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    Can a employer change your pay scale from hourly to a flat rate scale without your consent ??

    I am a mechanic who was hired as a hourly employee I work on heavy trucks etc. our new manager is planning to turn our shop into a flat rate shop .

    I will refuse to work as a flat rate mechanic as this job I have cannot be set up for a flat rate . most of the vehicles I work on are highly modified from original condition with various attachments hydralic systems etc. that have no labor operation book guidlines for the people who decide how many hours they think is fair to pay me .
    I'm not comfortable in letting anyone decide what I should be payed for performing a repair .


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    He can pay on a going forward basis, on any pay rate that he may wish. As you have indicated you also may leave the employment anf get the pay you think you deserve.
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    • #3
      what exactly is "going forward basis" I guess I don't know what that means LOL!!

      Flat rate under this condition means I will work an 8 hour day and they will decide how many hours they will pay me . How can this be done without my consent ?
      also what guidlines are they required to use to determine how many hours they have to pay me ?
      Am I at total mercy ? where they can pay me whatever they want ?

      If I work 8 hours I expect 8 hours . not 2 or 3 of this flat rate crap they just pull out of the sky or off the top of their head .

      Example { a brake job for a ford escort car might pay 2 hours , book time }
      {a brake job on a ford F-650 heavy truck will take more than 8 hours depending on what rear axle this truck was built with }

      under this flat rate system is it fair and legal for them to pay me for a 2 hour brake job ???

      I have had this happen already as I saw it on my time stamp punches . this brings my efficiancy way down and my performance numbers look terrible .

      I guess if this flat rate system goes through I will have to just go on welfare because you cannot perform tasks on big trucks as fast as you can on a small car

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      • #4
        Absent a contract, employment in the U.S. legally tends to be "at will". This means that either party can terminate employment at will. It also means that employers are generally allowed to change the conditions of employment on a "go forward" basis. If the employee does not want to work under the changed conditions, then legally the employee has the option to leave. [I am just reporting the law - not creating it]. Most states have a rule that changes in working conditions must be on a "go forward" basis to be legal. A few states have some sort of formal notification requirement, but most states just require that notification of some sort be given. A few states do not care much one way or the other.

        Past that, flat rate, or flag rate or piece rate is pretty common with automotive repair. No idea about big trucks, most of the questions on this board in this general area are from automotive mechanics but we get a lot of questions about flat rates and mechanics. I can say that the employer must pay at least minimum wage. If your employer is not legally what the government considers to be an Automotive Dealer, then overtime must also be paid.
        "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away".
        Philip K. **** (1928-1982)

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        • #5
          Going forward is that you have been warned. Keep in mind the employer owns the business. He can do almost anything, that is not illegal.
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          "A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'" (Author unknown)

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          • #6
            Thanks for the replies

            It is very sad , that after being a successfull mechanic for over 26 years and investing $20,000 or more in my tools and keeping up on all my training , certifications etc. that I have to be put in a position that will ultimately cause me to cease working in this business .
            I know I can be replaced , and some poor kid out of tech school will fumble his way through for years to get where I am now .

            I guess it's time for a change {a big one } there is obviously no respect involved in being a good employee and qualified technician in this day and age .
            LOL !!! {I wanted to be a lawyer when I was a kid , but we were very poor and I couldn't quite afford the schooling } I'm 46 years old now and still poor LOL!!!

            Thanks again .... Mike

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