Labor Law Talk  
Complete Labor Law Poster for $24.95
from www.LaborLawCenter.com, includes
State, Federal, & OSHA posting requirements

Go Back   Labor Law Talk > Courts > Small Claim Court

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-10-2006, 08:14 AM
Darth Ferret Darth Ferret is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Hi everyone.

My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with
prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone
tell me?

Thanks in advance,
Joe in Florida

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Stuart Bronstein Stuart Bronstein is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 843
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
"With prejudice" means the case is over. They can never file it again.

Without prejudice" would mean that they are abandoning the case for
now, but could come back and prosecute him again if they wanted to for
some reason.

Stu

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Rich Carreiro Rich Carreiro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 96
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> writes:
Quote:
Hi everyone. My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
It means the prosecution can't re-file the case. In other words,
it's over. If it was dismissed w/o prejudice, the DA could choose
to re-file it at a later time.

--
Rich Carreiro rlcarr@animato.arlington.ma.us

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Son of OP Joe ("Darth Ferret") was charged with driving under a
suspended license. The case was dismissed with prejudice and Joe asks:
Quote:
[What is] "dismissed with prejudice"[?]
Case dismissed and person who brought the case doesn't get to re-file
it. If the person whose action was dismissed doesn't like the
dismissal, he has to appeal the dismissal, not just file again.

By comparison, a case dismissed without prejudice may be refiled. (The
judge may dismiss without prejudice to allow for certain procedural
defects to be corrected.)

In the matter of Empire v. Luke Ferret, "with prejudice" is good news
for your son.
--
I am not your lawyer. This is not legal advice.
Luke, *I* am not your father.

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Seth Breidbart Seth Breidbart is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,049
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

In article <mj0462p6boculuhvsj1aof6vivmriamt51@4ax.com>,
Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed withprejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Cansomeone tell me?
"With prejudice" means the legal system is prejudiced against the case
being refiled. That is, they can't open the case again later.

Seth

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Barry Gold Barry Gold is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 424
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed withprejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someonetell me?
"With prejudice" means it can't be refiled. IOW, your son is now in
the clear on that particular charge and can stop worrying about it.

"Without prejudice" would have meant that the prosecution could, if
they thought it worthwhile, fix whatever was wrong with their case and
try again. "With prejudice" is final.

None of this will protect your son if he does it again, however. I
think it would be a good idea for him to not get behind the wheel of a
car -- even one that is parked in his driveway with the power off --
until his suspension is over. Otherwise, a cop can cite him again and
he will again face prosecution -- and may not get off so lightly
because they will know he has done it before.
--
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and
to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising
liberty and justice for all.
Feel free to use the above variant pledge in your own postings.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Jonathan Sachs Jonathan Sachs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 118
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:14:37 -0400, "Darth Ferret"
<noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed withprejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someonetell me?
It means that the complaining party (in this case, I assume, the
state) will not be allowed to amend and refile the complaint. You
gave no details about what happened, but it sounds like your son has
gotten a pass.

My email address is LLM041103 at earthlink dot net.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Mike Jacobs Mike Jacobs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 160
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Darth Ferret wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
It means the State's case, which they brought against your son, was
dismissed and cannot be brought again in a new proceeding if the
prosecutors change their mind. It is a dismissal "on the merits"
which means your son WINS completely and does not have to worry about
facing these charges again for the same set of facts.

If the dismissal were "without prejudice" as is sometimes done when
procedure allows it, before the trial actually begins (and before
double jeopardy would kick in), the state CAN bring the charges again
if they feel like it. So, from the point of view of the criminal
defendant, dismissal "with prejudice" is by far the better option.

Of course, if your son continues to drive on a suspended license and
gets stopped AGAIN, the dismissal of the first charges in no way
prevents the State from prosecuting him for the SECOND, separate
offense. Just a word to the wise.

--
This posting is for discussion purposes, not professional advice.
Anything you post on this Newsgroup is public information.
I am not your lawyer, and you are not my client in any specific legal
matter.
For confidential professional advice, consult your own lawyer in a
private communication.
Mike Jacobs
LAW OFFICE OF W. MICHAEL JACOBS
10440 Little Patuxent Pkwy #300
Columbia, MD 21044
(tel) 410-740-5685 (fax) 410-740-4300

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Guest
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

"Darth Ferret" <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
What does "dismissed with prejudice" mean?
It means (i) that the person or agency suing in whatever is the
lawsuit or other proceeding that was dismissed "with prejudice" will
not be permitted to sue the same person in the same court for the same
or basically the same relief based on the same or basically the same
claim so (ii) that if such a lawsuit or other later proceeding is
attempted anyway, proof by the defendant or respondent of the above
elements almost certainly will result in the second
lawsuit's/proceedings dismissal (with prejudice).

Contrast a lawsuit dismissed "without prejudice" so that, in such
case, a second lawsuit against the same person for the same or
basically the same relief based on the same or basically the same
alleged facts may be brought and prosecuted (unless at the time there
is some other principle of law that requires its dismissal - e.g.,
that the applicable statute of limitations has expired).

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Stan Brown Stan Brown is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 982
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Wed, 10 May 2006 11:14:37 -0400 from Darth Ferret
<noneavailable@hotmail.com>:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
"Dismissed with prejudice" means it can't be filed again.

"Dismissed without prejudice" means it could be filed again if the
prosecution doesn't make whatever mistake got it dismissed in the
first place.
Quote:
From the defendant's (your son's) point of view, "with prejudice" is
good because it means he got off, free and clear.

--
If you e-mail me from a fake address, your fingers will drop off.

I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. When you read anything
legal on the net, always verify it on your own, in light of your
particular circumstances. You may also need to consult a lawyer.

Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
A Michigan Attorney A Michigan Attorney is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 104
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Darth Ferret wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
It means that the charge(s) from that incident cannot be filed again.
If the dismissal had been without prejudice, the prosecutor could have
again filed the same charge(s) from that incident.

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
Paul Cassel Paul Cassel is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 74
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Darth Ferret wrote:
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
The case is closed - cannot be brought to trial again. It's a GOOD thing
for your son.

-paul

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-11-2006, 07:32 AM
David Martel David Martel is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 631
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Joe,
Quote:
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?

A court case that is dismissed with prejudice can not be retried at a
later date. It is over, done, finished.

Good luck,
Dave M.

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-13-2006, 10:35 AM
Mike Mike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 197
Default What is dismissed "with prejudice"

Darth Ferret <noneavailable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi everyone.
My son's case for driving on suspended license was "dismissed with prejudice". I have no idea what the "with prejudice" term means. Can someone tell me?
"With prejudice" means the charge can't be broght up again. "Without
prejudice" means it can be.

Example: I'm in court and the evidence is thrown out for some reason. The
charge is dismissed without prejudice due to lack of evidence, meaning they
can possibly find other evidence and re-charge me. But if I'm in court and
it's dismissed with prejudice (let's say speedy trial law says the trial
must start in 3 months and it's been 6 with no waiver of speedy trial,) they
can't charge me again for the same crime.

--
Mike

-------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we," George W. "Shrub" Bush Aug 5, 2004

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-04-2007, 04:13 PM
ms_titaniclady ms_titaniclady is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1
Default with prejudice

This mean that they cannot hold this against him......Good for him........."with prejudice" means they can hold this agianst him at a later date................He should be fine, they cannot come back on this later!!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-04-2007, 11:35 PM
Troubleshooter Troubleshooter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,778
Default

Another way to say this in a criminal case is that the judge ruled that jeopardy is attached. Any attempt to file the case again is double jeopardy.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
dismissed cbattle Texas Labor Laws 1 05-13-2006 11:57 AM
Who's responsible for my Ch 13 being dismissed? Trustee or Lawyer? jenn Small Claim Court 0 01-18-2006 06:16 PM
RICO II DISMISSED Krus T. Olfard General legal issues 1 10-27-2004 06:00 PM
Claim of the Abepura victims for compensation dismissed Daeron General legal issues 0 06-22-2004 12:31 AM
Judge Dismissed Many Cases,No Witnesses Lamar Traffic Law 0 01-12-2004 04:34 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© LaborLawTalk.Com 2008. All Rights Reserved.
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer and Conditions of Use

The LaborLawTalk.com forum is intended for informational use only and should not be relied upon and is not a substitute for legal advice. The information contained on LaborLawTalk.com are opinions and suggestions of members and is not a representation of the opinions of LaborLawTalk.com. LaborLawTalk.com does not warrant or vouch for the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any postings or the qualifications of any person responding. Please consult a legal expert or seek the services of an attorney in your area for more accuracy on your specific situation. Please note that some of our forums also serve as mirrors to Usenet newsgroups. Many posts you see on our forums are made by newsgroup users who may not be members of LaborLawTalk.com

Topics pertain mainly to the following States:
Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware District Of Columbia Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada North Carolina North Dakota New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming