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Hi everyone.
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me? Thanks in advance, Joe in Florida |
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"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Without prejudice" would mean that they are abandoning the case for now, but could come back and prosecute him again if they wanted to for some reason. Stu |
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"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> writes:
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it's over. If it was dismissed w/o prejudice, the DA could choose to re-file it at a later time. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us |
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Son of OP Joe ("Darth Ferret") was charged with driving under a
suspended license. The case was dismissed with prejudice and Joe asks: Quote:
it. If the person whose action was dismissed doesn't like the dismissal, he has to appeal the dismissal, not just file again. By comparison, a case dismissed without prejudice may be refiled. (The judge may dismiss without prejudice to allow for certain procedural defects to be corrected.) In the matter of Empire v. Luke Ferret, "with prejudice" is good news for your son. -- I am not your lawyer. This is not legal advice. Luke, *I* am not your father. |
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In article <mj0462p6boculuhvsj1aof6vivmriamt51@4ax.com>,
Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote: Quote:
being refiled. That is, they can't open the case again later. Seth |
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Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
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the clear on that particular charge and can stop worrying about it. "Without prejudice" would have meant that the prosecution could, if they thought it worthwhile, fix whatever was wrong with their case and try again. "With prejudice" is final. None of this will protect your son if he does it again, however. I think it would be a good idea for him to not get behind the wheel of a car -- even one that is parked in his driveway with the power off -- until his suspension is over. Otherwise, a cop can cite him again and he will again face prosecution -- and may not get off so lightly because they will know he has done it before. -- I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all. Feel free to use the above variant pledge in your own postings. |
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:14:37 -0400, "Darth Ferret"
<noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote: Quote:
state) will not be allowed to amend and refile the complaint. You gave no details about what happened, but it sounds like your son has gotten a pass. My email address is LLM041103 at earthlink dot net. |
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Darth Ferret wrote:
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dismissed and cannot be brought again in a new proceeding if the prosecutors change their mind. It is a dismissal "on the merits" which means your son WINS completely and does not have to worry about facing these charges again for the same set of facts. If the dismissal were "without prejudice" as is sometimes done when procedure allows it, before the trial actually begins (and before double jeopardy would kick in), the state CAN bring the charges again if they feel like it. So, from the point of view of the criminal defendant, dismissal "with prejudice" is by far the better option. Of course, if your son continues to drive on a suspended license and gets stopped AGAIN, the dismissal of the first charges in no way prevents the State from prosecuting him for the SECOND, separate offense. Just a word to the wise. -- This posting is for discussion purposes, not professional advice. Anything you post on this Newsgroup is public information. I am not your lawyer, and you are not my client in any specific legal matter. For confidential professional advice, consult your own lawyer in a private communication. Mike Jacobs LAW OFFICE OF W. MICHAEL JACOBS 10440 Little Patuxent Pkwy #300 Columbia, MD 21044 (tel) 410-740-5685 (fax) 410-740-4300 |
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"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
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lawsuit or other proceeding that was dismissed "with prejudice" will not be permitted to sue the same person in the same court for the same or basically the same relief based on the same or basically the same claim so (ii) that if such a lawsuit or other later proceeding is attempted anyway, proof by the defendant or respondent of the above elements almost certainly will result in the second lawsuit's/proceedings dismissal (with prejudice). Contrast a lawsuit dismissed "without prejudice" so that, in such case, a second lawsuit against the same person for the same or basically the same relief based on the same or basically the same alleged facts may be brought and prosecuted (unless at the time there is some other principle of law that requires its dismissal - e.g., that the applicable statute of limitations has expired). |
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Wed, 10 May 2006 11:14:37 -0400 from Darth Ferret
<noneavailable@hotmail.com>: Quote:
"Dismissed without prejudice" means it could be filed again if the prosecution doesn't make whatever mistake got it dismissed in the first place. Quote:
-- If you e-mail me from a fake address, your fingers will drop off. I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. When you read anything legal on the net, always verify it on your own, in light of your particular circumstances. You may also need to consult a lawyer. Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com |
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Darth Ferret wrote:
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If the dismissal had been without prejudice, the prosecutor could have again filed the same charge(s) from that incident. |
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Darth Ferret wrote:
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for your son. -paul |
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Joe,
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A court case that is dismissed with prejudice can not be retried at a later date. It is over, done, finished. Good luck, Dave M. |
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Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
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prejudice" means it can be. Example: I'm in court and the evidence is thrown out for some reason. The charge is dismissed without prejudice due to lack of evidence, meaning they can possibly find other evidence and re-charge me. But if I'm in court and it's dismissed with prejudice (let's say speedy trial law says the trial must start in 3 months and it's been 6 with no waiver of speedy trial,) they can't charge me again for the same crime. -- Mike ------------------------------- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we," George W. "Shrub" Bush Aug 5, 2004 |
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This mean that they cannot hold this against him......Good for him........."with prejudice" means they can hold this agianst him at a later date................He should be fine, they cannot come back on this later!!
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Another way to say this in a criminal case is that the judge ruled that jeopardy is attached. Any attempt to file the case again is double jeopardy.
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