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"B" <nospamblam@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Dg1Pa.247946$jp.6899976@twister.southeast.rr. com... Call the AG on the phone and ASK what to do. But you also seem bent on an exposé. If I were you I would deactivate that website because it looks
like an effort to discredit and accuse, which may harm your chances for civil suit when the criminal part is done. "Admin" <admin@forum4u.info> wrote in message news:3f0c6a6d$0$49114$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... Looking for feedback about how to get the Attorney General of Washington State to investigate a death. The following information and more is available online at http://forum4u.info/elvina.php . The following text extract is provided as a shortened version. Summary: ------------------------------------------------------------ Death of Elvina. Stopped breathing. 11:45 PM, Feb 7, 2001 1. Elvina was admitted to Southwest Washington Medical Center hospital on February 23, 2001 with a breathing problem. {11} (Numbers in curly braces refer to line items in a table that is viewable at the related web site.) The location is Vancouver, Washington. 2. Marie said that she fears Elvina's son will prolong her life using better medical care. {50} 3. Marie blocked medical help from Elvina's son. {12, 15, 35, 42} 4. Marie blocked medical help from a medical expert, Dr. Y. Chen, MD, PhD. {34} 5. Marie said to hospital staff that Elvina was DNR (Do Not Resuscitate). Elvina did NOT say that she was DNR to hospital staff, 6. Condition for DNR to become effective was NOT met. {8} 7. Elvina was discharged from hospital and admitted to HOSPICE SW on Feb 3, 2001. Taken home to be cared by Marie and her daughter Johanna. {30, 41, 42, 45, 48, 49, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 62} 8. On or about Feb 4, 2001, Marie was told that Elvina's son will arrive in Portland on Feb 10, 2001. {B} 9. People said pain was not a problem for Elvina. 9.1 Dr. Smith, MD {24, 31, 39} 9.2 Dr. Jacobsen, MD {27, 28} 9.3 Dr. Sale, MD {19, 29, 32} 9.4 R. Hatfield, RN {51} 9.5 J. Higgins, RN {52, 54} 9.6 K. Ashling, MSW {44} 9.7 S. Brown, MSW {45} 10. Dr. Smith planned to prescribe Tylenol and Tandol for pain. {22} 11. Dr. P. Jacobsen said narcotics are NOT needed for pain management and should be AVOIDED. {28} 12. Dr. David A. Smith said pain can be managed well with NON-narcotics. {31} 13. Dr. Smith had a long talk with Marie. The topics were not
documented in the medical records. {39} 14. Dr. Smith prescribed a Narcotic: Roxanol (morphine) at discharge. {40} 15. Doctor predicted 1 to 2 months for Elvina to live. Life terminated after less than 5 days of Marie's family's care. {25} 16. First significant pain reported by phone to Hospice SW by Marie at 7:45 AM, Feb 7, 2001. No confirmation by Hospice SW personnel. Hospice SW nurse recommended a dramatic increase of dosage of morphine to Elvina to begin that night, Feb 7, 2001. {53} 17. Hospice SW nurse home visit to Elvina was blocked by Marie at 10:30 AM, Feb 7, 2001. {54} 18. Private Nurse started home care of Elvina on Feb 7, 2001. {54, 60} 19. Elvina's medical costs reduce inheritance of Marie. {60, 68, 69, 77} 20. Daniel reported the death of Elvina to Hospice SW by telephone, February 7, 2001, 11:51 PM. {57} 21. Hospice SW nurse and Marie failed to record quantity of Roxanol destroyed. {58} 22. Dr. Smith completed the Certificate of Death. There was no autopsy. {61} ------------------------------------------------------------ Benefits to Marie, Daniel, Johanna and Jessica for death of Elvina 1. Gifting of house to Marie becomes irrevokable. 2. More money from contracts payable-on-death to Marie because Elvina could not modify the contracts. 3. More money in Marie's family's pockets because medical costs would reduce their inheritance. 4. Extra benefits for Elvina's death before February 10, 2001, when her son arrived from Texas. (Elvina died February 7, 2001, just four days after coming under the care of Marie's family.) 4.1 Hide money trail which benefits the Marie's family because Marie would not release financial documents after the death of Elvina. Whereas, Elvina would have allowed her son to look at her records. 4.2 Elvina's "Do Not Rescitate" document could not be challenged. Elvina's son would have challenged the legality of the document and made sure that all the preconditions for it's effect were met. 4.3 Marie's family avoided repaying personal loans from Elvina. 5. Reduce Marie's family's embarrasment over financial and emotional abuse of Elvina , as documented in financial records and her personal diaries, because Marie would not release Elvina's personal diaries after the death of Elvina. Whereas, Elvina would have allowed her son to look at her personal diaries. 6. Reduce Marie's family's risk of being sued for slander by Elvina's son by withholding evidence contained in Elvina's personal diaries. 7. Ending sleep deprivation for Marie's family. ------------------------------------------------------------- Information withheld related to Elvina. Note: Elvina also regularly used the name Alvina. 1 Medication logs of medications administered by Marie, Johanna, Daniel and Mary Perry, RN, to Elvina while she was under their control from February 3, 2001 up to the time of her death at 11:45 PM February 7, 2001. The records should indicate the quantities, times and administrator of Roxanol (morphine), Ativan (sedative / hypnotic), Lisinopril (anti high blood pressure), Flovent (breathing assistance), Serevent (breathing assistance), lorazepam (breathing assistance) and other medications. These records were not in the medical records from Southwest Washington Medical Center and Hospice SW. Apparently these records were never kept or Marie refused to release them. 2 The quantities of Roxanol and Ativan (lorazipan) and intensol were not recorded on the HOSPICE SOUTHWEST POSTDEATH CHECKLIST. This document was filled out by the HOSPICE SOUTHWEST nurse approximately 40 minutes after the death of Elvina was reported. 3 The personal diaries of Elvina were withheld by Marie. Elvina's diaries were her primary record of finances and activities. 4 The Federal Tax Returns of Elvina were withheld by Marie. In addition, after she was relieved as Personal Representative of the estate, she told the accountant for Elvina not to release Elvina's Federal Tax information to her son. 5 Marie refused to give the name of Elvina's doctor to another doctor who was an expert in the field of Elvina's diagnosis. Elvina had given her permission for the second doctor to speak to her primary doctor at the hospital. 6 Marie refused to explain why she blocked additional medical assistance for Elvina. 7 Marie convinced Michael, Elvina's grandson, not to tell his father, Elvina's son, that Elvina was admitted to the hospital with a breathing problem. This delayed for 3 days Elvina's sons' effort to get additional medical help for Elvina. 8 Marie attempted to persuade Michael, Elvina's grandson, not to tell his father, Elvina's son, the name of Elvina's doctor. (Elvina's son was in Texas at that time. Elvina was in Vancouver, Washington.) 9 Marie's attorney compiled a list of Elvina's documents that were available at her office in Battle Ground, Washington. Marie refused permission for her attorney to release that list of documents to Michael, Elvina's grandson, in Portland, Oregon. 10 Marie withheld a copy of a deposit to Elvina's account. Marie claimed that said deposit was a repayment of an $8,000 personal loan from Elvina to Daniel, Marie's husband. 11 Marie withheld Elvina's checkbook registers. 12 Marie withheld copies of deposit documents related to Elvina's checking and savings accounts. 13 Marie withheld copies of Elvina's bank account Opening Account forms. Said documents were requested to prove the disposition of the accounts after her death. 14 Marie withheld copies of Elvina's annuities, until the Superior Court ordered her to provide them. 15 Marie refused a request for authorization of heirs of the estate to obtain Elvina's medical records at the heir's expense. 16 Marie refused to provide information about the financial investments that Elvina made since 1991. Marie's also refused permission for the heirs to obtain their own information at their expense. 17 Marie refused to provide information about the credit card accounts of Elvina. 18 Marie refused to provide information regarding her impersonation of Elvina over the phone to purchase an expensive airline ticket for her daughter, using Elvina's credit card. 19 Marie refused to provide the original $8,000 check written to her husband and which had a different signature than Elvina's usual signature. Is it possible that Marie forged Elvina's signature? 20 Marie refused to provide information about a personal loan to her daughter, Johanna until confronted with testimony from Michael. According to Marie, the personal loan from Elvina was for $3,263.60. Marie refused to provide written proof that the personal loan was for this amount, such as a check from Elvina and the notation in Elvina's personal diary. 21 Marie provided a copy of Elvina's bank signature card. (1) there was no bank name or address on the card. (2) the account numbers in the account column did not match the account numbers of Elvina's bank accounts. (3) the information appeared to have been added to after the signatures were made. Marie refused to provide better documentation regarding the opening of Elvina's bank accounts. 22 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's Security First Life Annuity Account Number A2006182. 23 Marie refused to authorize Elvina's financial investment advisor and broker, BILL BRYANT, Bryant and Associates, Vancouver, WA to provide any of Elvina's financial information. 24 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's UNUM AMERICA Insurance Policy Number 182IND00509559. 25 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's ALLIED INSURANCE Policy Number 97301-7625. 26 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's CSE INSURANCE GROUP Policy Number WAA0886995. 27 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's SECURE HORIZONS Insurance Policy Number 2153362-01. 28 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's personal telephone records. 29 Marie refused to explain why she refused to provide the above requested information. 30 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's subsidizing Marie's living expenses. Elvina paid cash for her house and property. It appears that Marie and her family lived there without cost. Marie refuses to disclose Elvina's financial information. 31 Marie blocked the attendance of Michael, Elvina's grandson, at Marie's informal deposition. Michael was there at the request of his father, Elvina's son, who was in Texas at the time. The informal deposition was held at Battle Ground, Washington, at the office of Jackson, Jackson and Kurtz. Marie refused to allow any recording or transcript made of the informal hearing. Therefore, the informal deposition produced no useable information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --- Information NOT included in this summary: * Personnel details. * Detail table of events. * Financial Distribution. * Medical Records. This information is available online at http://forum4u.info/elvina.php . -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --
"B" <nospamblam@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Dg1Pa.247946$jp.6899976@twister.southeast.rr. com... Call the AG on the phone and ASK what to do. But you also seem bent on an exposé. If I were you I would deactivate that website because it looks
like an effort to discredit and accuse, which may harm your chances for civil suit when the criminal part is done. "Admin" <admin@forum4u.info> wrote in message news:3f0c6a6d$0$49114$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... Looking for feedback about how to get the Attorney General of Washington State to investigate a death. The following information and more is available online at http://forum4u.info/elvina.php . The following text extract is provided as a shortened version. Summary: ------------------------------------------------------------ Death of Elvina. Stopped breathing. 11:45 PM, Feb 7, 2001 1. Elvina was admitted to Southwest Washington Medical Center hospital on February 23, 2001 with a breathing problem. {11} (Numbers in curly braces refer to line items in a table that is viewable at the related web site.) The location is Vancouver, Washington. 2. Marie said that she fears Elvina's son will prolong her life using better medical care. {50} 3. Marie blocked medical help from Elvina's son. {12, 15, 35, 42} 4. Marie blocked medical help from a medical expert, Dr. Y. Chen, MD, PhD. {34} 5. Marie said to hospital staff that Elvina was DNR (Do Not Resuscitate). Elvina did NOT say that she was DNR to hospital staff, 6. Condition for DNR to become effective was NOT met. {8} 7. Elvina was discharged from hospital and admitted to HOSPICE SW on Feb 3, 2001. Taken home to be cared by Marie and her daughter Johanna. {30, 41, 42, 45, 48, 49, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 62} 8. On or about Feb 4, 2001, Marie was told that Elvina's son will arrive in Portland on Feb 10, 2001. {B} 9. People said pain was not a problem for Elvina. 9.1 Dr. Smith, MD {24, 31, 39} 9.2 Dr. Jacobsen, MD {27, 28} 9.3 Dr. Sale, MD {19, 29, 32} 9.4 R. Hatfield, RN {51} 9.5 J. Higgins, RN {52, 54} 9.6 K. Ashling, MSW {44} 9.7 S. Brown, MSW {45} 10. Dr. Smith planned to prescribe Tylenol and Tandol for pain. {22} 11. Dr. P. Jacobsen said narcotics are NOT needed for pain management and should be AVOIDED. {28} 12. Dr. David A. Smith said pain can be managed well with NON-narcotics. {31} 13. Dr. Smith had a long talk with Marie. The topics were not
documented in the medical records. {39} 14. Dr. Smith prescribed a Narcotic: Roxanol (morphine) at discharge. {40} 15. Doctor predicted 1 to 2 months for Elvina to live. Life terminated after less than 5 days of Marie's family's care. {25} 16. First significant pain reported by phone to Hospice SW by Marie at 7:45 AM, Feb 7, 2001. No confirmation by Hospice SW personnel. Hospice SW nurse recommended a dramatic increase of dosage of morphine to Elvina to begin that night, Feb 7, 2001. {53} 17. Hospice SW nurse home visit to Elvina was blocked by Marie at 10:30 AM, Feb 7, 2001. {54} 18. Private Nurse started home care of Elvina on Feb 7, 2001. {54, 60} 19. Elvina's medical costs reduce inheritance of Marie. {60, 68, 69, 77} 20. Daniel reported the death of Elvina to Hospice SW by telephone, February 7, 2001, 11:51 PM. {57} 21. Hospice SW nurse and Marie failed to record quantity of Roxanol destroyed. {58} 22. Dr. Smith completed the Certificate of Death. There was no autopsy. {61} ------------------------------------------------------------ Benefits to Marie, Daniel, Johanna and Jessica for death of Elvina 1. Gifting of house to Marie becomes irrevokable. 2. More money from contracts payable-on-death to Marie because Elvina could not modify the contracts. 3. More money in Marie's family's pockets because medical costs would reduce their inheritance. 4. Extra benefits for Elvina's death before February 10, 2001, when her son arrived from Texas. (Elvina died February 7, 2001, just four days after coming under the care of Marie's family.) 4.1 Hide money trail which benefits the Marie's family because Marie would not release financial documents after the death of Elvina. Whereas, Elvina would have allowed her son to look at her records. 4.2 Elvina's "Do Not Rescitate" document could not be challenged. Elvina's son would have challenged the legality of the document and made sure that all the preconditions for it's effect were met. 4.3 Marie's family avoided repaying personal loans from Elvina. 5. Reduce Marie's family's embarrasment over financial and emotional abuse of Elvina , as documented in financial records and her personal diaries, because Marie would not release Elvina's personal diaries after the death of Elvina. Whereas, Elvina would have allowed her son to look at her personal diaries. 6. Reduce Marie's family's risk of being sued for slander by Elvina's son by withholding evidence contained in Elvina's personal diaries. 7. Ending sleep deprivation for Marie's family. ------------------------------------------------------------- Information withheld related to Elvina. Note: Elvina also regularly used the name Alvina. 1 Medication logs of medications administered by Marie, Johanna, Daniel and Mary Perry, RN, to Elvina while she was under their control from February 3, 2001 up to the time of her death at 11:45 PM February 7, 2001. The records should indicate the quantities, times and administrator of Roxanol (morphine), Ativan (sedative / hypnotic), Lisinopril (anti high blood pressure), Flovent (breathing assistance), Serevent (breathing assistance), lorazepam (breathing assistance) and other medications. These records were not in the medical records from Southwest Washington Medical Center and Hospice SW. Apparently these records were never kept or Marie refused to release them. 2 The quantities of Roxanol and Ativan (lorazipan) and intensol were not recorded on the HOSPICE SOUTHWEST POSTDEATH CHECKLIST. This document was filled out by the HOSPICE SOUTHWEST nurse approximately 40 minutes after the death of Elvina was reported. 3 The personal diaries of Elvina were withheld by Marie. Elvina's diaries were her primary record of finances and activities. 4 The Federal Tax Returns of Elvina were withheld by Marie. In addition, after she was relieved as Personal Representative of the estate, she told the accountant for Elvina not to release Elvina's Federal Tax information to her son. 5 Marie refused to give the name of Elvina's doctor to another doctor who was an expert in the field of Elvina's diagnosis. Elvina had given her permission for the second doctor to speak to her primary doctor at the hospital. 6 Marie refused to explain why she blocked additional medical assistance for Elvina. 7 Marie convinced Michael, Elvina's grandson, not to tell his father, Elvina's son, that Elvina was admitted to the hospital with a breathing problem. This delayed for 3 days Elvina's sons' effort to get additional medical help for Elvina. 8 Marie attempted to persuade Michael, Elvina's grandson, not to tell his father, Elvina's son, the name of Elvina's doctor. (Elvina's son was in Texas at that time. Elvina was in Vancouver, Washington.) 9 Marie's attorney compiled a list of Elvina's documents that were available at her office in Battle Ground, Washington. Marie refused permission for her attorney to release that list of documents to Michael, Elvina's grandson, in Portland, Oregon. 10 Marie withheld a copy of a deposit to Elvina's account. Marie claimed that said deposit was a repayment of an $8,000 personal loan from Elvina to Daniel, Marie's husband. 11 Marie withheld Elvina's checkbook registers. 12 Marie withheld copies of deposit documents related to Elvina's checking and savings accounts. 13 Marie withheld copies of Elvina's bank account Opening Account forms. Said documents were requested to prove the disposition of the accounts after her death. 14 Marie withheld copies of Elvina's annuities, until the Superior Court ordered her to provide them. 15 Marie refused a request for authorization of heirs of the estate to obtain Elvina's medical records at the heir's expense. 16 Marie refused to provide information about the financial investments that Elvina made since 1991. Marie's also refused permission for the heirs to obtain their own information at their expense. 17 Marie refused to provide information about the credit card accounts of Elvina. 18 Marie refused to provide information regarding her impersonation of Elvina over the phone to purchase an expensive airline ticket for her daughter, using Elvina's credit card. 19 Marie refused to provide the original $8,000 check written to her husband and which had a different signature than Elvina's usual signature. Is it possible that Marie forged Elvina's signature? 20 Marie refused to provide information about a personal loan to her daughter, Johanna until confronted with testimony from Michael. According to Marie, the personal loan from Elvina was for $3,263.60. Marie refused to provide written proof that the personal loan was for this amount, such as a check from Elvina and the notation in Elvina's personal diary. 21 Marie provided a copy of Elvina's bank signature card. (1) there was no bank name or address on the card. (2) the account numbers in the account column did not match the account numbers of Elvina's bank accounts. (3) the information appeared to have been added to after the signatures were made. Marie refused to provide better documentation regarding the opening of Elvina's bank accounts. 22 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's Security First Life Annuity Account Number A2006182. 23 Marie refused to authorize Elvina's financial investment advisor and broker, BILL BRYANT, Bryant and Associates, Vancouver, WA to provide any of Elvina's financial information. 24 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's UNUM AMERICA Insurance Policy Number 182IND00509559. 25 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's ALLIED INSURANCE Policy Number 97301-7625. 26 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's CSE INSURANCE GROUP Policy Number WAA0886995. 27 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's SECURE HORIZONS Insurance Policy Number 2153362-01. 28 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's personal telephone records. 29 Marie refused to explain why she refused to provide the above requested information. 30 Marie refused to provide any information about Elvina's subsidizing Marie's living expenses. Elvina paid cash for her house and property. It appears that Marie and her family lived there without cost. Marie refuses to disclose Elvina's financial information. 31 Marie blocked the attendance of Michael, Elvina's grandson, at Marie's informal deposition. Michael was there at the request of his father, Elvina's son, who was in Texas at the time. The informal deposition was held at Battle Ground, Washington, at the office of Jackson, Jackson and Kurtz. Marie refused to allow any recording or transcript made of the informal hearing. Therefore, the informal deposition produced no useable information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --- Information NOT included in this summary: * Personnel details. * Detail table of events. * Financial Distribution. * Medical Records. This information is available online at http://forum4u.info/elvina.php . -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --
