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    When I got home after work today, my wife told me that I had received a letter from the UIA. I could not imagine what it had been because, I have been sending in my payments auto-draft for the last several years without fail. Moreover, I noticed that the envelop from them was especially large. However, when I opened it and read the first few lines. "Appeal Request...Hearing Date... I was elated. Even though there is no promise that I would receive any leniency at this hearing, it is just the thought that after 15 years I may have a chance to reduce our largest debt. My hearing date with the Administrative Hearing Judge at the Michigan Unemployment Insurance Agency is on April 9 regarding an overpayment in 1992 for $5,900. (In addition, a penalty of four times the actual amount) totaling $23,600.00. Currently this is our largest debt. If we can have, it reduced even a little it would be a tremendous gift.

    The story of how this all happened is both embarrassing and humiliating. In late 1991 I was laid off as a downsizing/reorganization, I was told that is was temporary and that I would be called back soon but it lasted almost a year. At that time we had a house full of children and only one income. At one point I remember selling blood plasma just to by baby formula. After the initial three month period expired I was automatically enrolled into the federally funded extension program (30 more days). During this time, I started creating my own jobs by doing lawn service, handyman work, anything I could do to earn money. And that is were my troubles began. It was at that time that a friend of ours, who was a independent carpenter told me that whenever you earn anything more than $500 in business, you need to claim it on your 1040. Even though I wasn't officially in business per say I estimated that I'd made roughly around $6000. doing these odds-and-ends things. So, when tax time came around I included that I'd earned an additional $6,000.00 during the year and that I'd been laid off. That triggered the UIA system to investigate me for benefit fraud and in March of 2006 I received a letter telling me that I was being penalized for an "unjustified overpayment".

    I'm not claiming that I'm innocent of the $5900 but, I'm hoping that on April 9th the penalty of (four times the overpayment amount) could be reduced somewhat.
    JW

    Need To Be Debt Free

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    Do you have a question?
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    • #3
      Elle, I think the question must be what does he need to do to avoid paying nearly 24 grand.
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      • #4
        Yes, my question is what can I do to at least encourage the hearing officer to reduce the payments
        JW

        Need To Be Debt Free

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        • #5
          Bring a financial statement?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pattymd View Post
            Bring a financial statement?

            Pay stub, etc?
            JW

            Need To Be Debt Free

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            • #7
              That, too. A list of your income and expenses on a monthly basis.
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                Originally posted by Pattymd View Post
                That, too. A list of your income and expenses on a monthly basis.
                Would it help to bring any other documents?
                JW

                Need To Be Debt Free

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                • #9
                  Anything that backs up your Income/Expenses wouldn't hurt. Mortgage statement, utility bills, etc. Remember, what you're really doing is like asking for a loan. Better to have too much backup than not enough.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pattymd View Post
                    Anything that backs up your Income/Expenses wouldn't hurt. Mortgage statement, utility bills, etc. Remember, what you're really doing is like asking for a loan. Better to have too much backup than not enough.
                    Thank you very much for all of the assistance!! I post the results right here after the hearing.
                    JW

                    Need To Be Debt Free

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