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    I am a gay man and have been spyed on by my neighbors for nearly 2 years since I moved into my house. I have no hard evidence of such other than hearing them outside my window and overhearing their conversations, but they seem to know things about me and know my every move within my house. I have blocked visibility in my house (there's no way they can see in my bedroom or bathroom), yet they continue to make comments to eachother about what I'm specifically doing at any given moment which leads me to suspect I am being video survellanced (I leave my house for days at a time and susupect they have broken in and placed surveillance equipment in my house). I know this is illegal (assuming they have done so). My question is, what limitations are there in counter surveillance? I don't want to break the law in trying to catch them at their own game. I intend to purchase equipment to test if my house has been "bugged" and also my own surveillance equipment to monitor my house and property. Is there any laws (California) limiting me in this activity? I intend to prosecute them if I uncover ANYTHING which I can prove they are involved in against me. I also want to record the conversations and verbal harrassment they spew at me. I have to wear earplugs in my own home just to ignore their verbal assaults and am now going to the bathroom with a blanket covering me just to assure a little privacy!! Do I have any recourse here?

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    Call the police and make a complaint. You may be a hate crime victim. They can check your home, assuming you have a modern police department, to see if there are bugs and check your belief that your home was invaded in yout absence. Also, there may be a local nuisance ordinance and if you are being talked about so you can hear it that close, file a complaint as the neighbors creating a nuisance to deter from your peaceful enjoyment. The police are to serve and protect, and if they are not reasonable, try the local district attorney, then state attorney general's office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Wilson
    I am a gay man and have been spyed on by my neighbors for nearly 2 years since I moved into my house. I have no hard evidence of such other than hearing them outside my window and overhearing their conversations, but they seem to know things about me and know my every move within my house. I have blocked visibility in my house (there's no way they can see in my bedroom or bathroom), yet they continue to make comments to eachother about what I'm specifically doing at any given moment which leads me to suspect I am being video survellanced (I leave my house for days at a time and susupect they have broken in and placed surveillance equipment in my house). I know this is illegal (assuming they have done so). My question is, what limitations are there in counter surveillance? I don't want to break the law in trying to catch them at their own game. I intend to purchase equipment to test if my house has been "bugged" and also my own surveillance equipment to monitor my house and property. Is there any laws (California) limiting me in this activity? I intend to prosecute them if I uncover ANYTHING which I can prove they are involved in against me. I also want to record the conversations and verbal harrassment they spew at me. I have to wear earplugs in my own home just to ignore their verbal assaults and am now going to the bathroom with a blanket covering me just to assure a little privacy!! Do I have any recourse here?

    Alan,

    I really do feel for you. I am going through almost the exact same situation except I am not gay. I am also in CA. Here's my situation.

    My spouse is the onsite, residential property manager for the apt complex we live in. We have been here 5 years this September. For a long time things were great. Then one of the tenants started to act crazy and I decided that I didn't want her around my children anymore for their own protection.

    She began to stalk and harass us to no end. Last summer she followed us, took our pictures everytime we went outside and even took pictures of us in our bedroom late at night. I filed 2 police reports against her and called the cops like 6 or 7 times.

    She went around to all my neighbors telling them the most vicious lies about us and trying to get my spouse fired. She couldn't keep her lies straight due to the amount of prescription pills she takes.

    Among her lies were that my husband and I are racists and refer to all black people as *n*****s. She physically assulted me while I had a baby in my arms and then lunged for me when I walked away telling her I was calling the cops. I have witnesses.

    My spouses company completly refuses to do anything about her. Won't let him evict her, won't let him do a thing.

    She even went so far as to tell us that we had no right to keep our kids from her and we were violating her rights by doing so.....

    Then she made some comments which led us to believe she might actually kidnap our kids so I sent her a cease and desist letter. She responded by filing a bogus and fraudulant restraining order against me. I do have irrefutable proof that she lied about everything and I mean everything she alledged in her application to the Court. Her case was dismissed at hearing.

    So all was peaceful for 7 glorious months. Then out of the blue she called the County bar association and asked for a mediation due to an ongoing dispute with me. Funny that since I hadnt spoken to her in at least 9 months or even seen her for that matter.

    I didn't want to go because she was only doing it to control me but after talking to the mediator on the phone decided to go for it so I could tell her off.
    The mediator called her to see if the time and date we had set was ok with her. She told the mediator that the problem really wasn't with me it was with my spouse.

    Then she went around telling other tenants that my husband had an affair with her which is a bald face lie and even told my husband's boss that yesterday.

    Here's the thing though. I have long suspected that I am being videotaped by one of her buddy families in the bldg and tonight it was confirmed that someone is still taking our pictures.

    Yesterday this crazy stalker who causes so much trouble actually got in my face and told me that my problem is that I practice a fake and phony religion and that my religion was a "piece of s**t" and that my religion should die. That I am bad because I don't share her religion and that my religion is evil. I am going to file a police report in 2 days for civil harassment and the police told me it is a hate crime what she did about my religion.

    So I understand all too well how you feel. The frustration, the anger, the sense of violation. Don't give up. Fight like heck for your rights. Nobody and I mean Nobody has the right to harass another and stalk another and we victims need to stand up and fight back.

    Take care,

    Frustrated and Tired.

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    F&T, from what you have described I would think that you could (or should) be able to pursue charges. My thoughts are that it's a hate crime since now she's attacking you for your religion. Irregardless if anything she said has any truth. You could be a baptist for all I care, but she's attacked you for your 1st Amendment rights. That's a no-no.

    You should be able to pursue criminal charges and possibly civil charges based on the criminal charges. If the police feel there isn't anything to use for criminal charges, you should be able to use that for the civil court.

    I ain't a lawyer, just more court experience than I care for.

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    Hello everyone,
    Glad I found this site...
    Alan,your story is pretty much like mine.I am not gay but I have the same BS from my next door neighbours(they like to think I am gay)This has been going on for about 18 months,since I moved in.I'm an English bloke in Amsterdam btw. My trouble was started by an vindictive ex-girlfriend,spreading lies,half-truths and malicious gossip.Like you,I knew they must have some surveillance equipment as otherwise they would not know what you are doing. I also noticed weird clicking noises at certain points in the ceilings of the rooms...I've asked people in the know and the clicking is quite possibly relay switches.These had started soon after I'd heard REALLY LOUD drilling into my walls,above ceiling level.At the time I thought they were renovating or rebuilding.As soon as I first heard the nasty comments,insults etc.I went to these people to confront them about it.They of course,cowards that they are,denied any knowledge of the problem.And got real nervous and uneasy when I told them that eventually there will come a solution to this.It's so frustrating cos it's so difficult to get evidence and it sounds so hard to believe.And I know they are getting a tremendous kick out of it. I've spent so much time worrying about it,losing sleep,being late for work(if it wasn't for my very understanding boss,I would've lost my job by now!) I guess the law is slightly different where you are,but the cops need hard evidence...they can't really go barging into peoples houses on someone elses sayso of course.
    So I've enquired about having a "bugsweep" done.For my appartment this will cost about 800/1000 EURO($600/700 ?) For this you also get a print-out that they have detected something - and they can usually tell you what it is as well as where.This can be used as evidence but the bugsweep bloke will not go to the police with you.There are also devices you can buy.This equipment costs around 1000 EURO.I'm sure you can obtain this quite easily as I know that much of it is manufactured in the U.S.E-mail a company specialising in this equipment,ask about prices...keep the e-mail. I haven't decided what to do yet as I've only just reported this nonsense to the cops.This was my first and most difficult step I think.I speak fluent Dutch but with a strong northern english accent,to some it is charming to others it sounds ridiculous:o)Also,keep any e-mails you have sent complaining of your situation - if you ask me,these can also be used as part of a case against them.Tell your friends.Write e-mails.It's an excellent way of keeping a record.And will possibly eleviate some of the psychological pressure etc.Sure,some people will think you're nuts or have been smoking something strange - who cares as long as you get even a chance to nail these creeps! I know it's difficult but try and just continue normally...in fact it's the only thing you can do unless you want to let them see you being nervous,upset,pathetic and scared(I know-I've been there!) Anyhow,I really feel I've taken a positive step by going to the authorities.Here in Holland they have a "buurtregisseur" which is a mediator between warring neighbours.He will be the next step but is at present on holiday. He'll go get both sides of the story then try to arrange a meeting.I'm well up for this! If they refuse,then that is surely an indication that they have something to hide...think about it,if someone accuses you of doing this...you'd want to know who and why!
    I'm also ready to go to a lawyer.E-mail a lawyer asking advice...keep the e-mail.
    Anyways Alan,hope this helps a bit.Feel free to mail me and we could exchange more advice and I'd be interested to know how it's going now.
    I wish everyone the best of luck in solving their problems...it certainly is a nightmare.
    Best wishes,
    Greetings from Amsterdam,
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    Hi Alan
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    I feel your pain.I too think you should have your home checked for voilation of privacy. It's sad you can't have the comforts of your home and be at peace in what you chose too do in the privacy of your own home. It's out side how you carry your self . But what you do and how you choose too do it in your home invasion of privacy! It is your right too do what ever you want in your as long as it's legal! It is your business! I would have my home checked if I were you. I moved here a year ago and I couldn't play my spiritual music and evrytime I did it was a problem and later she started with and about my listening too my satalite music on T.V complained too the landlord when first moved in and then called the police on me. Never told me who she was and never introduced herself and she came too my door requesting that I turn my music down never had it loud the police saw that for himself ; we live in the business district of Illinois I was happy too move and was happy too be engaged too be married. There is more noise outside. She has a child that runs through the apartment but I do not complain and the arguements with her men friends ;my god! I wish you the best of luck .She bothered me so my husband requested the landlord hold a meeting in his office with the 3 of us I was so angry I wanted too just jump her goat but my husband refuses allow me too say anything .She'd talk too my husband but never said a kind word too me! I moved from where I used too stay which was drug infested; shots rang in front of my apartment and people stayed in your business. Those shots were right outside my bedroom window and bullet holes in my car. I just wanted some peace and my God don't bring the grand kids over too my apartment she complained about that too.Do what you have too do to find out the truth including praying God will direct you and help in your decision. He helped me. I thought I'd never find another place too stay but I have but I'm not too happy cause I stopped going too church and I stopped listening too my music because of other peoples cruelty. People are'nt who they should be and they don't do what their supposed to do but their always in someones else business. I'd say do it. It would make you feel better too know at least you got sense enough not too pry into their business which makes you a better person . God Bless!

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    Alan It's me Anetta
    I am not sure of what to do too help you at this time My phone is taped as well and the reason being because I married an ex -convict and when the beatings started I wound up putting him out . You kind of caught me off guard and I'm in the middle of waitng too go too court and dealing with the fact I have too start all over again. If I find something I will contact you then but then too I maynot have access too the net either cause the phones in his name. Shame you help people on their feet and they doo things too get out of helping you. I will try too find something for you until then you have too be patient just don't do things too make yourself look supicious. God Bless. Anetta

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    [QUOTE=Alan Wilson]I am a gay man and have been spyed on by my neighbors for nearly 2 years since I moved into my house. I have no hard evidence of such other than hearing them outside my window and overhearing their conversations, but they seem to know things about me and know my every move within my house. I have blocked visibility in my house (there's no way they can see in my bedroom or bathroom), yet they continue to make comments to eachother about what I'm specifically doing at any given moment which leads me to suspect I am being video survellanced (I leave my house for days at a time and susupect they have broken in and placed surveillance equipment in my house). I know this is illegal (assuming they have done so). My question is, what limitations are there in counter surveillance? I don't want to break the law in trying to catch them at their own game. I intend to purchase equipment to test if my house has been "bugged" and also my own surveillance equipment to monitor my house and property. Is there any laws (California) limiting me in this activity? I intend to prosecute them if I uncover ANYTHING which I can prove they are involved in against me. I also want to record the conversations and verbal harrassment they spew at me. I have to wear earplugs in my own home just to ignore their verbal assaults and am now going to the bathroom with a blanket covering me just to assure a little privacy!! Do I have any recourse here?
    [ From - COUNTERMEASURE
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    Here are some helpful websites. Please go this route before you spend alot of money on bug devices. I speak from experience and they are not helpful. The first thing I would get is a portable viedo jammer. If you go to google it will give you several listing. Type in wireless jammer. Here some other helpful websites that your enemy may be using to keep track of your every move.
    www.followus.com is a website that will provide your location with just a cell phone number or just go to google and type in track cell phone.
    www.netdetective will give you the scoop on anyone.
    www.1stat-gps-tracking.com/ will provide your location 24 hrs a day, once this device is place on your car in a hidden place. It really depends on what type of device it is because it will also allow the eavesdropper to do survelliance also. Let me keep it simple, they don't have come in your house. The eavesdropper can just use a gps tracking device to perform electronic harrassment and view everything about life while you are in your car, shopping, what restarant you like to eat at, whereever you go, friends, family, it doesn't matter it is at full view for your enemy and their friends,and not mention your phone conversation, they can hace full view of the inside of your house online and it does not matter what room you are in, and yes the camera they use today are xray and at it doesn't make any difference if you have the lights off. Please keep in mind that there are different types of bugs, gps devices, phone bugs, wireless camera before you spend alot of money to get a bugsweep. I personally, think that the bug stuff is just a big rip off. If you go to google and type in gps tracking, and different types of phone bugs. you will also find websites about this devices.

    www.zabasearch.com/ will allow you to locate anyone. If you can get the physical address, then there is a high chance that you can get their email address and this is where the hard part is getting the evidence. Alan, you are rigth you will get into trouble for breaking into another person's home. So, the next thing to do if you have the available funds and know who the individual is that is attacking you in any kind of way. Take the time to get all of his or her information. If you can locate a email address, that is the beginning of a case. Because all computers keeps information, even after you delete it and that is what you need. The next step is to hired someone to get the possible information legally if you know who your suspect migth be. It took me forever, to get this information. Because of electronic harrassment, lies and severe damage to my reputation, lost of jobs, friends, love ones. I am sending this information to share with anyone who is a victim and whatever you do, do not give up. Figth back and as long as we help each other we will get through this. I am in financial crisis, due to this cruel game, emotionally mad, and yes, I am tired. I also deal with this issue alone at this time because it hard to get people to believe you. Especially, your family without the evidence. It's hard to prove, keep a cool head, get as much information that you can. I have a GOD. and I believe he let this happen to me for a reason, even if it is to help other people. I'm not scare, I'm not worry, and don't you be because this is what they want. I just want anyone that has a hatred heart to do this type of crime to another human being to be put away. Just keep letting them play their sick game because sooner or later. It will somehow come to front, in the open because evil cannot last forever the end must come. I don't know how but it will and may take a few people like us to make a change before it happens. Keep sharing your information and keep letting people know even if they think you are crazy atleast someone knows. Remember this, not one us should the object of another person's sick game. The last time I check, I don't recall being anyone's toy. If I have to live my every waking moment, to get my life back or just to help someone with the same problem, then this is what I will do. It's wrong and it is not even human to want to do this to another person.. ..........countermeasure against the evil one until we meet again. GOD BlESS!!!!!!
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    Now, if only more than one of those links worked....

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    Are you referring to countermeasure. All of the links work. Try going to google and typing in wireless jammer, or gps tracking, different types of bugs. I'm not sure what problem you are having. I pull the information up everyday. Make sure that you are going to your address bar which is located under the Menu bar. I hope this is helpful.

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    www.grandtrades.net/ prevent spying with wireless camera
    www.globalgadgetuk.com prevent of spying with wireless camera
    www.spy-cam-security.com spying devices that your enemy may use to get the scoop on you.
    www.netdetective/ software that enemy can use to get the scoop on you without you knowing.
    www.spyzilla.com/ spying devices that your enemy may use
    www.zabasearch.com locate anyone with the free directory website.
    LocationTag LT100/ gps tracking device that can be use with cellphone or online this could be another device being use to snoop on you 24 hours a day. I believe that the viedo jammer may help with this. What do you think ? you have to go to this website. I get piss off just thinking that anyone can have access to this device. http://www.allitgo.com/docs/LT100SaleSheet.pdf
    x10.com/ provide wireless cameras that will let you see through your neighbor's wall and it doesn't matter if it's dark. They have any type camera you want to do the dirty work. I know all of this is out there and the only device, that I could come up with is the wireless portable viedo jammer. Good luck, everyone and share some info if you have some. It is time for the sick game to be over. Need more information, send me a email.......and please give this information to anyone that my be the victim of this awful joke.
    www.haltabuse.org/ cyberstalking laws for each state.
    www.paramountzone.com/voice_changer.htm /voice changer- anyone can call and pretend that he or she is another person
    www.livejournal.com/ will provide you with radar jammers
    www.tscm.com/typebug.html
    [url]www.max-info.com/crime/bug.html If you don't know anything about bugs, I
    think that both of these websites may be helpful.
    http://www.intuitivestudies.com/inve...n/page18.html/ phone bug -small device that is hidden but can be dangerous.
    www.vetronix.com/ Find out if your car has an EDR
    www.ripe.net/ locate ip's address. Do you want to know where the email address is coming from try this website.
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    These are the results I got back from the urls, countermeasure-

    www.grantrades.net - "http://www.grantrades.net could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    www.followus.com - Invalid site, currently held by Godaddy.com

    www.globalgadetuk.com - "http://www.globalgadetuk.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    www.spy-cam-security.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.netdetective - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.spyzilla.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.zabasearch.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.1stat-gps-tracking.com - "http://www.1stat-gps-tracking.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    I have particular interest in several of these, sadly the ones I really want aren't working. How long until they are?

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    There are a number of methods to bug your house. Transmitters, recorders, and outright bugs.

    What I have seen done is the use of a small handheld am-fm radio and a music source. But that only works if the signal is transmitted. Most of the inexpensive transmitters use either am or fm on the same frequency spectrum that you can find on the small radio. That's why you don't use a separate radio, because some stations transmit on multiple frequencies, whether intentional or not. If you are scanning through the frequencies and find the music or whatever playing on the air, you've located the frequency of the transmitter. You then walk around to locate where you get the strongest signal, and that tells you where the bug is.

    If possible, get one of the older radio scanners. Those get frequencies your handheld radio won't cover, thus increasing your chances of finding a transmitter.

    Unfortunately thee are a multitude of bugs that could be used. Some use voice vibration through walls. This one is what it sounds like you have. No way to find that, though if you have an approximate location, you can take a small cheap speaker headset, remove the foam ear pieces, and tape the speakers to the wall. Then play at low volume whatever you want. Low enough that you can barely hear it, though a vibration bug can.

    Look around your place and check for anything that isn't yours or doesn't look familar. Especially in the bathroom, near the phone, near the sitting area, near lamps and pictures, etc. If you find anything, take note of where it is.

    Check around your place and look for anything on the walls or ceiling that you don't recognize. Like holes or off-color dimples that you don't remember seeing before. If possible get a "blacklight", or Ultraviolet light and turn it on. The UV light will change the colors of everything in the room, and very very rarely can they insert or add anything to the walls or ceiling and have it match the paint or wall paper exactly. The UV light will detect the difference. This method finds stuff like camera lens. With today's technology, it's amazing what they can put in there. If you find anything, take note of what it is and where and then put a piece of masking or electrical tape over it. That makes it unusable.

    Don't know if those can help you, but it's something. I covered the two most likely bugs you could be dealing with along with actual physically intrusive devices.

    But if you find something, notify your landlord and the police immediately and file a report. You should then have the proof to back your side of the story.

    Hope that helps you!

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    Hi Allan
    I understand your situation. My neighbour also talked behind my family with others neighbours because we just move here. They also keep knocking on the wall (we lived in townhouse) everytime we make noise even when we were cooking or cutting foods. It's very uncomfortable when you live in your own house bt u can barely make a move or sound.(y'all get what i mean?)
    What can i do or should i call the cops?

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    Trustie, can you prove any of this? If so, tell your landlord. Also, whatever happened to telling your neighbors "shut up and leave me and my family alone"? Sometimes you have to force people to respect your privacy by confronting them directly.

    What you will find is that the very people that invade your personal privacy limits are very insecure with their own lives. They feel safe in intruding on other peoples rights. I am sure everyone has been there before- neighbor that must know everything about you when it's really none of their business.

    Trustie, this is no doubt going to ruffle the admin feathers, but I think that if your neighbor continues this, just confront them. Tell him/her "hey, leave me alone. Leave my family alone. Just plain leave us alone or else." And document it. then if they continue it should give you more of a foundation to base charges of harassment on.

    I have seen in a few instances where the cops can't do anything because the people being harassed never told the people to stop. Somehow it's expected that they just will. People aren't like that. You have to tell them to stop. Then if they don't then you have rights you can enforce, whereas before you didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactus jack
    These are the results I got back from the urls, countermeasure-

    www.grantrades.net - "http://www.grantrades.net could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    www.followus.com - Invalid site, currently held by Godaddy.com

    www.globalgadetuk.com - "http://www.globalgadetuk.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    www.spy-cam-security.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.netdetective - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.spyzilla.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.zabasearch.com - Good site, have it bookmarked

    www.1stat-gps-tracking.com - "http://www.1stat-gps-tracking.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again."

    I have particular interest in several of these, sadly the ones I really want aren't working. How long until they are?
    Sorry, major typo, on the website for www.1st-at-gps-tracking.com and we all know just one little mistake can cause big problems. I also left a letter out of www.grandtrades.net. I did check www.followus.com again and it came up just fine. I do know something about computers and sound like this website is being hijacked it can cause you to go to a different website other than the one you are looking for. If you haven't done a window update, then I would update as soon as possible and scan with adaware or spybot for the removal of possible viruses. If you go to google and type adaware or spybot it should take you to the website. When your computer has spyware it will allow your website to be hijacked, so you want to take care of the problem rigth away. Thank you for extra information on the bug devices.

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    Ok, all looks good except for one, and I have my security system running a check. Thanks for the warning!

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    Angry falsely arrested.
    i live in the state of california in los angeles county, my roomate and I moved into an apartment building in the San Fernando Valley, and have been subject to racial harrassment right from the start. my roomate has a 7 year old daugther, who is the only kid in the building on july 1st, 2005, I was outside our apt. door gathering up my roomie's kid's toys, and another tenant in the building was VIDEOTAPING US AND AIMING THE CAMERA INSIDE OF OUR APARTMENT. I then asked him what he was doing, and he came towards me with the camera saying that he is recording the child , and I respondended saying that's illlegal, and what child pedophiles and molesters do. he said well this is a public place and I said not our apartment.

    Then all of a sudden 7 other white tenants surround me along with the guy with the recorder, outside of my apt. door. and began calling me ni$%er bi#$%es and that they were going to kick my n*$&er a$$. since I was surrounded, I was unable to flee. Then one of the whitewomen with the angry white mob went to attack me saying bit#* I will get in your face and kick your n*%&er a&&. I then quickely raised my hands up in defense since Iam in fear of my life and safety. They called the police on me and I was arrested, never given any opportunity to tell my side of what truly happend. while in police custody, I was denied food and medication, which caused me to go into diabetic shock and had to be transported to emergency.

    we are the only colored people in the building, which was rented to us by the owner and not the manager, who is openly racist. Had we known the whole building was this way, we would have never moved in.

    what is self defense under california law? and my civil and other rights? sombody please help.

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    idalis Angry falsely arrested.
    i live in the state of california in los angeles county, my roomate and I moved into an apartment building in the San Fernando Valley, and have been subject to racial harrassment right from the start. my roomate has a 7 year old daugther, who is the only kid in the building on july 1st, 2005, I was outside our apt. door gathering up my roomie's kid's toys, and another tenant in the building was VIDEOTAPING US AND AIMING THE CAMERA INSIDE OF OUR APARTMENT. I then asked him what he was doing, and he came towards me with the camera saying that he is recording the child , and I respondended saying that's illlegal, and what child pedophiles and molesters do. he said well this is a public place and I said not our apartment.

    Then all of a sudden 7 other white tenants surround me along with the guy with the recorder, outside of my apt. door. and began calling me ni$%er bi#$%es and that they were going to kick my n*$&er a$$. since I was surrounded, I was unable to flee. Then one of the whitewomen with the angry white mob went to attack me saying bit#* I will get in your face and kick your n*%&er a&&. I then quickely raised my hands up in defense since Iam in fear of my life and safety. They called the police on me and I was arrested, never given any opportunity to tell my side of what truly happend. while in police custody, I was denied food and medication, which caused me to go into diabetic shock and had to be transported to emergency.

    we are the only colored people in the building, which was rented to us by the owner and not the manager, who is openly racist. Had we known the whole building was this way, we would have never moved in.

    what is self defense under california law? and my civil and other rights? sombody please help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anetta Campbell
    Hi Alan
    Im Anetta
    I feel your pain.I too think you should have your home checked for voilation of privacy. It's sad you can't have the comforts of your home and be at peace in what you chose too do in the privacy of your own home. It's out side how you carry your self . But what you do and how you choose too do it in your home invasion of privacy! It is your right too do what ever you want in your as long as it's legal! It is your business! I would have my home checked if I were you. I moved here a year ago and I couldn't play my spiritual music and evrytime I did it was a problem and later she started with and about my listening too my satalite music on T.V complained too the landlord when first moved in and then called the police on me. Never told me who she was and never introduced herself and she came too my door requesting that I turn my music down never had it loud the police saw that for himself ; we live in the business district of Illinois I was happy too move and was happy too be engaged too be married. There is more noise outside. She has a child that runs through the apartment but I do not complain and the arguements with her men friends ;my god! I wish you the best of luck .She bothered me so my husband requested the landlord hold a meeting in his office with the 3 of us I was so angry I wanted too just jump her goat but my husband refuses allow me too say anything .She'd talk too my husband but never said a kind word too me! I moved from where I used too stay which was drug infested; shots rang in front of my apartment and people stayed in your business. Those shots were right outside my bedroom window and bullet holes in my car. I just wanted some peace and my God don't bring the grand kids over too my apartment she complained about that too.Do what you have too do to find out the truth including praying God will direct you and help in your decision. He helped me. I thought I'd never find another place too stay but I have but I'm not too happy cause I stopped going too church and I stopped listening too my music because of other peoples cruelty. People are'nt who they should be and they don't do what their supposed to do but their always in someones else business. I'd say do it. It would make you feel better too know at least you got sense enough not too pry into their business which makes you a better person . God Bless!

    i would not stop listing to me spiritual music for no one, get a small voice activated recorder, and let the old hag know that you will be recording everything she does and says to you and will call the cops on her and let them listen to it. and if she continues on with it, then you can either ignore her or tell her to go to hell!
    Last edited by idalis; 07-11-2005 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustie
    Hi Allan
    I understand your situation. My neighbour also talked behind my family with others neighbours because we just move here. They also keep knocking on the wall (we lived in townhouse) everytime we make noise even when we were cooking or cutting foods. It's very uncomfortable when you live in your own house bt u can barely make a move or sound.(y'all get what i mean?)
    What can i do or should i call the cops?
    [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS] i have similar situation but mines is worse. but as far as your harrassers. you can call the cops, if they don't do anything, record everything that goes on. if it was me, i would bam back on the wall especially if the police and or the manager refused to assist. i would also let her know that i will be recording all of her harrassment against me. for future legal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Wilson
    I am a gay man and have been spyed on by my neighbors for nearly 2 years since I moved into my house. I have no hard evidence of such other than hearing them outside my window and overhearing their conversations, but they seem to know things about me and know my every move within my house. I have blocked visibility in my house (there's no way they can see in my bedroom or bathroom), yet they continue to make comments to eachother about what I'm specifically doing at any given moment which leads me to suspect I am being video survellanced (I leave my house for days at a time and susupect they have broken in and placed surveillance equipment in my house). I know this is illegal (assuming they have done so). My question is, what limitations are there in counter surveillance? I don't want to break the law in trying to catch them at their own game. I intend to purchase equipment to test if my house has been "bugged" and also my own surveillance equipment to monitor my house and property. Is there any laws (California) limiting me in this activity? I intend to prosecute them if I uncover ANYTHING which I can prove they are involved in against me. I also want to record the conversations and verbal harrassment they spew at me. I have to wear earplugs in my own home just to ignore their verbal assaults and am now going to the bathroom with a blanket covering me just to assure a little privacy!! Do I have any recourse here?
    My neighbors are spying on me also. I am bisexual and practice ritual magick. Maybe my chanting got them paranoid as they deal pot. They are able to here me whisper because I get reactions from them through the walls. They are turning the whole neighborhood against me and trying to get me to move.
    I sent for a device which claims to block surveilance devices, but I haven't got it yet. I haven't been attacked by anyone yet, but everyday they try to intimidate me and try to provoke me to fight. Advice from anyone would be appreciated.

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    Hello everyone,
    First of all,thank you very much for the useful info and links.
    I've recently discovered I am being gangstalked. Things have been pretty strange in my life for the past few years and but at least now I have a better idea as to why. I don't know exactly why I'm being gangstalked,but I do know it is based on lies and malicious perpetuated by an ex-girlfriend who has successfully made my life more difficult than need be.I'm in the process of doing something about this but this is very difficult.
    For more info see : gangstalking.ca
    It's pretty disturbing stuff...but at least you will know that you are not alone.
    I wish everyone the best of luck in finding peace in their lives.
    Greetings,
    Andrew

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    I know what your are going through. My original stalkers are a large corporation in San Diego that has a history of harrassing people. I did not fit in with those nazi's and as a result I got "black listed" from just about the entire planet. 'They' have broke into my car,truck and house. 'They' follow me everwhere I go and slander me. This has been going on for about two years. This has taken place in three different states and one other country. It is now apparent that 'they' have invited corporate America into this witch hunt as well ie: nation wide health club and financial institutions. 'They' also recruit neighbors strangers and even a postal worker. 'They' know every conversation that I have and know where I'm going before I even get there. 'They' have even used some form of electronic harrassment on me. 'They' leave trash on my car, make lots of wrong number calls, do drive by digital picture taking and even street theatre. I do have some proof of criminal wrongdoing and I hope to take them to court some day. We who are in the targeted community need to get together and take these stalkers down one at a time.

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    I have asked a local news station to cover mine and others story. I am not from MN, but moved here approx. 4 years ago. I have been harrassed and slandered by my immediate neighbors since we moved in, they have even approached my son and tried to invite him into their house and offered candy if he would come until I caught them. They have been caught in my garage, looking through my mail, and breaking into my fence in my backyard. But it is their word against mine. My husband and I just lost a HRO hearing because of lack of evidence. We spent $2K on court and legal fees, $1.4K on a security system, but now they are vandalizing other houses in the neighborhood (who they call their freinds) and calling the police and saying they saw me or my husband doing it. My situation is not unusual and it is very difficult to get these things approved in courts. However, I am also worried about what they will do next, now that they "won". I don't know how to legally take the offensive, my attorney does not want to do an appeal because he doesn't think the MN appellate court is tolerant of Harrassment appeals. I have never experienced adults behaving like this - especially ones that are not related to each other. I find it hard to believe that I am their only victim, but how to do I find out who else they have harrassed?

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    I see clearly now that in my particular situation I am going to have to join forces with others who are being harrassed by these goofballs. If I had others in a like situation it would be quit easy to gather more evidence. I am curious...you took them to court and it was not successful...what sort of proof did you have that you presented to the court (if you don't mind me asking)? I do have some proof but I think that this corporation will fight me tooth and nail in court but seeing as they won't go away it is what I must do.

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    You ask if I had evidence, yes and no. I did not call the police all the time because it seemed a little ridiculous to call the police and say someone was calling your names. They never hurt my son, just terrorized him and showed up at his school in the parking lot. Also, if I caught them on my property they would deny it to the police, even pictures don't hold up in court. My problem wasn't that they actually denied everything, my problem in court was that they played a sympathy card "we are neighbors and we have kids the same age, we just want our kids to play nice together, we don't understand why she doesn't like us. Yes, she asked us to leave [several times], but we don't understand why? We just want to be friends . . . ." The problem was they don't have kids the same age (they lied), etc. Many judges do not like harrassment restraining orders, especially between family members and neighbors. The judge told me that my case was "the most ridiculous waste of his time" and that I should just learn to get along with people. My attorney kept me from completely dictating the 8 pages of small type documented evidence because if the judge didn't authorize the order then I couldn't use the remaining material when I refiled.

    Just last weekend, someone mysteriously broke all the lawn sprinkler heads on the neighbor's friend's houses. Guess who got blamed for it. Yep, me! So they have switched tactics to vandalizing other's homes and blaming it on me. I am taking the offensive. I live in a beautiful home that I am forced to move out of - much earlier than I had expected - and my son is afraid to ride his bike or even be in the backyard because of the "bad" neighbors. They knew everything about me (because he had stolen my mail and stalked me), now I know everything about them, including where they work by paying a PI service. I don't have to do anything illegal, I can just be aware and be prepared to tape, photograph, and record all activity so I have a 1) video camera 2) a realator that asked for name and address verification - via driver's license - before making appts to see my home 3) I have had the security team at my work search phone and email records to ensure who has had communication with them so I can avoid or be aware. I am also attempting to find out where they used to live. I have a hard time believing their activities have been dedicated soley to me.

    I know that has a professional woman who owns and managed two successful businesses, I don't have a lot of spare time and I will not allow them to ruin any more of my sleep or hurt my businesses. My son is another matter, he has nightmares.

    Friends and family who have never had this happen to them immediately blame the victim (what has she done to deserve this? This can't possibly be true, nobody acts that way!) It's hard and frustrating. I am still petitioning a local news station to report on this type of harrassment and why the courts don't grant the restraining orders. I will eventually win and be better off, it just seems a long, expensive time to wait. To further complicate things, I live in "Minneosta Nice", where people just don't want to get involved, avoid direct conflict at all costs, and seem to forget unpleasant occasions, so everyone else in my neighborhood just turns their head when something happens.

    I wish I had some legal way to intimidate them right back! Since my existence in this world seems to be their problem, if I could safely and legally make my existence bug them even more, so they would move, that would make the last Christmas gift I would ever ask for!

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    Investigate them and their families. Go to [url]www.zabasearch.com and gain knowledge of them in a general sense. Provoke them indirectly and get them to retaliate in which you already have a trap set for them. I hate myself for thinking like them but I will try to catch them in a criminal act against me and that will be the end to their crimes against humanity!!!! FIGHT fire with fire....but make it legal!!!!!
    Last edited by tryingtofightback; 08-17-2005 at 05:36 PM.

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    Good move, Trying. So good in fact that it could be considered stalking.
    I don't believe what I write, and neither should you. Information furnished to you is for debate purposes only, be sure to verify with your own research.
    Keep in mind that the information provided may not be worth any more than either a politician's promise or what you paid for it (nothing).
    I also may not have been either sane or sober when I wrote it down.
    Don't worry, be happy.

    http://www.rcfp.org/taping/index.html is a good resource!

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