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Jason Corley
06-28-2003, 12:02 PM
Please note that Vox is a well-known spammer and crosspost abuser. I
have trimmed the followup lines accordingly. Apologies to all the other
fine English-speaking legal newsgroups he has fouled.

As there is no political content, I have also trimmed us.politics.

In us.legal John Graeme <jdgraeme@my-deja.com> wrote: "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message news:<1n9La.315$AE.85080@news.uswest.net>... "John Graeme" <jdgraeme@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:787f8b2d.0306272049.4f838095@posting.google.c om... "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote I'll believe those references before your usual rantings (which contain NO citations). And I found this on FindLaw, which says the same thing-- Believe that crap at your own peril, moron.

So FindLaw is crap and we should believe your rantings instead. You really area a dumb asshole.


Vox is a well-known troll and idiot. However, the part of FindLaw that
you quoted hasn't been updated in a little while, from what I can see.
For example, after Atwater v. Lago Vista, /any misdemeanor/ (including
simply criminal speeding) may be used as a basis for arrest and
impoundment (with subsequent inventory search) of your vehicle.

State law may provide you with more protection, and where the offense
is merely civil (some states set up a civil classification for some
traffic tickets) it isn't so clear, but when I got pulled over by the
Arizona Highway Patrol for going 86 in a 75 mph speed zone (oops), they
could have arrested me in handcuffs, taken me to jail, and impounded my
car. Whenever a police officer is authorized to make an impoundment,
the general rule goes, they may also make an inventory search of the
car.

You can read Atwater v. Lago Vista at the Supreme Court website.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/00pdf/99-1408.pdf

It concerned a seat belt violation.


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=> Vox Populi ©
06-28-2003, 01:57 PM
"Jason Corley" <corleyj@cobweb.scarymonsters.net> wrote in message
news:3efde62f@cobweb.scarymonsters.net... Please note that Vox is a well-known spammer and crosspost abuser.

Jason Corley is a well known ****-sucker and liar.
I have trimmed the followup lines accordingly.

Followups restored.

As there is no political content, I have also trimmed us.politics.

As you personally don't get to decide about the contend, us.politics
restored.
In us.legal John Graeme <jdgraeme@my-deja.com> wrote: "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
news:<1n9La.315$AE.85080@news.uswest.net>... "John Graeme" <jdgraeme@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:787f8b2d.0306272049.4f838095@posting.google.c om... > "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote > > > I'll believe those references before your usual rantings (which > contain NO citations). And I found this on FindLaw, which says the > same thing-- Believe that crap at your own peril, moron. So FindLaw is crap and we should believe your rantings instead. You really area a dumb asshole. However, the part of FindLaw that you quoted hasn't been updated in a little while, from what I can see.


Translation: Vox was correct as usual.
For example, after Atwater v. Lago Vista, /any misdemeanor/ (including simply criminal speeding) may be used as a basis for arrest and impoundment (with subsequent inventory search) of your vehicle.

Ibid.
State law may provide you with more protection, and where the offense is merely civil (some states set up a civil classification for some traffic tickets) it isn't so clear, but when I got pulled over by the Arizona Highway Patrol for going 86 in a 75 mph speed zone (oops), they could have arrested me in handcuffs, taken me to jail, and impounded my car. Whenever a police officer is authorized to make an impoundment, the general rule goes, they may also make an inventory search of the car. You can read Atwater v. Lago Vista at the Supreme Court website. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/00pdf/99-1408.pdf It concerned a seat belt violation.


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the fundamental ethics of the profession.

--Chief Justice Warren Burger

Jason Corley
06-29-2003, 09:55 AM
In us.legal James Hall <jhall@cuic.ca> wrote:
Gee thanks and when will you be by to wash my car ?

If this is some kind of observational law enforcement humor, I missed
it. =D




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************************************************** *************************
"You turn off the light and turn on the dark, you turn off the dark and
turn on the light --- positively marvillainous!" ---Krazy Kat, 1921
Jason D. Corley | Enderby@thecircus.org.uk | AIM: Concordancer

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