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    I have a long standing personality conflict with my immediate boss. Following a dispute recently, I asked to speak with her immediate supervisor, our overall boss, who agreed to come and meet with me. She was prepared to do so, and was on her way to meet with me, when my boss showed up in her stead, saying that the 3 of us would have a meeting next week. Do I not have a right to meet with my boss's boss? I cannot speak in front of my immediate boss without fear of retaliation.
    Last edited by janedoe789; 03-19-2010, 11:43 PM. Reason: clarification.

  • #2
    You have posted nothing to suggest that any illegal retaliation took place.
    The above answer, whatever it is, assumes that no legally binding and enforceable contract or CBA says otherwise. If it does, then the terms of the contract or CBA apply.

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    • #3
      You haven't had the meeting yet but from what you posted there has been no retaliation. (nothing illegal done)
      Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. Leo Buscaglia

      Live in peace with animals. Animals bring love to our hearts and warmth to our souls.

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      • #4
        edit noted. It will be up to your "overall boss" as to whether she will meet with you alone.
        Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. Leo Buscaglia

        Live in peace with animals. Animals bring love to our hearts and warmth to our souls.

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        • #5
          This is the second time this has happened. On two occasions I have spoken directly to her bosses (two different people), arranging a one-on-one meeting, only to have my boss turn up instead or with them.

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          • #6
            What do her bosses say when you ask to speak to just them alone - do you ask if it can be w/o your immediate supervisor? It seems they are letting her come.
            Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. Leo Buscaglia

            Live in peace with animals. Animals bring love to our hearts and warmth to our souls.

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            • #7
              There is no law that requires your boss's boss to meet with you. Your demand to speak to this person is apparently an attempt to go over your boss's head, not a good idea in any circumstances. The boss's boss apparent agreement to meet with you and then sending your boss to tell you it isn't going to happen is most likely an attempt to get you to understand that it is your boss that you work for. If you refuse to understand that message, expect to be terminated.

              You may think this person is sympathetic to your cause, but that is unlikely. If that were true, the meeting would have taken place. Very few members of management look favorably on an employee who thinks it is his or her right to challenge the chain of command. And very few have the time or interest in dealing with problem employees a level or two down in the organization. They employ your boss to deal with those issues. If that is not acceptable to you, you would be well advised to seek other employment.
              Last edited by Scott67; 03-20-2010, 12:22 AM.
              Please post questions on the forum rather than sending me a private message or email. That way others who have similar issues have access to the discussion.

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              • #8
                Scott said it well. That's about the way it is. Sorry.

                You said you have been having a long standing personality conflict with your immediate boss. Sometimes in a situation like that looking for other employment is your best bet.
                Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. Leo Buscaglia

                Live in peace with animals. Animals bring love to our hearts and warmth to our souls.

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                • #9
                  There are three sides to every story...yours...hers...and the truth (not implying anyone is intentionally lying) just saying that without the other two sides of a story person a and person b's then there is no way to make a conclusion that is accurate.

                  Chances are your overall boss is going to speak to the immediate supervisor, so this way your at least able to confront this person.

                  A rule of thumb I try to live by is, if I'll say it when you're not around, you better believe I'll say it when you are around!
                  Not everything in America is actionable in a court of law. Please remember that attorneys are in business for profit, and they get paid regardless of whether or not you win or lose.

                  I offer my knowledge and experience at no charge, I admit that I am NOT infallible, I am wrong sometimes, hopefully another responder will correct me if that is the case with the answer above, regardless, it is your responsibility to verify any and all information provided.

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                  • #10
                    You are most likely an "employee at will." That means that they can fire you anytime for practically any reason, or no reason, and you are already giving them a reason to get rid of you by wanting to discuss this situation. An employee at will can be fired for such and have no wrongful termination recourse. In fact, if an employee eats up management's time with personal issues, he or she is just asking to get fired.

                    I hope you are looking for a new job. Good luck.
                    Bob Bollinger, Attorney
                    Board Certified Specialist in NC Workers' Compensation Law
                    Charlotte, NC

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for all the info. In regards to the last comment, I am actually not an "employee at will" I am an SPA ( State Personnel Act ) employee. It's my understanding that there needs to be written warnings and a disciplinary probation period before any dismissal can occur. Is this not correct? I am also curious about another aspect of this case I have not yet mentioned, namely that during the most recent incident that sparked all of this, I was asked to "step into the conference room" and verbally reprimanded and THEN was physically blocked from exiting the room, whereupon I opened the door and now the boss is claiming that I injured her hand. It's my understanding that when she blocked the door, that automatically became false imprisonment, and the law states that it doesn't matter if it was only for a second or an hour, you cannot legally hold someone against their will. Thoughts?

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