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Stephen Hyde
08-20-2003, 04:07 AM
Don't know if this is the right place to ask this but...

For the past 6 months i've been trying to get my ex to talk to me, but a
week ago she filed a protection order against me. I'm not going to go into
details about what happened, other than she broke up with me, after being
pressured by her mother to do so. Her mother accused me of not being a good
father to my ex's kids, things like not having a car, only having 2
part-time jobs instead of a full time one, etc... and also accused me of
abusing the kids. my ex's mother has successfully convinced her to hate me
and stuff, and has gone as far as threaten to take my ex's kids away from
her if she tried to go back to me. (btw, i'm not the biological father of
my ex's two kids, but her youngest son was born when I was with her, and his
father killed himself).
On the protection order, my ex made some false accusations on the form, and
I have all the evidence and everything to back it up, as well as to back up
my claim that her mother is threatening her if she took me back. I am ready
and prepared to go to the hearing, except that she lives in Orofino, ID.
unfortunately, me being the loser that doesn't own a car, I can't get over
there, and I can only go as far as Lewiston, ID by bus (Orofino is about 40
miles away from Lewiston, for those who don't know where these places are
at). Because of this, I missed the hearing and now have a 90-day
protection order against me. I can request another hearing but then the
problem of getting over there to Orofino from Lewiston still exists...
My question is, is there any way a protection order hearing can be moved to
another county? or am I s**t out of luck? and also, could I have a case
against my ex's mother, as far as a lawsuit goes? (slander, emotional
distress, etc...). No flames please, and I hope I made sense...

Stephen Hyde
swhyde_ug@hotmail.com (my special e-mail address for any newsgroup
responses, don't care if it's SPAMed or not)

David Martel
08-20-2003, 05:53 AM
Stephen,

Why do you wish to oppose this order? It seems to me that you won't
violate the order if you have very limited means of travel. While you may
feel "slandered" by the order no one else need know about this matter. A
protection order is not an admission of guilt on your part. Your
relationship with this woman and her children is over.
If you must try this consult with a local lawyer.

Good luck,
Dave M.

Christopher Green
08-20-2003, 12:23 PM
"Stephen Hyde" <swhyde_ug@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<x6icnbSud5_-y96iXTWJhA@comcast.com>... Don't know if this is the right place to ask this but... For the past 6 months i've been trying to get my ex to talk to me, but a week ago she filed a protection order against me.... On the protection order, my ex made some false accusations on the form, and I have all the evidence and everything to back it up, as well as to back up my claim that her mother is threatening her if she took me back.... I missed the hearing and now have a 90-day protection order against me. I can request another hearing but then the problem of getting over there to Orofino from Lewiston still exists... My question is, is there any way a protection order hearing can be moved to another county? or am I s**t out of luck? and also, could I have a case against my ex's mother, as far as a lawsuit goes? (slander, emotional distress, etc...). No flames please, and I hope I made sense...

Hearings on domestic violence restraining orders can be had in her
county or yours, but she gets to have it where it's convenient for
her. I don't think you'll have much of an argument that it is in the
interest of justice to force her to come to your county for the
hearing. Maybe you could write the judge in Orofino and ask for
removal to Lewiston, which is as far as the bus goes. If he won't
grant it, you have to figure out how to get to Orofino.

Court papers are privileged, so there's no case to be made for
defamation, and what you're talking about is far short of actionable
infliction of emotional distress. Litigation for the purpose of vexing
or harassing is just as illegal in Idaho as it is in other places, but
her action doesn't sound like anything of the kind.

Other than getting a car, paying for a taxi from Lewiston, or paying a
lawyer in Orofino to appear for you, you are more likely than not SOL.

--
Not a lawyer,

Chris Green

R.G. Conken
08-23-2003, 07:09 AM
risaacs@intrnet.net (R Isaacs J.D.) wrote in message news:<48daeb75.0308211606.694cccc@posting.google.com>... cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green) wrote in message news:<c31fa7b1.0308201123.239f4c2f@posting.google.com>... "Stephen Hyde" <swhyde_ug@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<x6icnbSud5_-y96iXTWJhA@comcast.com>... Don't know if this is the right place to ask this but... For the past 6 months i've been trying to get my ex to talk to me, but a week ago she filed a protection order against me.... On the protection order, my ex made some false accusations on the form, and I have all the evidence and everything to back it up, as well as to back up my claim that her mother is threatening her if she took me back.... I missed the hearing and now have a 90-day protection order against me. I can request another hearing but then the problem of getting over there to Orofino from Lewiston still exists... My question is, is there any way a protection order hearing can be moved to another county? or am I s**t out of luck? and also, could I have a case against my ex's mother, as far as a lawsuit goes? (slander, emotional distress, etc...). No flames please, and I hope I made sense... Hearings on domestic violence restraining orders can be had in her county or yours, but she gets to have it where it's convenient for her. I don't think you'll have much of an argument that it is in the interest of justice to force her to come to your county for the hearing. Maybe you could write the judge in Orofino and ask for removal to Lewiston, which is as far as the bus goes. If he won't grant it, you have to figure out how to get to Orofino. Court papers are privileged, so there's no case to be made for defamation, and what you're talking about is far short of actionable infliction of emotional distress. Litigation for the purpose of vexing or harassing is just as illegal in Idaho as it is in other places, but her action doesn't sound like anything of the kind. Other than getting a car, paying for a taxi from Lewiston, or paying a lawyer in Orofino to appear for you, you are more likely than not SOL. check out http://www.fathersrights.org for free tactics and aids on fighting false allegations and protective orders

I hope you choose Isaacs over Pangborn. Isaacs is a real attorney.

Robert Gautier
08-24-2003, 07:56 AM
risaacs@intrnet.net (R Isaacs J.D.) wrote in message news:<48daeb75.0308211606.694cccc@posting.google.com>... cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green) wrote in message news:<c31fa7b1.0308201123.239f4c2f@posting.google.com>... "Stephen Hyde" <swhyde_ug@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<x6icnbSud5_-y96iXTWJhA@comcast.com>... Don't know if this is the right place to ask this but... For the past 6 months i've been trying to get my ex to talk to me, but a week ago she filed a protection order against me.... On the protection order, my ex made some false accusations on the form, and I have all the evidence and everything to back it up, as well as to back up my claim that her mother is threatening her if she took me back.... I missed the hearing and now have a 90-day protection order against me. I can request another hearing but then the problem of getting over there to Orofino from Lewiston still exists... My question is, is there any way a protection order hearing can be moved to another county? or am I s**t out of luck? and also, could I have a case against my ex's mother, as far as a lawsuit goes? (slander, emotional distress, etc...). No flames please, and I hope I made sense... Hearings on domestic violence restraining orders can be had in her county or yours, but she gets to have it where it's convenient for her. I don't think you'll have much of an argument that it is in the interest of justice to force her to come to your county for the hearing. Maybe you could write the judge in Orofino and ask for removal to Lewiston, which is as far as the bus goes. If he won't grant it, you have to figure out how to get to Orofino. Court papers are privileged, so there's no case to be made for defamation, and what you're talking about is far short of actionable infliction of emotional distress. Litigation for the purpose of vexing or harassing is just as illegal in Idaho as it is in other places, but her action doesn't sound like anything of the kind. Other than getting a car, paying for a taxi from Lewiston, or paying a lawyer in Orofino to appear for you, you are more likely than not SOL. check out http://www.fathersrights.org for free tactics and aids on fighting false allegations and protective orders

"free tactics"! from a REAL lawyer! The first thing ol' Pangborn
talks about is how he won't do work for free and unlike Isaacs,
Pangborn isn't even an attorney! Thank God in Heaven above that Mr.
Isaacs is offering dads an alternative to the trash that Pangborn
tries to peddle.

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