Can this tree be saved? [LIGHTNING DAMAGE PIX]

[Ignoramus8786]

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy
is nowhere in sight...

The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my
2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am)

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/

Thankfully, both of my computers were protected by UPSes.

The tree destroyed was a huge 200 year old oak.

Pieces of that oak were strewn 50 yards away.

i

[MF]

While not an arborist, or a psychologist (interesting choice of crosspost
locations) I think it will probably survive since it does not have damage
all the way around. Hopefully it will heal up before any borers can inflict
damage. Good luck!
"Ignoramus8786" <ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnbggo8h.hjj.ignoramus8786@manifold.algebra .com...

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy is nowhere in sight... The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my 2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am) http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/ Thankfully, both of my computers were protected by UPSes. The tree destroyed was a huge 200 year old oak. Pieces of that oak were strewn 50 yards away. i

[Ignoramus8786]

Thanks LG, I am greatly hoping that the tree will live.

And yes, indeed it saved the house. Ours is right on top of the local
hill (a relatively small hill but nevertheless at the highest
elevation).

i

In article <g8rggvc0bnkpm5l9j4fjipk63b5idpl9uk@4ax.com>, Lawrence Glickman wrote:

On 6 Jul 2003 17:49:05 GMT, Ignoramus8786<ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote:|Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy|is nowhere in sight...||The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my|2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am)||http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/||Thankfully, both of my computers were protected by UPSes.||The tree destroyed was a huge 200 year old oak.||Pieces of that oak were strewn 50 yards away.||i Consider the probability that the tree saved your house. Small price to pay? To answer your question, the tree WILL LIVE. I have one near me just like that. It will get along quite well if you just leave it alone. Lg

[Lawrence Glickman]

On 6 Jul 2003 18:50:17 GMT, Ignoramus8786
<ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote:

|Thanks LG, I am greatly hoping that the tree will live.

It will be fine. I can take photos of one near me ( within 1/2 a
block ) that is in exactly the same situation. It is growing just
fine. Years after the hit. I only don't have anywhere to post the
photos.

Don't worry about it. Nature is resilient.

Lg

['Captain' Kirk DeHaan]

On 6 Jul 2003 18:50:17 GMT, Ignoramus8786
<ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote:

Thanks LG, I am greatly hoping that the tree will live.And yes, indeed it saved the house. Ours is right on top of the localhill (a relatively small hill but nevertheless at the highestelevation).

Being on the highest elevation does not always mean you are the best
target. Lightning is a strange beast and can pick one person out of a
crowd of thousands to hit. A girl at a concert was hit by lightning
even though the stadium and light towers provided a much better path
to ground.

iIn article <g8rggvc0bnkpm5l9j4fjipk63b5idpl9uk@4ax.com>, Lawrence Glickman wrote:

Kirk

"Moe, Larry, the cheese!", Curly

www.sandpoint.net/captkirk
www.stormyacres.com

[Xenos the elder]

Ignoramus8786 wrote:

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guyis nowhere in sight...The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am)http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/Thankfully, both of my computers were protected by UPSes.The tree destroyed was a huge 200 year old oak.Pieces of that oak were strewn 50 yards away.i

You have to cover the exposed part of the stem with something otherwise
the tree will dry out.
I don't remember with what but a professional gardener should know.

[renato luciani]

Ignoramus8786 <ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote in message news:<slrnbggrr8.jqg.ignoramus8786@manifold.algebr a.com>...

Thanks LG, I am greatly hoping that the tree will live. And yes, indeed it saved the house. Ours is right on top of the local hill (a relatively small hill but nevertheless at the highest elevation).

I agree with LG, since only one side of the tree looks affected,
probably the tree will survive.
I think you've been lucky it was nightime, no one around...
remember a couple of years ago, in a park near Milan an even
bigger tree (but it wasn't an oak )was hit and actually exploded.
Only the roots remained, the trunk and branches disappeared,
several people were wounded by debris an a girl 100 mt far
was hit by a chunk and died <<
r.l.

[Ignoramus8786]

In article <3e3d9fd1.0307061311.37ebffa0@posting.google.com >, renato luciani wrote:

Ignoramus8786 <ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote in message news:<slrnbggrr8.jqg.ignoramus8786@manifold.algebr a.com>...

I agree with LG, since only one side of the tree looks affected, probably the tree will survive. I think you've been lucky it was nightime, no one around... remember a couple of years ago, in a park near Milan an even bigger tree (but it wasn't an oak )was hit and actually exploded. Only the roots remained, the trunk and branches disappeared, several people were wounded by debris an a girl 100 mt far was hit by a chunk and died << r.l.

I am glad that my tree exploded away from the house. Otherwise windows
would be shattered by flying bark.

i

[B]

I would go out there with at least a gallon of the black sticky stuff to
protect the bare wood from all manner of bugs and varments.
-Bruce

"Ignoramus8786" <ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnbggo8h.hjj.ignoramus8786@manifold.algebra .com...

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy is nowhere in sight... The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my 2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am) http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/ Thankfully, both of my computers were protected by UPSes. The tree destroyed was a huge 200 year old oak. Pieces of that oak were strewn 50 yards away. i

[Lawrence Glickman]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:59:34 GMT, "B" <nospamblam@nc.rr.com> wrote:

|I would go out there with at least a gallon of the black sticky stuff to
|protect the bare wood from all manner of bugs and varments.
|-Bruce

Actually, that is NOT a good idea.
Forestry people have told me it is best to let it heal by itself.
Painting it with creosote or such isn't a good idea, in -their-
opinion.

Same with limbing a tree. Leave it exposed. Do not paint with
anything. _according_ for U.S. Forest Service.

Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me.

Lg

['Captain' Kirk DeHaan]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:07:49 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<lglickman@ameritech.net> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:59:34 GMT, "B" <nospamblam@nc.rr.com> wrote:|I would go out there with at least a gallon of the black sticky stuff to|protect the bare wood from all manner of bugs and varments.|-BruceActually, that is NOT a good idea.Forestry people have told me it is best to let it heal by itself.Painting it with creosote or such isn't a good idea, in -their-opinion.Same with limbing a tree. Leave it exposed. Do not paint withanything. _according_ for U.S. Forest Service.Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me.Lg

The same group that has let our forests become tinder boxes ready to
explode?



Kirk

"Moe, Larry, the cheese!", Curly

www.sandpoint.net/captkirk
www.stormyacres.com

[Lawrence Glickman]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 18:17:50 -0700, 'Captain' Kirk DeHaan
<captkirkREMOVEME@sandpoint.net> wrote:

|The same group that has let our forests become tinder boxes ready to
|explode?

Yah, the same nitwits.
Now you got me to thinkin......

[Tom Jaszewski]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:59:34 GMT, "B" <nospamblam@nc.rr.com> wrote:

I would go out there with at least a gallon of the black sticky stuff toprotect the bare wood from all manner of bugs and varments.-Bruce

NO!!!! tar would be far more damaging, most of the vascular system is
in place. What borer attacks oak?

[Tai]

Ignoramus8786 wrote:

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy is nowhere in sight... The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my 2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am) http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/

Hey, cool, Igor has his own "blasted oak"!

You realise this is probably a message from God, warning you about your evil
cross-posting habits, don't you?

I think you should wait for the tree professional's opinion but if the tree
wasn't fried outright, and it hasn't been ring-barked or structurally
weakened then the main thing to worry about is preventing disease getting
into the exposed wood. However, it looks as if the tree is pretty close to
your house. You need to be sure it isn't going to weaken and fall on your
house (or some innocent passerby).

You have some grand trees around your property, I hope this one can be
saved.

Tai

[Temily]

"Tai" said:

You realise this is probably a message from God, warning you about your

evil

cross-posting habits, don't you?

Tai!!! Hi there!!! Gee, if this hadn't been cross posted, i wouldn't have
seen you!!! How are you??? I haven't been to asm lately, been hanging out
here at asd, but oh - nice to see another true blue here, 'oh what a
feeling'! haha!

Temily

[Tai]

Temily wrote:

"Tai" said:

Tai!!! Hi there!!! Gee, if this hadn't been cross posted, i wouldn't have seen you!!! How are you???

I'm well, Temily, thanks for asking. We've just had a short holiday away
since the children are off school for these two weeks so I'm feeling
rested - especially since I didn't change a single nappy the whole time!
(Lovely man, my husband. ) )


I haven't been to asm lately, been

hanging out here at asd, but oh - nice to see another true blue here, 'oh what a feeling'! haha!

LOL

What have you been up to? I hope all is going well for you on your side of
the "island".

Tai

[Temily]

"Tai" said:

I'm well, Temily, thanks for asking. We've just had a short holiday away since the children are off school for these two weeks so I'm feeling rested - especially since I didn't change a single nappy the whole time! (Lovely man, my husband. ) )
What have you been up to? I hope all is going well for you on your side

of

the "island".

My kiddli's are away too..one in the Antarctic..and one in NZ!!! I'm off to
Victoria next week :-) so we're all being 'getabouts' !! Tis always good to
have a break....and yup it's nice being on holiday!

It's always great to 'read' you...and to hear your positive attitude! No
nappy changing - whoooo :-)) Yes, you're a lucky gal having a hubby like
that :-)

See you in asm, x

Temily

[Ignoramus9242]

In article <ju8Oa.449$Xx6.9845@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Temily wrote:

"Tai" said:

evil

Tai!!! Hi there!!! Gee, if this hadn't been cross posted, i wouldn't have seen you!!! How are you??? I haven't been to asm lately, been hanging out here at asd, but oh - nice to see another true blue here, 'oh what a feeling'! haha! Temily

See, here are the benefits of crossposting, bringing people closer
together.

i

[Jim Mc Namara]

"Ignoramus8786" <ignoramus8786@NOSPAM.8786.invalid> wrote in message:

Would like to know if you think ths tree can be saved... our tree guy is nowhere in sight... The blasts we heard last night were tremendous, ear shattering. Yet my 2 yo son slept through all that! (around 3 am)

I would let nature take its course (looks as though it already has now.) I
wouldn't paint it, coat it, or do anything to it other than keep an eye on
any type of disease it might be subject to during the healing process. If
you have any signs of any of this - treat accordingly. After all - it's
been around for over 200 years so far - and as the pictures tell the story -
it appears that the bark was blown off. Keep an eye on infestation of
insects on the white strips of exposed wood - this is the softest part of
the oak and easily attacked.

However, if anyone here cares to discuss the benefits of the divorce,
marriage, or survivalism since that was greatly cross-posted - I'm all ears.
:-)

Jim

[Temily]

"Ignoramus9242" said:

See, here are the benefits of crossposting, bringing people closer together.

That's true! Personally, i've never actually had a problem with cross
posting but i know of those who have....can't remember the details but i
think i even got 'scrutinized' for cross posting once! Gee. Some people can
be so pedantic!

Temily

[Temily]

<Empress Otku> said:

One thing about Igor's crossposting, I get such a kick out of seeing Tim May posting to alt.support.marriage.

Yeah! I looked at Tim May posting and it looked funny to me too!

Temily

[Ignoramus9242]

In article <070720030948422060%timcmay@removethis.got.net>, Tim May wrote:

In article <slrnbgispu.dfv.ignoramus9242@manifold.algebra.com >, Ignoramus9242 <ignoramus9242@NOSPAM.9242.invalid> wrote: ...

You need to get your story straight. In an early post you say the tree was destroyed, now you say "only a strip of bark was blown away."

I thought, in the beginning, that the tree was "destroyed", that is,
not survivable. Now it appears that perhaps it is actually survivable.

i