Dang!

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml

Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)
wrote:
Dang!http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtmlCan't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.

The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to the
article, which doesn't mention adoption.

Julia
-------------------------A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend willbe sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"-----Unknown

>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.comDate: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com>On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)wrote:Dang!http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtmlCan't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to thearticle, which doesn't mention adoption.Julia

I know! LOL


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

On 02 Jan 2004 21:58:30 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) writes:

On 1/2/04 2:54 PM MSTime, Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.com writes:Message-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com>On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)wrote:Dang!http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtmlCan't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to thearticle, which doesn't mention adoption.JuliaI know! LOL

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/printer_1148.shtml

Iranian.ws

Iran News

Bam's children, Have You Ever Thought About Adoption?

By [no author given]
Dec 31, 2003, 21:53

A baby girl born Friday after the earthquake in Iran will never see
her mother. She died moments after the delivery from injuries she
suffered in the quake. The baby's father also died.

The earthquake in Bam (bam) has left at least 15-hundred children
orphaned. Most of the kids are being taken care of at various child
care centers.

One boy, unaware of his parents' deaths, says his mom and dad are
back in Bam and that they're coming to see him soon.

The head of Iran's State Welfare Organization says a few of the
children being looked after have parents hospitalized in various parts
of the country, but most of them do not.

At least 28-thousand people died in the quake. Another 12-thousand
were hurt.

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Seems to me the unnamed author is attempting to connect the dots,
so to speak. These children mentioned in the article, quite logically
will NEED families...ergo, "Have You Ever Thought About Adoption?"

pb...

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.comDate: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com>On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)wrote:Dang!http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtmlCan't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to thearticle, which doesn't mention adoption.Julia I know! LOL

I think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoption
because there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquake
in Iran. At least that was my take on the article. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 6:31 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401040531.3f894679@posting.google.com>lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in messagenews:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.comDate: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com>On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)wrote:>Dang!>>http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml>>Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to thearticle, which doesn't mention adoption.Julia I know! LOLI think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoptionbecause there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquakein Iran. At least that was my take on the article.

Where? Other than the headline, the article mentions nothing about adoption.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

"Debbie" <aspensky@knology.net> wrote in message
news:4b23522a.0401040531.3f894679@posting.google.c om... lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message
news:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.comDate: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com>On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)wrote:>Dang!>>http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml>>Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez.The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to thearticle, which doesn't mention adoption.Julia I know! LOL I think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoption because there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquake in Iran. At least that was my take on the article. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true
friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

"Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran.

Marley

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040104093825.26046.00002477@mb-m06.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 6:31 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401040531.3f894679@posting.google.com>lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in messagenews:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>... >Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The Day >From: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.com >Date: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard Time >Message-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com> > >On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) >wrote: > >>Dang! >> >>http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml >> >>Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez. > >The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to the >article, which doesn't mention adoption. > >Julia > I know! LOLI think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoptionbecause there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquakein Iran. At least that was my take on the article. Where? Other than the headline, the article mentions nothing about adoption. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

"The earthquake in Bam (bam) has left at least 15-hundred children
orphaned. Most of the kids are being taken care of at various child
care centers."

I guess the above implied to me that they were looking for good
adoptive homes for the orphaned children. Perhaps not well written,
but I guess I got the gist in that the question in the title of the
article pertained to the article itself.

"Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<IYVJb.279122$Ec1.9582936@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>... "Debbie" <aspensky@knology.net> wrote in message news:4b23522a.0401040531.3f894679@posting.google.c om... lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>... >Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The Day >From: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.com >Date: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard Time >Message-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com> > >On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) >wrote: > >>Dang! >> >>http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml >> >>Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez. > >The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to the >article, which doesn't mention adoption. > >Julia > I know! LOL I think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoption because there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquake in Iran. At least that was my take on the article. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown "Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran. Marley

Why not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know.

>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 11:16 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401041016.6a85a02c@posting.google.com>
"Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran. MarleyWhy not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know.

Because of the Muslim culture, I believe. They don't proscribe to adoption.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)Date: 1/4/04 1:20 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <20040104152055.09719.00002150@mb-m17.aol.com>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 11:16 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401041016.6a85a02c@posting.google.com> "Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran. MarleyWhy not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know.Because of the Muslim culture, I believe. They don't proscribe to adoption.

Whoops that didn't come out right. I mean, that they don't believe in adoption
as we know it.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040104152055.09719.00002150@mb-m17.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 11:16 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401041016.6a85a02c@posting.google.com> "Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran. MarleyWhy not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know. Because of the Muslim culture, I believe. They don't proscribe to adoption. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

I am hoping this is one of those times where can't tell what a
person's vocal inflection would be if he/she was saying what they were
writing. It rings of annoyance, but I have a cold and it is late so I
am going to go with the matter of fact approach.

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040104152338.09719.00002151@mb-m17.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn)Date: 1/4/04 1:20 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <20040104152055.09719.00002150@mb-m17.aol.com>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 11:16 AM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401041016.6a85a02c@posting.google.com>> "Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran.>> MarleyWhy not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know.Because of the Muslim culture, I believe. They don't proscribe to adoption. Whoops that didn't come out right. I mean, that they don't believe in adoption as we know it. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

What part of it didn't come out right?

"Debbie" <aspensky@knology.net> wrote in message
news:4b23522a.0401041016.6a85a02c@posting.google.c om... "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<IYVJb.279122$Ec1.9582936@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>... "Debbie" <aspensky@knology.net> wrote in message news:4b23522a.0401040531.3f894679@posting.google.c om... lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040102165830.26181.00001943@mb-m15.aol.com>... > >Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The Day > >From: Julia jurol@nospam.hotmail.com > >Date: 1/2/04 2:54 PM Mountain Standard Time > >Message-id: <21qbvv0ff6osfk23rm4a0qvc9v7pq4hdc0@4ax.com> > > > >On 02 Jan 2004 14:45:22 GMT, lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) > >wrote: > > > >>Dang! > >> > >>http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_1148.shtml > >> > >>Can't cut and paste the article here, but.....geez. > > > >The headline confuses me. It has no relevance whatsoever to the > >article, which doesn't mention adoption. > > > >Julia > > > > I know! LOL I think it is relevant. It is asking if anyone has considered adoption because there are thousands of orphaned children due to the earthquake in Iran. At least that was my take on the article. > > > ------------------------- > A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will > be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" > -----Unknown "Adoption" doesn't exactly fly in Iran. Marley Why not? Not being purposely obtuse, I really don't know.

"Adoption" as it is practiced in the West is not acceptable under Islam.
Kefala--which means
sponsorship-- is the accepted procedure. It could be compared to foster
care or perhaps guardianship practices in the US. (1) in kafala blood
relationships and lineage and identity are not hidden--identity is tied to
lineage unlike the US custom of identity erasure. (2) Under kafala
"adoptees" have no automatic right to inerhtance--inheritance would need to
be specifically written into a will. There are also certain qualifications
regarding the marriage between members of a family where kefala is
practiced.
(3) the "son" etc. are not legal terms, only a phrase used in a
general sense.

Kefala is not recognized by the US State Department/INS as a form of
relationship and in the last few years has caused hardship on Muslims in the
US seeking to remove relatives and other children from orphanages in
Afghanistan (for example) and bringing them to the US. I guess if Mulsims
just behaved themselves and converted to Christianity they could adopt their
underage realatives and get them over here.

After the Russian destruction of Chechnya the child lust crowd were beating
down the doors of the country to bring Chechen children to the US. While
perhaps well intentioned (in some cases) the Chechens (what was left of
them), who are a clan and
lineage based society were not amused. I can guarantee you that if some
entitled USians would have even been allowed to step foot in Chechnya they'd
have had their hands cut off and sent packing.

So, the word "Adoption" in
the rude headline of the day--since it appeared in an English-language
Arabic newspaper, to me, is simply an incitement for more of
this crap. Or maybe it was a bad translation.

Marley

>Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 10:17 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401042117.53250cba@posting.google.com>
I am hoping this is one of those times where can't tell what aperson's vocal inflection would be if he/she was saying what they werewriting. It rings of annoyance, but I have a cold and it is late so Iam going to go with the matter of fact approach.

Oh nororororo. Not annoyance. LOL We had a thread awhile ago about adoption
in Islam and I have a cold too so I didn't get around to googling yesterday.
Marley said it better than I could in her explanation.

I just thought it weird that an Iranian newspaper (even though it is in
English) would have a headline about adoption, yet nothing in the body of the
story.


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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

lilmtncbn@aol.comnospam (LilMtnCbn) wrote in message news:<20040105082511.11386.00002354@mb-m11.aol.com>...Subject: Re: Rude Headline Of The DayFrom: aspensky@knology.net (Debbie)Date: 1/4/04 10:17 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id: <4b23522a.0401042117.53250cba@posting.google.com>I am hoping this is one of those times where can't tell what aperson's vocal inflection would be if he/she was saying what they werewriting. It rings of annoyance, but I have a cold and it is late so Iam going to go with the matter of fact approach. Oh nororororo. Not annoyance. LOL We had a thread awhile ago about adoption in Islam and I have a cold too so I didn't get around to googling yesterday. Marley said it better than I could in her explanation. I just thought it weird that an Iranian newspaper (even though it is in English) would have a headline about adoption, yet nothing in the body of the story. ------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown

Got it, thanks :) Hope your cold gets better. We have a regular
infirmary going on in our house as we are all 3 sick.