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Peter Murray
12-25-2003, 09:13 AM
If BK is federal why does which state you are in matter?

Thomas Miller
12-25-2003, 02:12 PM
Peter Murray <petermurray@earthlink.net> wrote: If BK is federal why does which state you are in matter?

Federal law often requires use of state law as a basis
for decision. Among many examples are that state law is
sometimes used to determine who "owns" interests in property and
that state law sometimes determines what property is exempt. The
state law which is relevant is not necessarily the law of
"the state you are in."

Unfortunately, how all this sorts out in any particular situation
can get quite complicated.

Kindest regards,

Tom

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richardsfault
12-25-2003, 07:20 PM
I never understood the wide discrepency in state BK laws and whether
the federal exemptions are avilable or not.

I can't think of any other laws that vary so much from state to state
except liquor and gambling regulations!
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Brett Weiss
12-26-2003, 09:22 AM
Because Congress, in its infinite wisdom, allows each state to choose
whether to use the "standard" federal exemptions, or set up those of its
own.

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"Peter Murray" <petermurray@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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John
12-26-2003, 02:25 PM
Peter Murray wrote:
If BK is federal why does which state you are in matter?

It may also be historical in nature. From what I understand, the Federal
government didn't have a bankruptcy law until the 19th Century. Prior to
that, it was completely a matter of state law. Apparently, like Brett said,
Congress felt in that case they did not want to supercede the provisions of
state law when the first Federal bankruptcy laws were enacted.

I have a copy of the Ohio laws from 1823 and it's interesting to see what
the laws were like back then. (Basically, debtors faced two choices: jail
or the equivalent of a Chapter 7 with very onerous provisions.)

(Now if they could only have taken that view when they enacted the anti-spam
legislation!)

J.

Howard Goldstein
12-27-2003, 03:12 AM
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:25:37 GMT, John <spambegone@127.0.0.1> wrote:
: the laws were like back then. (Basically, debtors faced two choices: jail
: or the equivalent of a Chapter 7 with very onerous provisions.)
:
: (Now if they could only have taken that view when they enacted the anti-spam
: legislation!)

Jail would be inappropriately lenient. Spamming calls for drawing and
quartering or a hanging, recipient's choice.

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