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    Oh, I care about what lots of people think, like my friends and family. I don't care about what someone who show no disregard to his daughters feelings, feel however. And no, I really don't care about the feelings of soc.men, so sue me.
    How many of those people hear from your ex his side of the story? I remember a long time ago, when I was in a singles group right after my first divorce, listening to women saying the same things you are saying. About how lousy their exes were, how they didn't want to be dads and the like. Because my work had me in the courthouse almost every day, I decided to look at their divorce files.
    You're really a creep. You don't have any moral or ethics as far as I can tell.
    Oh really. You ANGRILY deny that you are bitter at your ex. And you say
    things like; "I don't care about what someone who showed no disregard to his
    daughters feelings, feel however." You condemn me for talking about my ex -
    YET while I discuss her problems you don't see me saying "she had no regard
    of the feelings of others" When I said my first wife destroyed by diplomas
    and the like I was stating a fact not condemning her for it. I did say she
    did some evil things just not that SHE was evil.

    As to my morals - - - I kept my wedding vows - I didn't abuse my wife or
    my kids.............I didn't steal or break the law. I have kept my word to
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    krp wrote:
    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message news:MPG.1c11857770525207989884@news.individual.ne t...
    AGAIN oh uneducable one - there ARE programs to make sure those children are clothed and fed. Youn have this **** high horse santimoneous view of Europe... Some people CHOOSE to "live like that." Shocking as that might be. In THIS county people ahve the RIGHT to live like that if they choose. Some do. Again programs exist to provide food and clothing as well as adequate shelter. But you have people who have lived in those mountains of Apalachia for generations who choose to live the way generations of their predecessors did. Maybe IF you had half a brain you might know that one of the biggest problems among the poor in America is OBESITY!
    Poverty USA: The State of
    Poverty in America

    For the second consecutive year, the poverty rate and the number of
    Americans living in poverty both rose from the prior years. Since 2000,
    the number of poor Americans has grown by 3 million. The official
    poverty rate in 2002 (the most current year for which figures are
    available) was 12.1 percent, up from 11.7 percent in 2001. Total
    Americans below the official poverty thresholds numbered 34.6 million, a
    figure 1.7 million higher than the 32.9 million in poverty in 2001.
    (U.S. Census Bureau, Poverty in the United States: 2002, Current
    Population Reports, September 2003.)

    On average, one out of every three Americans - 34.2 percent of all
    people in the United States - are officially classified as living in
    poverty at least 2 months out of the year. (U.S. Census Bureau, Dynamics
    of Economic Well-Being: Poverty 1996-1999, July 2003.)

    The number of Americans living in severe poverty - with incomes below
    half of the poverty line - increased by 600,000 in 2002, to 14.1
    million. (U.S. Census Bureau, Poverty in the United States: 2002,
    Current Population Reports, September 2003.)

    Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from "food
    insecurity" and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults
    and more than one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived
    in households experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food
    for basic nourishment - compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million
    in 1999. (U.S. Department of Agriculture, Household Food Security in the
    United States, 2002, October 2003.)

    The Midwest experienced the greatest increase in poverty rates, rising
    from 9.4 percent in 2001 to 10.3 percent in 2002 - yet the American
    South still had the highest poverty rate at 13.8 percent. The South had
    a disproportionately large share of those in poverty: 40.6 percent,
    compared with 35.6 percent of all people. And the American suburbs saw
    the highest rise in poverty, from 12.1 million and 8.2 percent in 2001
    to 13.3 million and 8.9 percent in 2002. (U.S. Census Bureau, Poverty in
    the United States: 2002, Current Population Reports, September 2003.)

    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a
    responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that
    government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to
    work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell,
    Perry & Associates, January 2002.)
    http://www.usccb.org/cchd/povertyusa/povfacts.htm


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    "Xenos the elder" <dimitrioxeno@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    AGAIN oh uneducable one - there ARE programs to make sure those children are clothed and fed. Youn have this **** high horse santimoneous view of Europe... Some people CHOOSE to "live like that." Shocking as that might be. In THIS county people ahve the RIGHT to live like that if they choose. Some do. Again programs exist to provide food and clothing as well as adequate shelter. But you have people who have lived in those mountains of Apalachia for generations who choose to live the way generations of their predecessors did. Maybe IF you had half a brain you might know that one of the biggest problems among the poor in America is OBESITY! Poverty USA: The State of Poverty in America For the second consecutive year, the poverty rate and the number of Americans living in poverty both rose from the prior years. Since 2000, the number of poor Americans has grown by 3 million. The official poverty rate in 2002 (the most current year for which figures are available) was 12.1 percent, up from 11.7 percent in 2001. Total Americans below the official poverty thresholds numbered 34.6 million, a figure 1.7 million higher than the 32.9 million in poverty in 2001. (U.S. Census Bureau, Poverty in the United States: 2002, Current Population Reports, September 2003.)
    Compare poverty levels in America to poverty levels in the 3rd world.
    In much of the world even the middle class would LOVE to live as well as
    Americans living in poverty.

    The number of Americans living in severe poverty - with incomes below half of the poverty line - increased by 600,000 in 2002, to 14.1 million. (U.S. Census Bureau, Poverty in the United States: 2002, Current Population Reports, September 2003.)
    What is HALF the poverty line in America? Poverty line seen today as
    $18,000 a year. Now what is thr TOP anual income for employed people in Cuba
    for example??





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    krp wrote:
    "Xenos the elder" <dimitrioxeno@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:41A7A7FF.4060608@yahoo.com...
    AGAIN oh uneducable one - there ARE programs to make sure thosechildren are clothed and fed. Youn have this **** high horse santimoneousview of Europe... Some people CHOOSE to "live like that." Shocking asthat might be. In THIS county people ahve the RIGHT to live like that ifthey choose. Some do. Again programs exist to provide food and clothingas well as adequate shelter. But you have people who have lived in thosemountains of Apalachia for generations who choose to live the waygenerations of their predecessors did. Maybe IF you had half a brain youmight know that one of the biggest problems among the poor in America isOBESITY!Poverty USA: The State ofPoverty in AmericaFor the second consecutive year, the poverty rate and the number ofAmericans living in poverty both rose from the prior years. Since 2000,the number of poor Americans has grown by 3 million. The official povertyrate in 2002 (the most current year for which figures are available) was12.1 percent, up from 11.7 percent in 2001. Total Americans below theofficial poverty thresholds numbered 34.6 million, a figure 1.7 millionhigher than the 32.9 million in poverty in 2001. (U.S. Census Bureau,Poverty in the United States: 2002, Current Population Reports, September2003.)
    Compare poverty levels in America to poverty levels in the 3rd world. In much of the world even the middle
    The middle class in India is as rich as a middle class working family in
    France.
    class would LOVE to live as well as Americans living in poverty.
    Compare poverty levels in the 3rd world with the poverty levels in the
    5th world.
    The number of Americans living in severe poverty - with incomes below halfof the poverty line - increased by 600,000 in 2002, to 14.1 million. (U.S.Census Bureau, Poverty in the United States: 2002, Current PopulationReports, September 2003.)
    What is HALF the poverty line in America? Poverty line seen today as $18,000 a year.
    Any link for this figure?
    Now what is thr TOP anual income for employed people in Cuba for example??
    You have to compare income with the costs of living.
    How much food can you buy in China for 5 US dollar and how much food in
    the USA?

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    "Xenos the elder" <dimitrioxeno@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:41A7B50E.9000508@yahoo.com...

    What is HALF the poverty line in America? Poverty line seen today as $18,000 a year.
    Any link for this figure?
    For the love of God I do not know why the BRAINLESS on the internet demand a "LINK" "give me a LINK"... Many "LINKS" are pure bull****. Anyone can create a website and put any bull**** on it or not. There is NO certification service to gurantee that anything you read is true...

    You can start herw with your "LINKS.."

    http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/report.../wagestudy.pdf

    http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00fedreg.htm


    Now read this. The average family for discussion is mother father and 2.5 children...

    2000 Poverty Guidelines for the
    48 Contiguous States and the
    District of Columbia
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Poverty
    Size of family unit guideline
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1................................................. .......... $ 8,350
    2................................................. .......... 11,250
    3................................................. .......... 14,150
    4................................................. .......... 17,050
    5................................................. .......... 19,950
    6................................................. .......... 22,850
    7................................................. .......... 25,750
    8................................................. .......... 28,650
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Now what is the TOP anual income for employed people in Cuba for example??
    You have to compare income with the costs of living. How much food can you buy in China for 5 US dollar and how much food in the USA?
    Now you are playing games here. There are things that are imutable. Here we have a family of 4.5 being ABOUT $18,000 in the U.S. to be at the LINE on Poverty. In Cuba the TOP wage that can be earned is $396.00 A YEAR. You can mastrurbate with cost of living all you want. Of course I will be sitting here laughing my *** off at you along with 90% of the other people reading your insipid argument, but be my guest. Make as big an *** of yourself as you want.

    By the way while you rant and rave.. Very few people make that income in Cuba. The vast majority earn UNDER $30 a year...... You can try to rationalize the DESPERATE DESPERATE POVERTY in America all you like.... The more you do the more you will diminish knowledgeable people's estimate of your intelligence. We can go on to other third world contries in equally dire circumstances. Frankly the average POOR POOR PPOOR child in America weighs about 50% more than the children in this poor third world countries. By the time they are teens they weigh TWICE what their peers in those countires weigh.

    Go to www.buyaclue.com THERE is your LINK.. USE IT!!








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    > Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a
    responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell,
    actually with the prospect of inflation showing up
    the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment
    and keep wages as low as possible

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    mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has aresponsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes thatgovernment should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare towork by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell, actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible arf meow arf cthulu loves you he loves the little children with ketchup please
    Does this mean that those people who are working already now 2 jobs to
    pay the bills have
    to look for a third job?
    The following article is for entertaining porpoise only:

    The dollar, which has been falling against the yen for two months, and
    for much longer against the euro, went into a steeper skid after
    reports that Yu Yongding, a Chinese central bank official, had
    confirmed one of the biggest fear in the currency market: that China
    would slow its purchases of U.S. Treasury securities, which have kept
    the dollar from falling even further, faster. Yu later expressed
    regret over the report and denied that the central bank was altering
    the mix of its currency reserve...

    Geoffrey York, of the Globe and Mail reported this week that in
    Beijing the USA dollar is being sold at a discount. "Everyone is
    converting their dollars to Chinese yan," one black-market trader
    confided as he stood outside a bank in Beijing yesterday. "Our
    business is getting more and more difficult... It's hard to find
    anyone buying U.S. dollars any more. The value of the yuan is
    definitely going to increase," he said. Not long ago, these traders
    had faith in the American dollar as the safest of safe heavens. For
    years, China had survived financial crises by pegging its currency to
    the U.S. dollar.

    But the prolonged slump in the dollar, has created a new phenomenon
    here: the shunning of the greenback. "Nobody with a U.S. dollar
    account can sit quietly at home any longer," said one man in a queue
    at a Bank of China branch yesterday, and then "The black market is a
    sign of the market trends".

    In another front, this week, the Russian central bank said it was
    considering altering its currency holdings, and there has been fevered
    speculation in the financial markets about whether Asian banks, the
    biggest holders of dollar reserves, might follow suit. Any such shift
    could send the dollar sharply lower, given that the United States
    requires a constant inflow of foreign funds to finance its borrowing.
    The ruble shot to its highest level against the dollar in 4 years on
    speculation that the Central Bank is letting the currency appreciate
    in an effort to slow inflation.

    In New York, Stephen Roach, the chief economist at investment banking
    giant Morgan Stanley met select groups of fund managers last week and
    predicts that America has no better than a 10 percent chance of
    avoiding economic "armageddon." The press was not allowed into the
    meetings. But the Herald obtained a copy of Roach's presentation.

    Roach sees a 30 percent chance of a slump soon and a 60 percent chance
    that "we'll muddle through for a while and delay the eventual
    armageddon."

    In a nutshell, Roach's argument is that America's record trade deficit
    means the dollar will keep falling. To keep foreigners buying American
    debt and prevent a resulting rise in inflation, Federal Reserve
    Chairman Alan Greenspan will be forced to raise interest rates further
    and faster than he wants. The result: U.S. consumers, who are in debt
    up to their eyeballs, will get pounded.

    To finance its current account deficit with the rest of the world, he
    said, America has to import $2.6 billion in cash every working day.
    That is an amazing 80 percent of the entire world's net savings.
    Sustainable? Hardly! Meanwhile, he notes that household debt is at
    record levels.




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    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
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    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell,
    actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible
    But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines, free
    lunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM!




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    In article <PK_pd.1689$6o5.573@trnddc08>, "krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mair_fheal-FC16AB.02555127112004@corp.supernews.com...
    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell, actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible
    But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines, free lunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM!
    is that worse than a virtual slave under capitialism?

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    In article <PK_pd.1689o5.573@trnddc08> kenny kakes <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
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    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell, actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible
    But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines, freelunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM!
    I always wanted to be a troubleshooter but now I see you are not worth
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    knoxy <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message news:<MPG.1bf9ce8a201b2155989860@news.individual.n et>...
    I heard krp, web2457k@verizon.net say something silly like...
    "knoxy" <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote in message news:MPG.1bf3508bad23066c989859@news.individual.ne t...
    > >> Again, not where I come from. You'll get childsupport (approx. $165 a> >> month) and that's about it.> >>> >> > You live in India,... or Mississippi?> > I paid twice that per *week*, and my collar's blue as hell.> > Yer a nut.>>> I wonder if her ex husband has two brown teeth in his head or three.> So just because we didn't get divorced in America, where they have even freakier divorce laws than in Sweden, you assume he must be poor with bad teeth? Tsk!
    In the US with $165 a month child support he's have to be a redneck living in a trailer park. But now that you reveal that you are in that Socialist paradise I can only wonder why you need so much money?
    Well, Sweden has really high living expenses, socialist paradise or not. Food is expensive, rent is high etc. Thank god I don't live there anymore.

    The amount of living expenses is correlated to the standard of living.
    That's why places such as Switzerland, Japan and Norway are VERY
    expensive while places like Russia and Belarus are very cheap in
    living expenses.

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    In article <ezNpd.93z5.12@trnddc06> pangbore <web2457k@verizon.net>
    wrote:
    Oh really. You ANGRILY deny that you are bitter at your ex. And you saythings like; "I don't care about what someone who showed no disregard to hisdaughters feelings, feel however." You condemn me for talking about my ex -YET while I discuss her problems you don't see me saying "she had no regardof the feelings of others" When I said my first wife destroyed by diplomasand the like I was stating a fact not condemning her for it. I did say shedid some evil things just not that SHE was evil.
    They are only pretending to be bitter at their ex. What is it to you?
    As to my morals - - - I kept my wedding vows - I didn't abuse my wife ormy kids.............I didn't steal or break the law. I have kept my word topeople and to my family. At least they believe I have.
    Well, it seems you've made somewhat of a quantum leap here. Do you do
    that on a regular basis. Or is this time special?

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    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
    <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    In article <PK_pd.1689$6o5.573@trnddc08>, "krp" <web2457k@verizon.net>
    wrote:
    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mair_fheal-FC16AB.02555127112004@corp.supernews.com...
    > Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a> responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that> government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare
    to
    > work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell,
    actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible
    But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines,
    free
    lunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM! is that worse than a virtual slave under capitialism?

    Under capitalism you have a choice, under socialism you do NOT!



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    In article <xR3qd.1018$M57.872@trnddc01> bangporn
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    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:mair_fheal-A1E83F.07005927112004@corp.supernews.com...
    In article <PK_pd.1689$6o5.573@trnddc08>, "krp" <web2457k@verizon.net>
    wrote:
    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mair_fheal-FC16AB.02555127112004@corp.supernews.com... >> Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a >> responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that >> government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare
    to
    >> work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell, > actually with the prospect of inflation showing up > the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment > and keep wages as low as possible But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines,
    free
    lunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM! is that worse than a virtual slave under capitialism?
    Under capitalism you have a choice, under socialism you do NOT!
    Million children had been diagnosed with mental disorders and placed
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    In article <MPG.1c11857770525207989884@news.individual.net> ,
    knoxy <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote:
    So? It doesn't mean they're wrong, or do you claim there are no homeless families in the U.S?
    Er, why not just have all the homeless then move to Sweden? I'm
    sure that their wonderful socialist system will have them
    up and running as productive citizens in no time!


    All the rest deleted until you can get around to answering that
    simple question. :-)

    regards,
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    > Quite. Its amusing that women have a rep for being good at communication,
    as a group, yet are terrible in communicating matters of relationships with men.
    Women are excellent at communicating period. You see when a woman
    communicates
    a message she means it. Men can buy time but they can never buy a
    change.

    I have worked with lots of women and they always talk about how it had
    to be. The later
    I hear them say that the guy finally figured out I was serious.

    It gets no better or no worse than that.

    It is absolutely true that you should ever try to reason with a woman
    for the smallest reason, she simply
    isn't interested.

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    "occupant" <electronicmailfixtosend@telus.net> wrote in message
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    Quite. Its amusing that women have a rep for being good at communication, as a group, yet are terrible in communicating matters of relationships with men. Women are excellent at communicating period. You see when a woman communicates a message she means it.
    Horse ****!



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    occupant wrote:
    Quite. Its amusing that women have a rep for being good at communication, as a group, yet are terrible in communicating matters of relationships with men. Women are excellent at communicating period. You see when a woman communicates a message she means it. Men can buy time but they can never buy a change. I have worked with lots of women and they always talk about how it had to be. The later I hear them say that the guy finally figured out I was serious. It gets no better or no worse than that. It is absolutely true that you should ever try to reason with a woman for the smallest reason, she simply isn't interested.
    Sounds like "she who must be obeyed."

    But the point is, that you have missed the point. Reasoning with a woman
    doesn't work because it is largely a man-thing. If you want to change a
    woman's mind, talk to her as a woman. Tell her why your idea suits HER
    better. Listen for why she wants to stick with her choice. Treat her as a
    worthwhile person, entitled to choose what is important for her.

    Logic needs a starting-point. It starts with a statement that we assume to
    be true, then proceeds from that. Often we men don't spell out our
    starting point - our assumptions. One assumption is that reason is more
    "true" than a woman's mind. That a woman who won't listen to reason is -
    well - unreasonable. Another is that what a man sees as important, a woman
    should see as important. Toss both those assumptions out the window and
    listen to her say it in her own language. Look for the assumptions she
    uses. Don't call them ridiculous. They are merely different. Reason is a
    tool of language, not a fundamental law of the Universe.

    You might even learn something.

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    krp wrote:
    "occupant" <electronicmailfixtosend@telus.net> wrote in message news:41A9313D.B9D8EE1@telus.net...
    Quite. Its amusing that women have a rep for being good at communication, as a group, yet are terrible in communicating matters of relationships with men. Women are excellent at communicating period. You see when a woman communicates a message she means it.
    Horse ****!
    I think that what he meant was: if she has you in her sights, it is no use
    running.

    "My defences are down..." If you try it, you will agree that being
    miserable CAN be fun!

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    In article <mark_sobolewski-F18CD1.19513727112004@news.central.cox.net>,
    mark_sobolewski@yahoo.com says...
    In article <MPG.1c11857770525207989884@news.individual.net> , knoxy <knoxy@tiscali.se> wrote:
    So? It doesn't mean they're wrong, or do you claim there are no homeless families in the U.S?
    Er, why not just have all the homeless then move to Sweden? I'm sure that their wonderful socialist system will have them up and running as productive citizens in no time! All the rest deleted until you can get around to answering that simple question. :-) regards, Mark Sobolewski
    Why would we want to take care of your homeless?
    We have enough problems taking care of our own, but at least we try to
    take care of them.

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    In article <PK_pd.1689$6o5.573@trnddc08>, web2457k@verizon.net says...
    "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:mair_fheal-FC16AB.02555127112004@corp.supernews.com...
    Nine out of ten Americans believe the federal government has a responsibility to alleviate poverty. A strong majority believes that government should do more, not less, to help people move from welfare to work by providing skills needed to be self-sufficient. (Lake, Snell, actually with the prospect of inflation showing up the government will raise interest rates to increase unemployment and keep wages as low as possible
    But 10 out of 10 Europeans believe in perpetual motion machines, free lunches, the tooth fairy and SOCIALISM!
    You're really obsessed with this idea you have, that everyone in Europe
    believe in free lunches.

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    Hi,
    I was wondering if any one had the same type of statistics about why women who have no children get divorced. Is it money? Is it being unsatisfied? Is it lack of communication? Or is it still about control? Maybe it's about his control over her. Is it b/c of abuse?
    Any evidence out there or a general sense, pls let me know.
    Thanks

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    "Doug Laidlaw" <laidlaws@myaccess.com.au> wrote in message
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    Communication problems was the most commonly cited cause for both men (33 per cent) and women (23 per cent).
    I wonder if any two people saying the cause is "communication problems"
    actually mean the same thing.
    It is a pretty broad term, afterall.

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    The fact that women, more than men, take advantage of the easier exit,
    I just went through this thread but honestly didn't read all the comments. My question is where are the statistics for this article? What was his sampling and for how long? What type of people were surveyed? in what tax bracket? (this makes a big difference)

    I filed for divorce after 24 1/2 years of marriage, and should have filed 10 or more years before that. I put up with his mental and verbal abuse for a long time, but that wasn't the final straw, I found out about his long time girlfriend. I knew over the years that he was cheating on me with many women, but didn't realize he had one for years. In fact while we were going to marriage counseling he was cheating on me (unknown to me at that time) AND blaming me for our marriage problems. I stayed and some could call it being a martyr for my daughters. I believe in my heart they would not have had the opportunities they do if I had left. In addition, I was not as strong as I am today and based on the events during my divorce, I probably couldn't have stood it (in fact he still bothers me, has people spy on me, etc. etc. (he believes I am his property till "death do us part") - and don't tell me to go to the sheriff - they sided with him (I guess it is a man thing or a small town and ignorant thing)). got off onto a tangent and could go on for pages but before I miss my point, I didn't take the easy way out and frankly wish I had.

    - and to make those men happy that think we women screw you over - I got screwed royally during my divorce . the judge gave him all kinds of concessions while assessing what I wanted at high values and his low AND allowing him after the papers were served to transfer some of his assets to his son (thereby not being part of 'our' estate) It did bother me for a while, but it was only hurting me and being honest I just had to chalk it up to the cost of divorce.

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    Clearly most of those who have posted replies do not know any hard working high income women divorced from less ambitious low income men in Kansas. I earned 3X what my ex earned during our 8 year marriage. He didn't even work for 1/3 of the marriage and it wasn't because he was caring for the children. He was "finding himself" and I was paying a babaysitter to watch the children during the hours I was working. When he finally got a job and I decided to take a one year sabatical from my job, he decided he didn't want to be married anymore (he had a boyfriend you see). He got 1/2 of all the marital assets, alimony, and joint custody (They love joint custody in Kansas.) He pays no child support because we have "equal" time with the kids. I buy their clothes, school supplies, you name it, because he doesn't - ever. I take the kids to doctor and dentist appointments and go to parent teacher meetings, because he doesn't. At his house my daughter does the laundry and cooks for her brothers and she calls me when there is no food in his house. Why do I put a smile on my face, do what needs to be done, and put up with this? Because there are no other options. Kansas courts love joint custody. All the "research" says it is best for kids to have lots of access to both parents, doesn't it? Some day when my kids are a bit older they will figure it out, and that is really why I put up with this ridiculus situation. Now tell me one more time how men are being taken advantage of?
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