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    i work in a retail store in texas and one day this past week our drawer was 20 dollars short and there were four of us that had used that computer for checking people out for that day. our manager was counting the drawer to check it and discovered it 20 short she turned to us and said it was short and we were all gonna split it so we all had to put 5 dollars in. later that night when i was off work and on the phone with a friend of mine he asked me about my day and i told him what happened and he said that it was illegal for managers to ask you to put money in the drawer from your own pocket. is this true? and if it is how do i handle the situation if it ever happens again?

  • #2
    Yes, that is prohibited. You and your co-workers can contact Texas' Workforce Commission to file a complaint.

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    • #3
      a semantic difference, if you will

      Beth, I have to disagree with your assessment of the prohibition of the act here.

      If the employer asks/insists/demands that an employee pay for part of a shortage, and the employee agrees, that is not a violation of the law.

      If an employer deducts from pay to cover a shortage, without specific written authorization, there is a violation of the Texas Payday Law.

      The net effect to the employee (lost $) is the same, but the vehicle for the former is designed to keep the employer within the letter of the law. Score for the employer!

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      • #4
        I'm not an expert on the Texas Payday Law and I do agree making unauthorized payroll deductions is a different matter but I still think it's worth a call to the Workforce Commission to discuss the issue further.

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        • #5
          Here is the statute (see specifically subsection 018.
          http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/la.toc.htm

          The employee must specfically agree to the deduction.

          There is nothing "illegal" about the employees "chipping in" out of their own pockets to make up the difference. I'm not sure I'd do it personally, but for $5 to not rock the boat, maybe.
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          • #6
            draw is short, must the cashier pay it back

            If the draw is short, does the cashier have to pay it back. If more then one person was in it too. I work for a resturant, (Denny's) that make the cashier pay back lost money from the draw. And they have a note posted "that all waitress must pay for walkouts." The note was hand written a few weeks ago. Can they do this?

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            • #7
              Read the responses earlier in this thread.
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              • #8
                Credit card was declined

                Originally posted by Pattymd View Post
                Here is the statute (see specifically subsection 018.
                http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/la.toc.htm

                The employee must specfically agree to the deduction.

                There is nothing "illegal" about the employees "chipping in" out of their own pockets to make up the difference. I'm not sure I'd do it personally, but for $5 to not rock the boat, maybe.
                This link no longer works. Where can I find this law?

                My step-son works for a fast food restruant and got in a hurry and missed a declined credit card transaction. They withheld $22 from his paycheck.


                -dwfunk

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                • #9
                  Follow the new link

                  You can follow the link to the new website. It's in the 3rd line of the link that PattyMD posted.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Texas709 View Post
                    You can follow the link to the new website. It's in the 3rd line of the link that PattyMD posted.
                    ok, excuse me, but, WHICH third line:



                    Texas Legislature Online

                    The Texas Legislature Online website has recently been updated.

                    If you have reached this page, the content you are seeking has been moved.

                    All information that was available on the prior web site is still available on the new site, located at http://www.legis.state.tx.us.

                    Specific examples of content available include the following:

                    * To browse and search statutes, go to http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/statutes.html (previously located at www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/statutes.html). In general, if you have bookmarked a link to a statute-related page, you only need to change www.capitol.state.tx.us to tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us. For example, the page "SECTION 21.001. INHERENT POWER AND DUTY OF COURTS" previously located at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statu....htm#21.001.00 is now located at http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes....htm#21.001.00.

                    * To view house journals, go to http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/hjrnl/home.htm (previously located at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/hjrnl/home.htm).

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                    * To look up detailed information for a specific bill, go to http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillNumber.aspx (previously located at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/l...ll_status.htm).

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                    There are a bunch of "subsection 018's". If I know the statute in question, I wouldn't need the link and wouldn't need to ask for a corrected link.

                    Some help this fourm is turning out to be . . . .




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                    Last edited by dwfunk; 10-15-2006, 03:12 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Well, the link was good 11 months ago when I posted it. What do you expect?

                      Right here. Chapter 61, paragraph 018. Happy now?
                      http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/la.toc.htm
                      Last edited by Pattymd; 10-16-2006, 03:40 AM.
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