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    Hi Am I right in thinking that a NVQ level 3 is equalivent to a
    AQF Diploma? Would a NVQ3 be sufficient for an occupation attracti-
    ng 40 points?

    We would like to emigrate on the 139 visa skilled des area sponsership.
    But need advice on qualifications to obtain postive skills assessment.

    I have one year;s experience in occupation on SOL list.

    Any advice?

    Many thanks

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    nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

    Hi Am I right in thinking that a NVQ level 3 is equalivent to a AQF Diploma? Would a NVQ3 be sufficient for an occupation attracti- ng 40 points? We would like to emigrate on the 139 visa skilled des area sponsershi- p. But need advice on qualifications to obtain postive skills assessment. I have one year;s experience in occupation on SOL list. Any advice? Many thanks
    Hi aud123,
    We are also applying under class 139, my husband has just finished his
    NVQ L3 and the plan was to nominate the AFQ diploma level profession of
    Safety Inspector and have his skills assessed by VETASSESS. Unfortunate-
    ly the NVQ L3 is equivalent to Oz certificate level not AFQ diploma lev-
    el. If you were thinking of using VETASSES there are only two professio-
    ns assessed at certificate level by VETASSESS. Sorry I can't remember
    which two, one has the word metelurgical technician or something like
    that in the job title.

    Perhaps the experts can help.

    ACE

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      nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

      Hi aud123, We are also applying under class 139, my husband has just finished his NVQ L3 and the plan was to nominate the AFQ diploma level profession of Safety Inspector and have his skills assessed by VETASSESS. Unfort- unately the NVQ L3 is equivalent to Oz certificate level not AFQ dipl- oma level. If you were thinking of using VETASSES there are only two professions assessed at certificate level by VETASSESS. Sorry I can't remember which two, one has the word metelurgical technician or somet- hing like that in the job title. Perhaps the experts can help. ACE
      Thanks Ace

      Did you actually go through the process of assessement by VETASSES and
      were rejected or where did you find out his qualifications would not be
      enough? My profession would be residential care Officer and not sure wh-
      at more you would need to be a care officer???Thought level 3 would be
      sufficient..

      Thanks
      Aud123

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        nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

        Hi Am I right in thinking that a NVQ level 3 is equalivent to a AQF Diploma? Would a NVQ3 be sufficient for an occupation attracti- ng 40 points? We would like to emigrate on the 139 visa skilled des area sponsershi- p. But need advice on qualifications to obtain postive skills assessment. I have one year;s experience in occupation on SOL list. Any advice? Many thanks
        Hi:

        I have emails from Vetassess stating that an NVQ3 would generally be co-
        ndsidered comparable to an AQF Diploma.

        I was slightly startled myself, but that is what assessing Officers from
        Vetassess say, although they do say that this is of 'general opinion'
        and they would need to see applicants documentation to make a judgement.

        I personally, having looked into this in great depth, think that the 'e-
        ducational levels' between UK / Australian qualifications cannot be exa-
        ctly matched.

        For example, in the UK a level 4 qualification can cover a number of th-
        ings, HNC, HND, Bachelors degree etc, although this is the 'level' (dif-
        ficulty?), and a degree obviously requires more study hours and contact
        hours etc than BTEC HNC.

        See QCA website

        http://www.qca.org.uk/qualifications/types/493.html

        We are currently getting my wifes qualification assessed by Vetassess
        and are awaiting outcome.

        Interestingly, her qualification has been assessed before by NZQA as eq-
        uivalent to 2 years tertiary study in New Zealand, but people have post-
        ed on this forum that their NVQ3's have failed for NZ.

        I am not convinced that there is a prescriptive answer to this, but if
        you want to PM me, I'll give you some info.

        Steve

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          nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

          Thanks Ace Did you actually go through the process of assessement by VETASSES and were rejected or where did you find out his qualifications would not be enough? My profession would be residential care Officer and not su- re what more you would need to be a care officer???Thought level 3 wo- uld be sufficient.. Thanks Aud123
          One other thing.

          Even if the ASCO codes which Vetassess assess state that the minimum qu-
          alification for that job is a 'certificate' of some sort, for migration
          purposes you must meet AQF diploma level.

          I think the only occupations that certificate level is good for are the
          trades ones.

          Steve

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            nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

            Thanks Ace Did you actually go through the process of assessement by VETASSES and were rejected or where did you find out his qualifications would not be enough? My profession would be residential care Officer and not su- re what more you would need to be a care officer???Thought level 3 wo- uld be sufficient.. Thanks Aud123
            Hi Aud123,
            I went to see my agent on Friday and had a chat about this issue. To be
            honest I thought the NVQ L3 would be acceptable, it may well be that so-
            me VETASSES employees will pass an NVQ L3 as equivalent to an AFQ diplo-
            ma. My agent showed me a database with detailed discriptions of occupat-
            ions on the VETASSESS list. There were only two assessed at certificate
            level and he was adamant that NVQ L3 is not regarded as being equal to
            an AFQ diploma. He is an excellent agent very highly recommended by mem-
            ebers and agents on this forum, I think he wants to be thorough and get
            it right first.

            I hope yours goes through OK
            ACE

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              nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

              Hi: I have emails from Vetassess stating that an NVQ3 would generally be condsidered comparable to an AQF Diploma. I was slightly startled myself, but that is what assessing Officers from Vetassess say, although they do say that this is of 'general opi- nion' and they would need to see applicants documentation to make a judgement. I personally, having looked into this in great depth, think that the 'educational levels' between UK / Australian qualifications cannot be exactly matched. For example, in the UK a level 4 qualification can cover a number of things, HNC, HND, Bachelors degree etc, although this is the 'level' (difficulty?), and a degree obviously requires more study hours and contact hours etc than BTEC HNC. See QCA website http://www.qca.org.uk/qualifications/types/493.html We are currently getting my wifes qualification assessed by Vetassess and are awaiting outcome. Interestingly, her qualification has been assessed before by NZQA as equivalent to 2 years tertiary study in New Zealand, but people have posted on this forum that their NVQ3's have failed for NZ. I am not convinced that there is a prescriptive answer to this, but if you want to PM me, I'll give you some info. Steve
              I agree, It's a real mime field isn't it? I hope your wife's assessment
              goes through OK

              ACE

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                nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                Hi Aud123, I went to see my agent on Friday and had a chat about this issue. To be honest I thought the NVQ L3 would be acceptable, it may well be th- at some VETASSES employees will pass an NVQ L3 as equivalent to an AFQ diploma. My agent showed me a database with detailed discriptions of occupations on the VETASSESS list. There were only two assessed at ce- rtificate level and he was adamant that NVQ L3 is not regarded as bei- ng equal to an AFQ diploma. He is an excellent agent very highly reco- mmended by memebers and agents on this forum, I think he wants to be thorough and get it right first. I hope yours goes through OK ACE
                I agree that an NVQ3 is probably hit and miss, whereas something like an
                HND would be much more certain. A number of people have also had positi-
                ve assessments for HNC's

                There is at least one person who posts here who got positive assessment
                with a BTEC National Certificate, this is a level 3 qualification (a le-
                vel below the Higher National Certificate)

                whether this was a mistake on Vetassess's part or not, it was a 20 week,
                5 hour per week course at the same level on the National qualifications
                Framewrk as an NVQ3

                If you have no other option I'd go for it. At a cost of 130 or so it-
                's worth it.

                Steve

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                  nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                  One other thing. Even if the ASCO codes which Vetassess assess state that the minimum qualification for that job is a 'certificate' of some sort, for migra- tion purposes you must meet AQF diploma level. I think the only occupations that certificate level is good for are the trades ones. Steve
                  Steve,

                  you got me a bit worried now. I have been positive assessed by Vetassess
                  as Building Associate Professional nec, for which a Certificate IV is
                  minimum requirement. I had formerly been negative assessed for another
                  occupation, for which an AQF diplioma is required.

                  Are you saying that although I have a this positive skills assessment
                  from Vetasses, Dimia might not accept it?

                  Lavinia

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                    nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                    Steve, you got me a bit worried now. I have been positive assessed by Vetass- ess as Building Associate Professional nec, for which a Certificate IV is minimum requirement. I had formerly been negative assessed for ano- ther occupation, for which an AQF diplioma is required. Are you saying that although I have a this positive skills assessment from Vetasses, Dimia might not accept it? Lavinia
                    Hi:

                    NO. You have a positive assessment. That's fine I'm sure.

                    What I was saying, and I think I'm right is, if you look at the ASCO de-
                    scriptions of the occupations that Vetassess assess, it mentions the qu-
                    alification required and alsoa bit about work experience etc. It then
                    mentions the tasks for that occupation.

                    I think that the only bit that is really relevant to you are the task-
                    s, which, if you are using that occupation as your work experience for
                    DIMIA you need to makesure that you broadly cover those tasks in your
                    occupation.

                    What I was saying is that I think one needs the minimum of an AFQ Diplo-
                    ma equivalant to get a successful assessment, regardless of the require-
                    ment stated in the ASCO code.

                    If that makes sense.

                    Steve

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                      nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                      Steve, you got me a bit worried now. I have been positive assessed by Vetass- ess as Building Associate Professional nec, for which a Certificate IV is minimum requirement. I had formerly been negative assessed for ano- ther occupation, for which an AQF diplioma is required. Are you saying that although I have a this positive skills assessment from Vetasses, Dimia might not accept it? Lavinia
                      If one looks on the Vetassess website it states that 40 point occupatio-
                      ns require AQF Diploma or above.

                      You have been assessed as meeting that criteria.

                      So.......You applied for assessment twice, on two different 40 point oc-
                      cupations and got one pass and one fail, with the same qualification.

                      Could you email or PM me the details

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                        nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                        Steve, you got me a bit worried now. I have been positive assessed by Vetass- ess as Building Associate Professional nec, for which a Certificate IV is minimum requirement. I had formerly been negative assessed for ano- ther occupation, for which an AQF diplioma is required. Are you saying that although I have a this positive skills assessment from Vetasses, Dimia might not accept it? Lavinia
                        If you look on page 32 of Booklet 6 from DIMIA it states

                        to nominate a 40 point occupation - "you must have a qualification equi-
                        valiant to an australian diploma or advanced diploma, (but it need not
                        be specifically related to your nominated occupation)

                        So the ASCO descriptor qualification requirement is not the same as get-
                        ting assessed for migration.

                        But your qualification has been assessed as suitable for your nominated
                        occupation so no problem.

                        Steve

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                          nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                          If you look on page 32 of Booklet 6 from DIMIA it states to nominate a 40 point occupation - "you must have a qualification eq- uivaliant to an australian diploma or advanced diploma, (but it need not be specifically related to your nominated occupation) So the ASCO descriptor qualification requirement is not the same as getting assessed for migration. But your qualification has been assessed as suitable for your nominat- ed occupation so no problem. Steve
                          Thanks Steve for that quick response and for putting me straight again!
                          This migration thing is sort of a rollercoaster, isn't it!!!

                          Lavinia

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                            Thanks Steve for that quick response and for putting me straight agai- n! This migration thing is sort of a rollercoaster, isn't it!!! Lavinia
                            Indeed it is.

                            What qualification did you get assessed, and against what occupations?

                            Congrats on getting a positive one though.

                            Steve

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                              nvq 3 equalivent to aqf diploma

                              Indeed it is. What qualification did you get assessed, and against what occupations? Congrats on getting a positive one though. Steve
                              Hi Steve,
                              A level 4 qualification corresponds to ONLY the FIRST completed year of
                              an undergraduate degree in the UK. A completed UK degree is classed as
                              educational level 6.

                              Hope this helps
                              Lesley

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