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  • #16
    feel no hope Vermont, wake up!


    Originally posted by jeffreyhy
    b24, Perhaps the
    best solution to this problem would be to eliminate the time estimate on
    the NOAs and the Status Online altogether. The SCs don't know how long
    it's going to take, they can't know how long it's going to take - that's
    the nature of the job.
    Perhaps we'd all be best off if the USCIS
    simply published the processing date reports, "this is what we're
    working on now". That's the only real known at any given point in time.
    Regards, JEff
    Been saying this myself for years now,
    and I agree 100% with you on this one JEff.


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    • #17
      feel no hope Vermont, wake up!


      Originally posted by 156thSt.
      Because we progressed so
      far in to the procedure, gave them what they wanted, and now it seems we
      will have to wait the full time period again.

      Are you saying
      you received an RFE (request for additional evidence) for your
      submission?


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      • #18
        feel no hope Vermont, wake up!


        Matt,

        Yes, you have been trying to educate people on the folly of the
        processing time estimates for ages, and I am dismayed that so few seem
        to learn from your posts. I'm just trying to give you some support on
        the issue.

        Maybe the turnover in forum participation is just too great
        - by the time people learn it's time for them to leave and a new group
        of innocents arrives on the scene.

        Is this how boot camp DIs feel?


        Regards, JEff

        Originally posted by Matthew Udall
        Been
        saying this myself for years now, and I agree 100% with you on this one
        JEff.


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        Of course, the Internet also tells us that hot naked women want to befriend us, so we can't be 100% sure about everything we read there. (Dave Barry)


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        • #19
          feel no hope Vermont, wake up!


          Originally posted by buffalo24
          If Vermont had sent me a
          notice telling me how long it was really going to take, then I'd be
          better prepared to wait, and I'm sure many others would too. But I
          guess for now they are still claiming the short 30-45 days, even though
          it's apparent it is taking longer than that.

          Forget the 30-45
          days written on the notice. USCIS HQ, not the VSC, tells the VSC what to
          list and the VSC does not have the authority to change that listing on
          their notices (And in fact, much of the information that appears on a
          receipt notice comes already preprinted from the Bureau of Printing and
          Engraving, so I think there is a chance they have stacks of boxes on
          pallets containing preprinted I-129f receipt notices listing 30-45
          days... I'll have to remember to ask this question, if the projected
          processing time comes preprinted, the next time I tour a service
          center). At the time they generate the notice, they can't know when the
          case will be processed, so these are basically wild guesses and
          virtually worthless. The printing on your static piece of paper (your
          receipt notice) can't be updated to reflect reality like a web page can.


          The USCIS and thus the VSC "has" delivered a notice to you, via the
          net, of where they are as far as processing is concerned that "is" based
          in reality. I'm talking about the bi-monthly reports. That last report
          shows that the last I-129f taken off of the shelf and given to an
          officer had a notice date of 01/20/04 (you use the "notice" date, not
          the "received" date when using these reports). You indicate your notice
          date is 01/28/04, so therefore as per the date of publication of the
          last report, your case was still on the shelf waiting its turn to be
          given to an officer (and probably pretty close to the front of the
          shelf).

          Perhaps the next VSC report will show a notice date listed that
          is "later in time" than 01/28/04. If so, than you can conclude that your
          case was "likely" given to an officer (I can only say "likely" due to
          the IBIS wrinkle). You would then take the date of publication of that
          report and add 30 business days onto the date of publication of that
          report. That calculation yields your overdue date, and you should start
          complaining to the VSC if your case becomes overdue.

          See how much
          better this system is over something written on a static (un-updateable)
          piece of paper (receipt notice) that due to the very nature of this
          work, could only a wild guess at best?

          And if your case does not get an
          IBIS hit, I'm willing to bet you $5.00 that your case will receive
          initial processing (approval, denial or RFE sent) at the VSC before it
          becomes "overdue". So is it a bet (you have to decide right now, not
          later once the results are in)?


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          • #20
            feel no hope Vermont, wake up!


            Originally posted by 156thSt.
            This feeling of dread and
            sadness continues to weigh us down day after day. This is such an
            ignorant system that you have no recourse, no way to find out just why
            an application gets held up. There is no equity in the way they are
            prepared. We re-sumbitted the **** form and have been waiting too long.
            Why? Because we progressed so far in to the procedure, gave them what
            they wanted, and now it seems we will have to wait the full time period
            again. It's obvious isn't it? But there is no way to talk with a living
            human and get a reasonable answer. This is my frustration and please
            don't tell me how quick Vermont is, if that were true, we'd have gotten
            notification. Now, I'm just waiting for someone to post a wise-***
            remark, something which occurs regularly. Yes, I am pissed and have
            every right to be. $110.00 for what, for them to dangle us and
            arbitrarily advance some and make others wait. I imagine the Vermont
            office to be staffed by 5 people. One security office at the door, and
            four paper pushers. And another thing, this is just another form of Big
            Brother and big repuke-lican government doing what it does best,
            justifying someone a salary who is probably over-worked and under-
            supported. These systems get put into place, then are left to fend for
            themselves while people wait to live their lives. My Italian grandfather
            came through Ellis Island in 1906 and went through the system
            splendidly. It turns my stomach to think how any American system
            participating in this program now is treated without much dignity. I
            vote, pay taxes and work my *** off to eek out a living in a country
            whose money is losing value daily and we are expected to line up and
            take it. I will smile, rejoice and feel elation when this procedure
            comes to an end. Until then, I feel contempt, frustration and dis-trust
            until a lousy from is processed. The internet opened up all this traffic
            amongst many of us and it is barely used in the process. No
            particiaption is allowed in the process excpet by snail mail to send the
            payment and the forms. Have I complained enough? Not until it's over. My
            future bride is making ready to come across the Atlantic and we can't
            even discuss any plans, dates or any other details because we have to
            wait. Just try to hold up payment on something for any government and
            see how quickly they pounce on you. Ranting and raving am I? Yes, he
            said.


            Aww I am so sorry to hear that, It is very hard to
            be apart from the one you love.. but remember..A bumpy road leads to the
            stars. I wish you nothing but the best!!
            Fingers and toes crossed for
            you
            Take care!!


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            • #21
              feel no hope Vermont, wake up!

              jeffreyhy wrote:
              Matt, Yes, you have been trying to educate people on the folly of the processing time estimates for ages, and I am dismayed that so few seem to learn from your posts. I'm just trying to give you some support on the issue.
              Processing time estimates are fine as long as they are realistic and there is a procedure in place to do something once the time has expired.

              A good example would be at work last week a guy e-mailed us to say he requested to refuse Medicare Part B. The procedural processing time is 60 days.
              This guy sent the Medicare card back the end of October of last year, but it hadn't been processed and premiums where still being deducted from his
              benefits. I called the Payment Center MOD manager and within two days his Part B had been terminated, a new Medicare card had been issued and his excess
              Medicare premiums were refunded.

              I think the CIS just says it will be done when we get it done. There is no follow up or procedure to get cases out the door that are growing cobwebs.

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