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    There are 22 messages in this issue.

    Topics in this digest:

    1. Re: Birth Mother's Lament
    From: "MARY LINDSEY" <[email protected]>
    2. 1949/12/17 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    From: [email protected]
    3. Re: Some Advice
    From: "paron" <[email protected]>
    4. Need help finding a married last name
    From: shelly <[email protected]>
    5. Re: bmom's lament
    From: [email protected]
    6. FOUND MY BIRTHFATHER!
    From: "lisanevius" <[email protected]>
    7. Leicester, asheville nc
    From: [email protected]
    8. Fwd: Our adoption groups might help you:
    From: [email protected]
    9. Re: FOUND MY BIRTHFATHER!
    From: "JDMIZELL1" <[email protected]>
    10. question
    From: "kdlewis12000" <[email protected]>
    11. RE: 1905/01/01 Usa OH Toledo M ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    From: "joan" <[email protected]>
    12. RE: Birth Mother's Lament
    From: "joan" <[email protected]>
    13. Re: Fwd: Our adoption groups might help you:
    From: "paron" <[email protected]>
    14. 1977/04/13 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    From: [email protected]
    15. Re: Some Advice
    From: "Michelle Roy-Davila" <[email protected]>
    16. Re: New Members
    From: "Susan Easley" <[email protected]>
    17. Re: Leicester, asheville nc
    From: "glena allen" <[email protected]>
    18. Re: Birth Mother's Lament
    From: "Susan Easley" <[email protected]>
    19. I can help
    From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]>
    20. Re: Need help finding a married last name
    From: steve burke <[email protected]>
    21. Re: Need help finding a married last name
    From: "JDMIZELL1" <[email protected]>
    22. Hi I'm Back, mail please
    From: "Bryan and Laura Voight" <[email protected]>


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    Message: 1
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:23:29 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
    From: "MARY LINDSEY" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Birth Mother's Lament


    That was beautiful. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I have no

    idea
    where I got the strength to do what I did but of course I was not
    going to
    be allowed to see my child. Well - I refused to sign the papers
    allowing
    him to be removed from the hospital until I got to hold him. They let

    me
    have him for a little while. It was hard enough to let him go - but I

    was
    in a room with around four other young mothers. Two of them were
    keeping
    their babies and they had them in the room with them. It was the
    cruelest
    experience imaginable.

    Also - depending on our ages - most of us birthmoms did not even know
    there
    was such a thing as searching until somehow we got a computer and just
    somehow found out about it. Once we learned that it was a possibility

    - boy
    did we get busy looking.

    Just my thoughts.

    Mary L.
    bm iso son born 4/28/1970
    -------Original Message-------

    From: [email protected]
    Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 03:51:23 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Birth Mother's Lament

    I have heard so much from the posts on this site and others that
    pertain to the terribly emotional experience of the birth mother.

    Some of us saw our baby and even held that precious child before we
    relinquished our claim to another mother. Some of us were not
    allowed to see the child or, in some cases, even to be told whether
    the baby was a little girl or a little boy.

    Some of us went through such shame and heartbreak, just to be able
    bear that child and not have our baby ripped from our body. Abortion
    was not an option for us. For whatever reason, we did not kill our
    children.

    The trauma never leaves us. I can remember the moment I went into
    labor and the thrill of excitement and the horror of knowing I would
    not know my child. I have read on one list of one mother who was
    blindfolded to keep her from seeing the baby at all.

    How barbaric this society has been, both to the mothers and to the
    children who were taken from them!

    So, it comes as no surprise to me when I read of the traumatic loss
    of memory. What day was she born? What hour was he born? We locked
    away the memories for so long that we have great difficulty bringing
    them forth now and holding them up top the light. And, often, when
    we do, we're told that we have no right to have those memories.

    But, those memories are there because we loved that child, then and
    now, and are still aching to put arms around a precious soul.

    Please, adoptees, understand that what I have written here is the
    rule, not the exception. Most of you looking are looking for someone
    who is likely looking or wishing for contact with you. Do not
    hesitate to try to find your birth family. They are an extension of
    who you are. And, in most cases, you will complete them, too. Give
    them time, but come forth.

    Sharon Sanders
    bmom iso of bdaughter
    born July, 1968
    Houston, Texas
    St. Luke's /Texas Children's Hopsital
    Dr. Hoovestahl
    Depelchin




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    Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:19:43 EST
    From: [email protected]
    Subject: 1949/12/17 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry

    1949/12/17 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    Ohio Reunion Registry - http://www.ohioadoptee.com

    ChildLast =
    ChildFirst = Sandra Rose
    BirthMomLast =
    BirthMomFirst = Jean
    County = Montgomery
    BirthDate = 12/17/49
    BirthCertNum = XXX-XX-XXXXXX
    FileNum = female
    Type = A Friend Of The Birth Parent
    email = OH1068668146345
    City = Dayton
    State = OH-Ohio
    Nation = Usa
    *adopteePublic = no
    ID = OH1068668146345


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    Message: 3
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:24:45 -0800
    From: "paron" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Some Advice


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:41 AM
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Some Advice


    Hi Everyone,
    Here is some advice before you do decide to hire a CI or a Paid
    Searcher.




    If you are considering hiring a paid searcher or a CI, first:

    1. Find out if your state has a Confidential Intermediary System

    2. If you do hire a searcher, make certain that the person you hire
    is a no-find/no-fee searcher. Get something in writing. Also, ask
    the company if they can obtain original birth certificates/or have
    access to a birth index and provide you with BC numbers...you don't
    need
    to know their "sources" but if the company states they have no access
    to
    OBC's or a birth index for the state you are searching in, than they
    are not the company you want to hire.

    3. Check paid searcher references very carefully. Contact the
    Better Business Bureau in the area the paid searcher comes from and
    ask
    the BBB how many complaints are registered against that
    person/business.

    4. If you are unsure of how to check references, email
    [email protected] and the owner/moderators,
    will check the paid searcher and get back to you.

    5. Never go with a pay first, find second company. The individual
    paid searcher might need to have his/her expenses met, but never give
    the entire fee up front. If a searcher asks for that, run away.




    Hope this Helps Some.


    Hugs Owner
    Bernice






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    Message: 4
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:36:14 -0800 (PST)
    From: shelly <[email protected]>
    Subject: Need help finding a married last name

    HI! I am looking for the married name for my birth mom (hopefully

    ). Her possible maiden name is Sandra King DOB 4-30-60 She has a
    twin
    brother named Ricky if that helps. I have looked everywhere that I
    know of for both her and her brother. Last state of residence would
    be
    Ohio (I do have an old old address). If you can help or need more
    info
    (I don't have much more) just let me know! Thanks so much for
    helping!
    Michelle


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    Message: 5
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:05:12 EST
    From: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: bmom's lament

    Sharon and Anne,

    Both are beautiful letters...I've had recent with a young adoptee that

    responded to one of my posts with hopes I might be the right
    bmom...sadly not, but a
    great new triad friend...we talk about each lives, fears, similarities

    and
    you know the similarities are remarkable...I pray lawmakers read our
    posts...

    susan
    September 1967
    Winter Park, Florida


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    Message: 6
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:35:25 -0000
    From: "lisanevius" <[email protected]>
    Subject: FOUND MY BIRTHFATHER!

    PLEASE FORWARD WITH MY PERMISSION_!


    I have found and been in touch with my Birthfather!WOW! Now my only
    problem is that I still can't find my Birthmother. I would appreciate
    any and all help please. Her name is Catherine (Kathryn)?? Marie
    Joyce. D.O.B. 02-09-1927,Scranton,Pennsylvania. I know she has a
    brother-Joseph Joyce. She worked as a clerical receptionist and she
    was in Washington,D.C. at least for awhile in 1953-1954. I was born
    04/30/1954 @12:55AM in Garfield Hospital Wash.,D.C. My birthfather
    hasn't seen or heard from her since 1-2 weeks after my birth. He was
    very receptive of me when we spoke on the phone but I'm really not
    trying to call him again so soon to see if he remembers anything else
    about her. So, if anybody can help me find her please let me know.
    Thank you, Lisa




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    Message: 7
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:06:07 EST
    From: [email protected]
    Subject: Leicester, asheville nc

    Hi list sibs,
    Is there anyone around, that is willing to do a yearbook look up for
    me
    in
    one of these cities? If so can you email me privately?
    thanks,
    Lynn
    searching for hubby's birth family
    Asheville, NC
    4/8/1957


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    Message: 8
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:16:32 EST
    From: [email protected]
    Subject: Fwd: Our adoption groups might help you:

    I RECIEVED THIS TODAY AND ASKED BERNICE ABOUT IT. PLEASE BE AWARE
    THAT
    WE
    ARE NOT WITH THESE SO CALLED PEOPLE. DO NOT TRUST THEM. THANK YOU
    IN ADVANCE
    VIKKI AKA TAMARA


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    Message: 9
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:49:55 -0500
    From: "JDMIZELL1" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: FOUND MY BIRTHFATHER!

    did you find out anything about the brother from the obituaries for
    joseph joyce


    diana
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: lisanevius
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:35 PM
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] FOUND MY BIRTHFATHER!


    PLEASE FORWARD WITH MY PERMISSION_!


    I have found and been in touch with my Birthfather!WOW! Now my only
    problem is that I still can't find my Birthmother. I would
    appreciate
    any and all help please. Her name is Catherine (Kathryn)?? Marie
    Joyce. D.O.B. 02-09-1927,Scranton,Pennsylvania. I know she has a
    brother-Joseph Joyce. She worked as a clerical receptionist and she
    was in Washington,D.C. at least for awhile in 1953-1954. I was born
    04/30/1954 @12:55AM in Garfield Hospital Wash.,D.C. My birthfather
    hasn't seen or heard from her since 1-2 weeks after my birth. He was

    very receptive of me when we spoke on the phone but I'm really not
    trying to call him again so soon to see if he remembers anything
    else
    about her. So, if anybody can help me find her please let me know.
    Thank you, Lisa



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    Message: 10
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:37:04 -0000
    From: "kdlewis12000" <[email protected]>
    Subject: question

    Hello! I was wondering....I was born in Washington, D.C. and
    adopted in PA. I have been doing most of my searching in D.C. with
    no luck. My a-mom "felt" that I was born in PA, so I have been
    doing most of my searching there. I have sent off for my records
    with Catholic Charities and have not heard from them yet. Today I
    found my Baptismal record. On this it states that I was baptised @
    St. Ann's Infant Home in Hyattsville, Maryland. I was born 09-18-69
    and baptised on 09-22-1969. I feel like this was falisifed, due to
    my a-mom feeling that my birth certificate was falisifed and that
    she states that I was given to my a-parents 2 months after I was
    born. So my question is do I contact this home and try to get info?
    Thanxs! kat




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    Message: 11
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:55:30 -0700
    From: "joan" <[email protected]>
    Subject: RE: 1905/01/01 Usa OH Toledo M ...Ohio Reunion Registry

    Try and take the birth cert.# off the internet . Its not safe to put
    that
    on there. Joan :-)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:15 PM
    To: [email protected]; [email protected];
    [email protected]; [email protected];
    [email protected]; [email protected];
    [email protected]
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] 1905/01/01 Usa OH Toledo M ...Ohio
    Reunion
    Registry

    1905/01/01 Usa OH Toledo M ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    Ohio Reunion Registry - http://www.ohioadoptee.com

    ChildLast =
    ChildFirst = Michael Ambrose
    BirthMomLast =
    BirthMomFirst = Momfirst
    County = Lucas
    BirthDate = 1/1/05
    BirthCertNum = A 8929
    FileNum = male
    Type = A Spouse Of An Adoptee
    email = OH1068584082560
    City = Toledo
    State = OH-Ohio
    Nation = Usa
    *adopteePublic = no
    ID = OH1068584082560



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    Message: 12
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:05:36 -0700
    From: "joan" <[email protected]>
    Subject: RE: Birth Mother's Lament


    Hi, I was trying to get people to ban together and take an ad out in
    the
    newspaper. If you know of a few people, that are willing to chip in.
    Then take a 1/8 page ad, and say,:
    ATTN: birthparents and adoptees
    The following are searching for their loved ones.
    B/m iso xx/xx/xx Austin,tx. Email: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Ad. Xx/xx/xx Austin,tx. Email: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>

    The people can establish an email just for this ad. Then they can use
    initials, or whatever. And see if they get responses.
    Also, at the bottom of the ad, maybe put, that all adoptees and
    birthparents
    should sign up with the state registry. (put the phone number of the
    Tx.
    State registry.

    Anyone else, reading this, can do this in their respective state. I
    only
    used Tx. As an example. The addr.above, were all examples, and not
    real
    people.
    If enough of us do this, then maybe others will start talking, and
    give
    the
    state registry’s the attention they deserve.
    Sincerely,
    Joan

    -----Original Message-----
    From: MARY LINDSEY [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:23 PM
    To: [email protected]com
    Subject: Re: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Birth Mother's Lament


    That was beautiful. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I have no

    idea
    where I got the strength to do what I did but of course I was not
    going to
    be allowed to see my child. Well - I refused to sign the papers
    allowing
    him to be removed from the hospital until I got to hold him. They let

    me
    have him for a little while. It was hard enough to let him go - but I

    was
    in a room with around four other young mothers. Two of them were
    keeping
    their babies and they had them in the room with them. It was the
    cruelest
    experience imaginable.

    Also - depending on our ages - most of us birthmoms did not even know
    there
    was such a thing as searching until somehow we got a computer and just
    somehow found out about it. Once we learned that it was a possibility

    - boy
    did we get busy looking.

    Just my thoughts.

    Mary L.
    bm iso son born 4/28/1970
    -------Original Message-------

    From: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 03:51:23 PM
    To: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Birth Mother's Lament

    I have heard so much from the posts on this site and others that
    pertain to the terribly emotional experience of the birth mother.

    Some of us saw our baby and even held that precious child before we
    relinquished our claim to another mother. Some of us were not
    allowed to see the child or, in some cases, even to be told whether
    the baby was a little girl or a little boy.

    Some of us went through such shame and heartbreak, just to be able
    bear that child and not have our baby ripped from our body. Abortion
    was not an option for us. For whatever reason, we did not kill our
    children.

    The trauma never leaves us. I can remember the moment I went into
    labor and the thill of excitement and the horror of knowing I would
    not know my child. I have read on one list of one mother who was
    blindfolded to keep her from seeing the baby at all.

    How barbaric this society has been, both to the mothers and to the
    children who were taken from them!

    So, it comes as no surprise to me when I read of the traumatic loss
    of memory. What day was she born? What hour was he born? We locked
    away the memories for so long that we have great difficulty bringing
    them forth now and holding them up top the light. And, often, when
    we do, we're told that we have no right to have those memories.

    But, those memories are there because we loved that child, then and
    now, and are still aching to put arms around a precious soul.

    Please, adoptees, understand that what I have written here is the
    rule, not the exception. Most of you looking are looking for someone
    who is likely looking or wishing for contact with you. Do not
    hesitate to try to find your birth family. They are an extension of
    who you are. And, in most cases, you will complete them, too. Give
    them time, but come forth.

    Sharon Sanders
    bmom iso of bdaughter
    born July, 1968
    Houston, Texas
    St. Luke's /Texas Children's Hopsital
    Dr. Hoovestahl
    Depelchin





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    Message: 13
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:21:34 -0800
    From: "paron" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Our adoption groups might help you:

    I had no idea there were so many (--money grabbing) people/groups in
    this world. Looks like they prey on vulnerable people.

    Maybe we can make a list of who to avoid!
    Lady Patricia
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:16 PM
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Fwd: Our adoption groups might help
    you:


    I RECIEVED THIS TODAY AND ASKED BERNICE ABOUT IT. PLEASE BE AWARE
    THAT WE ARE NOT WITH THESE SO CALLED PEOPLE. DO NOT TRUST THEM.
    THANK
    YOU IN ADVANCE
    VIKKI AKA TAMARA
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    Message: 14
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:20:11 EST
    From: [email protected]
    Subject: 1977/04/13 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry

    1977/04/13 Usa OH Dayton F ...Ohio Reunion Registry
    Ohio Reunion Registry - http://www.ohioadoptee.com

    ChildLast =
    ChildFirst = Kathryn Varga
    BirthMomLast =
    BirthMomFirst = Momfirst
    County = Montgomery
    BirthDate = 4/13/77
    BirthCertNum = 134-77-659206
    FileNum = female
    Type = An Adoptee (AD)
    email = OH1068711158830
    City = Dayton
    State = OH-Ohio
    Nation = Usa
    *adopteePublic = No
    ID = OH1068711158830


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    Message: 15
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:19:30 -0800
    From: "Michelle Roy-Davila" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Some Advice

    Bernice,

    I'm not sure what is going on...but, I have had my mail set to no mail

    for some time now...last week I started receiving Individual
    Emails....I signed in to the Group and switched my mail preference
    back to no
    mail....although I am am still receiving Individual emails. Can you
    please
    enlighten me?

    TY

    Michelle in CA
    [email protected]

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:41 AM
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Some Advice


    Hi Everyone,
    Here is some advice before you do decide to hire a CI or a Paid
    Searcher.




    If you are considering hiring a paid searcher or a CI, first:

    1. Find out if your state has a Confidential Intermediary System

    2. If you do hire a searcher, make certain that the person you hire
    is a no-find/no-fee searcher. Get something in writing. Also, ask
    the company if they can obtain original birth certificates/or have
    access to a birth index and provide you with BC numbers...you don't
    need
    to know their "sources" but if the company states they have no access
    to
    OBC's or a birth index for the state you are searching in, than they
    are not the company you want to hire.

    3. Check paid searcher references very carefully. Contact the
    Better Business Bureau in the area the paid searcher comes from and
    ask
    the BBB how many complaints are registered against that
    person/business.

    4. If you are unsure of how to check references, email
    [email protected] and the owner/moderators,
    will check the paid searcher and get back to you.

    5. Never go with a pay first, find second company. The individual
    paid searcher might need to have his/her expenses met, but never give
    the entire fee up front. If a searcher asks for that, run away.




    Hope this Helps Some.


    Hugs Owner
    Bernice






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    Message: 16
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:22:11 -0500
    From: "Susan Easley" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: New Members


    I can tell you as a birth mother that I can not wait until the day
    that
    I see my birth daughter again. Not a day goes by that I do not think
    of her and I just bet your birth mother feels the same way. Good luck

    in you search..one day hope that it will not be so hard for birth
    parents and their children to connect again.
    I always remember the tiny baby that I only got to hold for a few
    minutes and I can not wait to see the young woman she has grown to be.
    I
    think every birth child has the right to know where they came
    from..who
    they look like..they need to make that connection.
    God Bless,
    Susan


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: kdlewis
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 PM
    Subject: Re: [AngelsLostInAdoption] New Members



    Thanxs for the words of encouragement! I very scared and it is nice

    to know that there are some birthmoms out there that want to see their

    children. I see so much on the net over the past few months good and

    bad and I am scared and worried but I have to know!

    Thanxs again!
    Kat



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: bren622003
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:47 AM
    Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] New Members


    I would just like to say hi to all of our new members, and yes
    Kat(hy)
    you are doing it right!
    As a birth mom searching it truly makes my heart sing to hear that

    you
    folks have had wonderful lives! I'm sure it is what we all have
    hoped
    for when trusting another heart to love our babies, it certainly
    was
    for me. Good luck in your searches, I'm in Canada so for the most
    part
    I'm not much help for those searching elsewhere. However I always
    keep
    my eyes open when searching other data bases, and my heart is
    always
    open to listen.

    May we all be blessed along our journey, and find sunshine at the
    end
    of our rainbows.

    Be well all,

    Brenda J in Canada






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    Message: 17
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:34:27 +0000
    From: "glena allen" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Leicester, asheville nc

    I am in Texas - would love to but if you have anything in west Tx I
    will.

    Glena

    From: [email protected]Reply-To: [email protected]To: [email protected], [email protected],[email protected], [email protected],[email protected],sea [email protected], [email protected],[email protected], [email protected]Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Leicester, asheville ncDate: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:06:07 ESTHi list sibs,Is there anyone around, that is willing to do a yearbook look up for
    me in
    one of these cities? If so can you email me privately?thanks,Lynnsearching for hubby's birth familyAsheville, NC4/8/1957
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    Message: 18
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:51:30 -0500
    From: "Susan Easley" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Birth Mother's Lament

    My heart goes out to you...maybe with some time your birth mother will

    change her mind. I know that I search daily for my daughter and I am
    very open with anyone about the fact that I have 3 daughters...not
    two.
    I have been searching for quite a while. I am so happy that you do
    know your brother. Enjoy each other and do not lose the faith. She
    may
    change her mind.
    God bless you,
    Susan


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: hill3me
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:20 PM
    Subject: Re: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Birth Mother's Lament


    What a beautiful letter. I can only imagine the heartache and the
    pain that is both physical and emotional. I am an adoptee with a
    question
    for all birthmothers. Catholic Charities found my birthmother in less
    than one month. She received a letter close to Mothers Day 2001,
    indicating that I was looking for her. A few weeks later she wrote
    back and
    said "this is an invasion of privacy and this matter is closed
    permanently."
    The good news is after that Catholic Charities found my half brother

    Dec'01 and we were
    reunited in April '02. What do I do now regarding her reaction. This

    was two years ago. I know she has two sons which would be my half
    brothers. Do I wait for her to change her mind? Do I continue looking
    for
    her? Any advice from the birthmothers out there would be greatly
    appreciated.
    Thank you all and God Bless!

    Sharon Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
    I have heard so much from the posts on this site and others that
    pertain to the terribly emotional experience of the birth mother.

    Some of us saw our baby and even held that precious child before
    we
    relinquished our claim to another mother. Some of us were not
    allowed to see the child or, in some cases, even to be told
    whether
    the baby was a little girl or a little boy.

    Some of us went through such shame and heartbreak, just to be able

    bear that child and not have our baby ripped from our body.
    Abortion
    was not an option for us. For whatever reason, we did not kill
    our
    children.

    The trauma never leaves us. I can remember the moment I went into

    labor and the thrill of excitement and the horror of knowing I
    would
    not know my child. I have read on one list of one mother who was
    blindfolded to keep her from seeing the baby at all.

    How barbaric this society has been, both to the mothers and to the

    children who were taken from them!

    So, it comes as no surprise to me when I read of the traumatic
    loss
    of memory. What day was she born? What hour was he born? We
    locked
    away the memories for so long that we have great difficulty
    bringing
    them forth now and holding them up top the light. And, often,
    when
    we do, we're told that we have no right to have those memories.

    But, those memories are there because we loved that child, then
    and
    now, and are still aching to put arms around a precious soul.

    Please, adoptees, understand that what I have written here is the
    rule, not the exception. Most of you looking are looking for
    someone
    who is likely looking or wishing for contact with you. Do not
    hesitate to try to find your birth family. They are an extension
    of
    who you are. And, in most cases, you will complete them, too.
    Give
    them time, but come forth.

    Sharon Sanders
    bmom iso of bdaughter
    born July, 1968
    Houston, Texas
    St. Luke's /Texas Children's Hopsital
    Dr. Hoovestahl
    Depelchin





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    Message: 19
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:56:55 -0000
    From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]>
    Subject: I can help

    I can help any who has a state, and name for the next copule hours e-
    mail me at [email protected] or yahoo messenger at
    jenbob0308 and tell me i have a 24 hour membership until 8 tomorrow!




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    Message: 20
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:47:26 -0800 (PST)
    From: steve burke <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Need help finding a married last name

    Just a thinking this may help you too.I recently told someone else and

    it did if you know last address you can do a DMV search they cant stop

    you from that.Also have you tried looking up county records for
    marraige Lic? Or local newspaper in the Library in her old town for
    wedding
    notices? Even if you live else where you can request through your own
    Library copies of micro films for a small fee,Good Luck Steve

    shelly <ruggmcf[email protected]> wrote:HI! I am looking for the married
    name for my birth mom (hopefully ). Her possible maiden name is
    Sandra King DOB 4-30-60 She has a twin brother named Ricky if that
    helps.
    I have looked everywhere that I know of for both her and her brother.

    Last state of residence would be Ohio (I do have an old old address).

    If you can help or need more info (I don't have much more) just let me

    know! Thanks so much for helping!
    Michelle


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    Message: 21
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:05:58 -0500
    From: "JDMIZELL1" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Need help finding a married last name

    Michelle,

    I did a dmv search for women named sandra with the same birthday in
    ohio. Please contact me privately and I will give you the information

    Diana
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    From: steve burke
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM
    Subject: Re: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Need help finding a married last

    name


    Just a thinking this may help you too.I recently told someone else
    and it did if you know last address you can do a DMV search they cant
    stop you from that.Also have you tried looking up county records for
    marraige Lic? Or local newspaper in the Library in her old town for
    wedding
    notices? Even if you live else where you can request through your own
    Library copies of micro films for a small fee,Good Luck Steve

    shelly <[email protected]> wrote:
    HI! I am looking for the married name for my birth mom (hopefully

    ). Her possible maiden name is Sandra King DOB 4-30-60 She has a
    twin brother named Ricky if that helps. I have looked everywhere that

    I know of for both her and her brother. Last state of residence would

    be Ohio (I do have an old old address). If you can help or need more

    info (I don't have much more) just let me know! Thanks so much for
    helping!
    Michelle


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    Message: 22
    Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:08:00 -0800
    From: "Bryan and Laura Voight" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Hi I'm Back, mail please

    Can someone please set me back to mail?
    Thanks
    Laura

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