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Old 08-06-2004, 07:52 AM
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but
this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is
always thinking about new ways to harm our country.

Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign
standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters.

================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed

Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear

Washington Bureau
Published August 6, 2004

WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing
$417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president
misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush
said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and
our people, and neither do we."

Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had
no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most
straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said.

"The American people know this president speaks with clarity and
conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions
he means it."
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Old 08-06-2004, 08:11 AM
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Ignoramus22665 <ignoramus22665@NOSPAM.22665.invalid> writes:
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters.
I found this rather amusing too. He often speaks as if english was
not his native language. And yet I think he has been living in an
english-speaking country since he was born!

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WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
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Ignoramus22665 <ignoramus22665@NOSPAM.22665.invalid> writes:
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters.
I found this rather amusing too. He often speaks as if english was
not his native language. And yet I think he has been living in an
english-speaking country since he was born!

(snip)
Quote:
WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
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Old 08-06-2004, 08:11 AM
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"Ignoramus22665" <ignoramus22665@NOSPAM.22665.invalid> wrote in message
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
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Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men
of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to
say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the
problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided
attention...
Momma


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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men
of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to
say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the
problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided
attention...
Momma


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Old 08-06-2004, 02:00 PM
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0805042bush1.html

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In article <cf05uv$uo1$0@pita.alt.net>, Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================ ====================== http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:00 PM
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Video fragment, even funnier than the text quote:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0805042bush1.html

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In article <cf05uv$uo1$0@pita.alt.net>, Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================ ====================== http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:08 PM
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We even saw it on good ol' SABC TV!

It was dropped jaws all round.

He had such an odd look on his face when he said that.
Like he knew and was quite happy saying it.

Does he
a. read his speeches?
b. did he just misread that ?
c. does he just adlib?
d. was that a stupid question?

- Michaela
Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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We even saw it on good ol' SABC TV!

It was dropped jaws all round.

He had such an odd look on his face when he said that.
Like he knew and was quite happy saying it.

Does he
a. read his speeches?
b. did he just misread that ?
c. does he just adlib?
d. was that a stupid question?

- Michaela
Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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Old 08-06-2004, 06:32 PM
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In article <411420bf.0@news1.mweb.co.za>, Michaela wrote:
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We even saw it on good ol' SABC TV! It was dropped jaws all round.
Video fragment, even funnier than the text quote:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0805042bush1.html

i
Quote:
He had such an odd look on his face when he said that. Like he knew and was quite happy saying it. Does he a. read his speeches? b. did he just misread that ? c. does he just adlib? d. was that a stupid question? - Michaela Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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Old 08-06-2004, 06:32 PM
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In article <411420bf.0@news1.mweb.co.za>, Michaela wrote:
Quote:
We even saw it on good ol' SABC TV! It was dropped jaws all round.
Video fragment, even funnier than the text quote:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0805042bush1.html

i
Quote:
He had such an odd look on his face when he said that. Like he knew and was quite happy saying it. Does he a. read his speeches? b. did he just misread that ? c. does he just adlib? d. was that a stupid question? - Michaela Ignoramus22665 wrote:
Quote:
As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
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"Everyboysmomma" <noway@maine.rr.com> wrote in message news:<PcNQc.115520$bp1.5528@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
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"Ignoramus22665" <ignoramus22665@NOSPAM.22665.invalid> wrote in message news:cf05uv$uo1$0@pita.alt.net...
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided attention... Momma
The big difference is, is that you're not representing our country,
nor do you do it on a regular basis. Do you make up words too? One
of my favorites is, "misunderestimated".
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"Everyboysmomma" <noway@maine.rr.com> wrote in message news:<PcNQc.115520$bp1.5528@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
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"Ignoramus22665" <ignoramus22665@NOSPAM.22665.invalid> wrote in message news:cf05uv$uo1$0@pita.alt.net...
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As someone who sometimes makes even worse gaffes, I sympathize, but this it too hilarious to pass up. Apparently, Bush said that he is always thinking about new ways to harm our country. Surely, his ruination of the budget and ruination of our foreign standing in the Iraq fiasco do not help to clarify matters. ================================================== ====================
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed
Quote:
Aide: President misspoke, but meaning clear Washington Bureau Published August 6, 2004 WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed legislation Thursday authorizing $417 billion in defense spending. In his remarks, the president misspoke when talking about the war on terrorism. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan assured reporters that Bush had no intent to harm Americans. Rather, it "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak," he said. "The American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction," McClellan said. "And the terrorists know by his actions he means it."
Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided attention... Momma
The big difference is, is that you're not representing our country,
nor do you do it on a regular basis. Do you make up words too? One
of my favorites is, "misunderestimated".
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In article <PcNQc.115520$bp1.5528@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
"Everyboysmomma" <noway@maine.rr.com> wrote:
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Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided attention...
Yes, but amuse me, please. can find the misspoken word or move a couple
of words to show us how he made the gaff? I have tried and I can't.

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In article <PcNQc.115520$bp1.5528@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
"Everyboysmomma" <noway@maine.rr.com> wrote:
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Oh, but I can top this. I once had to speak to a legislative group (all men of course) as the liaison for family day care providers. When I *meant* to say was "circumvent the problem" What I actually said was "circumcise the problem". Needless to say, from that point on, I had their undivided attention...
Yes, but amuse me, please. can find the misspoken word or move a couple
of words to show us how he made the gaff? I have tried and I can't.

EPS
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On 09 Aug 2004 12:49:27 -0700, Doug Anderson
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I think you are wrong. I think the disgust that many feel for Bushhas been because of how he has behaved, not because they are "Bushhaters." It is easy to underestimate the intelligence of those youdisagree with.
Yes, it's very easy, isn't it?

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On 09 Aug 2004 12:49:27 -0700, Doug Anderson
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[...]
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I think you are wrong. I think the disgust that many feel for Bushhas been because of how he has behaved, not because they are "Bushhaters." It is easy to underestimate the intelligence of those youdisagree with.
Yes, it's very easy, isn't it?

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Empress wrote in message news:<pcgfh0piln4a60aj4d6cdr41tfnr1qgoc5@4ax.com>. ..
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On 09 Aug 2004 09:24:15 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Many countries supported the Afghan war.Few countries supported the Iraq war because Bush didn't make hiscase. He could quite likely have had more support in Iraq (at thecost of waiting 2 or 3 months).
Agreed. Of course, now we have the benefit of hindsight... Bush was the president at the helm on 9/11, *he* was the one who had to decide what to do, and *he* was the one who was getting information about Hussein's WMD from a number of sources. Tommy Franks says he told the president that Egypt and Syria were telling him that Saddam Hussein had WMD; most of the world believed there was something going on in Iraq, thus the UN resolutions and now the various committees, inquisitions and reports say that Bush didn't lie. My whole point is to say that Bush haters want to vilify the president, instead of seeing him as an imperfect leader in very difficult times.
For those of us who did not vote for Bush, we disliked him before the war. I didn't wait for the war to find fault with him. But apparently something went wrong with the voting system. :-)
Yeah, Rev. Jackson didn't educate all those indigents he brought in on how
to punch holes in a ballot.

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On 09 Aug 2004 09:24:15 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Many countries supported the Afghan war.Few countries supported the Iraq war because Bush didn't make hiscase. He could quite likely have had more support in Iraq (at thecost of waiting 2 or 3 months).
Agreed. Of course, now we have the benefit of hindsight... Bush was the president at the helm on 9/11, *he* was the one who had to decide what to do, and *he* was the one who was getting information about Hussein's WMD from a number of sources. Tommy Franks says he told the president that Egypt and Syria were telling him that Saddam Hussein had WMD; most of the world believed there was something going on in Iraq, thus the UN resolutions and now the various committees, inquisitions and reports say that Bush didn't lie. My whole point is to say that Bush haters want to vilify the president, instead of seeing him as an imperfect leader in very difficult times.
For those of us who did not vote for Bush, we disliked him before the war. I didn't wait for the war to find fault with him. But apparently something went wrong with the voting system. :-)
Yeah, Rev. Jackson didn't educate all those indigents he brought in on how
to punch holes in a ballot.

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On 09 Aug 2004 09:24:15 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@yahoo.com> wrote: >Many countries supported the Afghan war. > >Few countries supported the Iraq war because Bush didn't make his >case. He could quite likely have had more support in Iraq (at the >cost of waiting 2 or 3 months). Agreed. Of course, now we have the benefit of hindsight... Bush was the president at the helm on 9/11, *he* was the one who had to decide what to do, and *he* was the one who was getting information about Hussein's WMD from a number of sources. Tommy Franks says he told the president that Egypt and Syria were telling him that Saddam Hussein had WMD; most of the world believed there was something going on in Iraq, thus the UN resolutions and now the various committees, inquisitions and reports say that Bush didn't lie. My whole point is to say that Bush haters want to vilify the president, instead of seeing him as an imperfect leader in very difficult times.
For those of us who did not vote for Bush, we disliked him before the war. I didn't wait for the war to find fault with him. But apparently something went wrong with the voting system. :-)
Yeah, Rev. Jackson didn't educate all those indigents he brought in on how to punch holes in a ballot. -Tony
Wow! Two smilies from Tony in one day. Do you have a crush on me or what???
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Old 08-10-2004, 03:46 PM
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Yes and no.
Who are you? John Kerry?
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confessed lie about drunk driving convictions? In both cases, the men in question lied to the public
Bill Clinton committed felony perjury. George Bush lied to the press. Are
you saying that's the same thing?

Next thing you'll be telling me is that Bush lied about the war.

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Ronin <spamThis@idtso.com> wrote:
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Bill Clinton committed felony perjury.
Nonsense. Express your opinion of politicians however you want to, but
please refrain from making incorrect legal interpretations.

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Old 08-14-2004, 07:02 AM
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One doesn't need to "interpret" lying under oath - unless of course you
want debate the definition of what lying is.


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Ronin <spamThis@idtso.com> wrote:
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Bill Clinton committed felony perjury.
Nonsense. Express your opinion of politicians however you want to, but please refrain from making incorrect legal interpretations.
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Old 08-16-2004, 10:19 AM
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Ronin <spamThis@idtso.com> wrote:
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One doesn't need to "interpret" lying under oath - unless of course you want debate the definition of what lying is.
Agreed. One does, however, need to apply legal standards to determine
what "felony perjury" might be.
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Ronin <spamThis@idtso.com> wrote:
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Bill Clinton committed felony perjury.
Nonsense. Express your opinion of politicians however you want to, but please refrain from making incorrect legal interpretations.
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