Ward Cleaver
01-17-2004, 04:37 AM
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 05:11:20 GMT,
<c655a8bb1cfca781e6feda7a183102a1@news.teranews.com> Roger <roger@ . > wrote:
In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Ward Cleaver wrote in message <9i5h00tls8p1glrs8qliusph6nrssvevn2@4ax.com>:On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:25:57 -0800, <bu9rt40q54@enews2.newsguy.com> "Ken McVay,OBC" <kmcvay@nospamnizkor.org> wrote:"Sara Salzman"http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations HeDenies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor FundNo, he didn't. Because he didn't receive them.
Not according to his own web site and according to the San Antonio Express!!
From my latest archive cataloging The Nizkor Project of Nanaimo, British
Columbia Canada directed by Kenneth N. McVay:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=f7murv0qqpmcfa2ldce7epo9gtg5am23rl%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT
Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! R_1122
Message-ID: <f7murv0qqpmcfa2ldce7epo9gtg5am23rl@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT
AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
Selected excerpts:
The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
Prologue:
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
My terse reply to Ken McVay's statement above: "You prove your lies are self
evident with your own words you tax dodger con-man liar!"
Ken McVay first denies receiving money from "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund." [documented and archived locally (in case the web pages get
pulled) and all URLs are given by me for verification purposes]
EXHIBIT 1:
<start/quote>
"What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund."
That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury
continue to ignore:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=9334m8%241nm1%241%40news.tht.net&rnum=3
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
EXHIBIT 2: (McVay cited the link above and here are the contents in part)
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)
<start/quote>
"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175.3c2814b6@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com... What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled the money?
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me -
or anyone else, to my knowledge...
The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
maintanence or development.
You can verify their existence by visiting
http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal...
Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
to it.
<end/quote>
Exhibit 3:
<start/quote>
In article <3b80b9d6.53015474@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Ken Lewis <klewis@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[TubbyBlubber excised]
As the sniveling, cowardly Brad**** well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
go directly into an endowment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
will fuel itself.
SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
creation of an endowment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
fund.
It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
always, he doesn't give a rat's *** for the truth.
Duh.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9l2g72%2423od%241@news.tht.net&num=20&hl=en
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bull****
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1@news.tht.net>
Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT3)
Exhibit 4: (Notice the public posting was made! December 30, 2002)
<start/quote>
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" AND you are also
on record as stating: "...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio,
and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it" on June 2, 2000.
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(This is kind of fun. You keep making an *** of yourself, and I'll keep
laughing at you.)
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=xO%25P9.1985%24C43.131501115@news.nnrp.c a&lr=&hl=en
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmcvay@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.131501115@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
End of Kenneth McVay's (Director of The Nizkor Project) own documented words
denying he has ever received any money of benefit from the San Antonio Area
Foundation OR "The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
ON THE OTHER HAND THESE DOCUMENTS PROVE MCVAY TO BE AN OUTRIGHT LIAR!!
Here is what the San Antonio Area Foundation reported for Year 2000:
<start/quote>
http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
[Link active for downloading and for verification November 20, 2003.
(I have already downloaded and archived the PDF in case it becomes
unavailable for some reason.)]
Our mission: Helping donors achieve their charitable goals
Annual Report 2000
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
Page 3
Fund Types
The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the quality
of life in our community through funding that impacts vital nonprofit
organizations so they can help people in time of need.
Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
These funds enable the Area Foundation to respond
flexibly to changing community needs and emergencies.
Decisions on how to most appropriately use these
funds are left to the discretion of the Area Foundation’s
Advisory Committees and Board of Directors. Any size
gift may be given as a discretionary gift.
You’ll find many reasonable options for creating your
own fund in the paragraphs that follow. However,
if you wish to contribute to the work of the Area
Foundation and do not see an option that suits your
plan for giving, we invite you to contribute to an
existing discretionary fund. One of the many advantages
of this type of giving is that there is no minimum
contribution — you may give as little or as much as
you wish, as often as you wish.
[...]
Unrestricted Net Assets
AS OF DECEMBER 31 , 2000
Discretionary (unrestricted) 20 %
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Donor Advised Funds 36 %
Designated Funds 4 %
Field of Interest Funds 23 %
Scholarship Funds 17 %
Page 4
Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Alamo Fund
Phoebe P. and John H. Foster Memorial Fund
Nat and Mannie Goldsmith Memorial Trust
Ruth Lang Charitable Fund
[...]
Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary Kay Owens Memorial Fund
Gaynelle and Gene Rankin Endowment Trust
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N D A T I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
<end/quote>
I could not find a report for Year 2001 BUT Year 2002 reads virtually the same
as Year 2000 and for a fact the "Nizkor Fund" received money from the San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"!!
http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/AnnRpt2002.pdf
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: AnnRpt2002)
The Nizkor Fund is listed again as being a recipient for Year 2002 yet Ken McVay
denies receiving ANY money from the San Antonio Area Foundation in a public
posting dated December 30, 2002!! I guess the San Antonio Area Foundation lies
about who it disburses funding to!!
Here is Ken McVay's very own Nizkor web site showing Ken McVay was a recipient
of San Antonio Area Foundation funding back in 1996!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...
The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.
Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.
Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material... <END>
Here is a link to the original news source and its archive regarding the above
article which proves Ken McVay lied when he has plainly stated: "No one ever
gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area Foundation... The
San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.
" (Quoted and source shown higher up in this post.)
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC
At the link above enter "Nizkor $50,000" into the search field, and
select these options:
Return: Best Matches First
Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date:
Activate search and you get:
1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpage=20&p_product=SAEC&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=Nizkor+%2450%2C000&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sort&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_text_Source-0=Express&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_useweights=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=50&%5B+Search+%5D.y=13
(This is the link I got for the return below on November 21, 2003 12:35AM CST)
(Archived locally as: SAE-N080396)
August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.The Nizkor project
[View the full-text article, 526 words]
http://archives.newsbank.com/nojavascript.html
<End of search return>
Remember folks Ken Mcvay stated higher up:
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)
"No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation..."
BUT Ken McVay's own web site content AND the San Antonio News Express show that
instead of: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
Antonio Area Foundation..." we saw: "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project"!!!! VERY BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
Now I ask everyone--Do any of you think Ken McVay reported that $50,000 (plus
all the other donations he gave thanks for) to the CCRA? Who would pay tax on
money they claim they never received YET obviously did according to all the
documentation?
DOES TAX FRAUD COME TO PEOPLE'S MINDS??
The term AUDIT keeps popping up in my mind!
Attention lurkers-- these are the contacts to report Ken McVay:
Auditor - CCRA:
canadainternational@pwgsc.gc.ca, comments@rc.gc.ca
For office phone numbers and addresses, please visit our "Contact us" page
at http://www.ccra.gc.ca/contact.
McVay lied when he said that $50,000 was donated to "the San Antonio Area
Foundation"-- that $50,000 was donated to Ken McVay and his Nizkor Project by
"the San Antonio Area Foundation"!! As a reminder Ken McVay did state these
words about liars being self evident in their lies (as quoted from higher up in
this post): "[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more
complicated-they're always contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself
becomes self-evident."
To further prove Ken McVay is a pathological liar and an obvious tax dodger here
he is mentioning the San Antonio Area Foundation as being one of his funding
sources yet remember Ken McVay is on record as stating: "Neither The Nizkor
Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
<start/quote>
From: Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=50n608%249ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca&lr=&hl=en
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
(Archived locally as: Thanks2SAAF)
You claimed at the top of this post: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has
never paid me, or Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection
with the San Antonio Area Foundation" but your post above contradicts your
claim with your very own words of: "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund..
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial improvements
in service."
If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund then why did you give thanks?
More of Ken McVay plainly telling one and all that the San Antonio Area
Foundation is his American financing source:
<start/quote>
In article <31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net>,
hk@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
suggestion that he actually do some research:
First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perhaps cantalk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to...
[...]
In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.
By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
[Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?
[Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=4pvbkg%24auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca&lr=&hl=en
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
(Archived locally as: SAAFfinances)
This should be clear even to someone as delusional as yourself.
I do believe my documented facts are irrefutable and it is you who is denying
reality and is being delusional!!
Need I say more other than liar and tax cheat Kenneth N. McVay of Nanaimo,
British Columbia should be audited and prosecuted for tax evasion upon all the
documentation which testifies against him is verified! Canada should not be
subsidizing a deadbeat liar!
Other Ken McVay funding scams exposed in these archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060868_1@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qa5trvoa3c6ella1o1j7btunqvcbjh9pt2%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
Message-ID: <qa5trvoa3c6ella1o1j7btunqvcbjh9pt2@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Nov 2003 23:56:36 GMT
B'nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
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Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
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<c655a8bb1cfca781e6feda7a183102a1@news.teranews.com> Roger <roger@ . > wrote:
In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Ward Cleaver wrote in message <9i5h00tls8p1glrs8qliusph6nrssvevn2@4ax.com>:On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:25:57 -0800, <bu9rt40q54@enews2.newsguy.com> "Ken McVay,OBC" <kmcvay@nospamnizkor.org> wrote:"Sara Salzman"http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations HeDenies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor FundNo, he didn't. Because he didn't receive them.
Not according to his own web site and according to the San Antonio Express!!
From my latest archive cataloging The Nizkor Project of Nanaimo, British
Columbia Canada directed by Kenneth N. McVay:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=f7murv0qqpmcfa2ldce7epo9gtg5am23rl%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT
Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! R_1122
Message-ID: <f7murv0qqpmcfa2ldce7epo9gtg5am23rl@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT
AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
Selected excerpts:
The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
Prologue:
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
My terse reply to Ken McVay's statement above: "You prove your lies are self
evident with your own words you tax dodger con-man liar!"
Ken McVay first denies receiving money from "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund." [documented and archived locally (in case the web pages get
pulled) and all URLs are given by me for verification purposes]
EXHIBIT 1:
<start/quote>
"What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund."
That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury
continue to ignore:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=9334m8%241nm1%241%40news.tht.net&rnum=3
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
EXHIBIT 2: (McVay cited the link above and here are the contents in part)
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)
<start/quote>
"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175.3c2814b6@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com... What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled the money?
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me -
or anyone else, to my knowledge...
The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
maintanence or development.
You can verify their existence by visiting
http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal...
Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
to it.
<end/quote>
Exhibit 3:
<start/quote>
In article <3b80b9d6.53015474@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
Ken Lewis <klewis@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[TubbyBlubber excised]
As the sniveling, cowardly Brad**** well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
go directly into an endowment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
will fuel itself.
SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
creation of an endowment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
fund.
It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
always, he doesn't give a rat's *** for the truth.
Duh.
<end/quote>
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From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bull****
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1@news.tht.net>
Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT3)
Exhibit 4: (Notice the public posting was made! December 30, 2002)
<start/quote>
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" AND you are also
on record as stating: "...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio,
and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it" on June 2, 2000.
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(This is kind of fun. You keep making an *** of yourself, and I'll keep
laughing at you.)
<end/quote>
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Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmcvay@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.131501115@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
End of Kenneth McVay's (Director of The Nizkor Project) own documented words
denying he has ever received any money of benefit from the San Antonio Area
Foundation OR "The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
ON THE OTHER HAND THESE DOCUMENTS PROVE MCVAY TO BE AN OUTRIGHT LIAR!!
Here is what the San Antonio Area Foundation reported for Year 2000:
<start/quote>
http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
[Link active for downloading and for verification November 20, 2003.
(I have already downloaded and archived the PDF in case it becomes
unavailable for some reason.)]
Our mission: Helping donors achieve their charitable goals
Annual Report 2000
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
Page 3
Fund Types
The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the quality
of life in our community through funding that impacts vital nonprofit
organizations so they can help people in time of need.
Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
These funds enable the Area Foundation to respond
flexibly to changing community needs and emergencies.
Decisions on how to most appropriately use these
funds are left to the discretion of the Area Foundation’s
Advisory Committees and Board of Directors. Any size
gift may be given as a discretionary gift.
You’ll find many reasonable options for creating your
own fund in the paragraphs that follow. However,
if you wish to contribute to the work of the Area
Foundation and do not see an option that suits your
plan for giving, we invite you to contribute to an
existing discretionary fund. One of the many advantages
of this type of giving is that there is no minimum
contribution — you may give as little or as much as
you wish, as often as you wish.
[...]
Unrestricted Net Assets
AS OF DECEMBER 31 , 2000
Discretionary (unrestricted) 20 %
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Donor Advised Funds 36 %
Designated Funds 4 %
Field of Interest Funds 23 %
Scholarship Funds 17 %
Page 4
Discretionary Funds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Alamo Fund
Phoebe P. and John H. Foster Memorial Fund
Nat and Mannie Goldsmith Memorial Trust
Ruth Lang Charitable Fund
[...]
Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary Kay Owens Memorial Fund
Gaynelle and Gene Rankin Endowment Trust
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N D A T I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
<end/quote>
I could not find a report for Year 2001 BUT Year 2002 reads virtually the same
as Year 2000 and for a fact the "Nizkor Fund" received money from the San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"!!
http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/AnnRpt2002.pdf
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: AnnRpt2002)
The Nizkor Fund is listed again as being a recipient for Year 2002 yet Ken McVay
denies receiving ANY money from the San Antonio Area Foundation in a public
posting dated December 30, 2002!! I guess the San Antonio Area Foundation lies
about who it disburses funding to!!
Here is Ken McVay's very own Nizkor web site showing Ken McVay was a recipient
of San Antonio Area Foundation funding back in 1996!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...
The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.
Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.
Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material... <END>
Here is a link to the original news source and its archive regarding the above
article which proves Ken McVay lied when he has plainly stated: "No one ever
gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area Foundation... The
San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.
" (Quoted and source shown higher up in this post.)
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC
At the link above enter "Nizkor $50,000" into the search field, and
select these options:
Return: Best Matches First
Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date:
Activate search and you get:
1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpage=20&p_product=SAEC&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=Nizkor+%2450%2C000&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sort&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_text_Source-0=Express&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_useweights=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=50&%5B+Search+%5D.y=13
(This is the link I got for the return below on November 21, 2003 12:35AM CST)
(Archived locally as: SAE-N080396)
August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.The Nizkor project
[View the full-text article, 526 words]
http://archives.newsbank.com/nojavascript.html
<End of search return>
Remember folks Ken Mcvay stated higher up:
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)
"No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation..."
BUT Ken McVay's own web site content AND the San Antonio News Express show that
instead of: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
Antonio Area Foundation..." we saw: "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project"!!!! VERY BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
Now I ask everyone--Do any of you think Ken McVay reported that $50,000 (plus
all the other donations he gave thanks for) to the CCRA? Who would pay tax on
money they claim they never received YET obviously did according to all the
documentation?
DOES TAX FRAUD COME TO PEOPLE'S MINDS??
The term AUDIT keeps popping up in my mind!
Attention lurkers-- these are the contacts to report Ken McVay:
Auditor - CCRA:
canadainternational@pwgsc.gc.ca, comments@rc.gc.ca
For office phone numbers and addresses, please visit our "Contact us" page
at http://www.ccra.gc.ca/contact.
McVay lied when he said that $50,000 was donated to "the San Antonio Area
Foundation"-- that $50,000 was donated to Ken McVay and his Nizkor Project by
"the San Antonio Area Foundation"!! As a reminder Ken McVay did state these
words about liars being self evident in their lies (as quoted from higher up in
this post): "[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more
complicated-they're always contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself
becomes self-evident."
To further prove Ken McVay is a pathological liar and an obvious tax dodger here
he is mentioning the San Antonio Area Foundation as being one of his funding
sources yet remember Ken McVay is on record as stating: "Neither The Nizkor
Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
<start/quote>
From: Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
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From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
(Archived locally as: Thanks2SAAF)
You claimed at the top of this post: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has
never paid me, or Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection
with the San Antonio Area Foundation" but your post above contradicts your
claim with your very own words of: "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund..
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial improvements
in service."
If you never received any money from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund then why did you give thanks?
More of Ken McVay plainly telling one and all that the San Antonio Area
Foundation is his American financing source:
<start/quote>
In article <31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net>,
hk@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
suggestion that he actually do some research:
First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perhaps cantalk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to...
[...]
In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.
By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
[Ftp] http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?
[Europe] ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)......unlearn
<end/quote>
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From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
(Archived locally as: SAAFfinances)
This should be clear even to someone as delusional as yourself.
I do believe my documented facts are irrefutable and it is you who is denying
reality and is being delusional!!
Need I say more other than liar and tax cheat Kenneth N. McVay of Nanaimo,
British Columbia should be audited and prosecuted for tax evasion upon all the
documentation which testifies against him is verified! Canada should not be
subsidizing a deadbeat liar!
Other Ken McVay funding scams exposed in these archives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060868_1@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=qa5trvoa3c6ella1o1j7btunqvcbjh9pt2%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
Message-ID: <qa5trvoa3c6ella1o1j7btunqvcbjh9pt2@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Nov 2003 23:56:36 GMT
B'nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4186tvsr4d3oiodp2nibbuvuj91rakvimb%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
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Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
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Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
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