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notagoodthingusernames
05-08-2006, 09:20 PM
I have just been schooled in the fine art of a woman getting anything she wants. I watched a perfectly good Forman that had a 3-4 person crew, lose his job because he was old school and told the woman on his crew that she needed to started showing up to work on time and start calling in if she was not coming to work, and guess what?! It pissed her off.
After that it only took a couple of her good buddies to help her lie her way to him losing his job. He is torn up. He would never hurt anyone, yet he has been dealt a blow that is hurtful.
HR will not tell him anything. Won't tell him what he supposedly done to her or any of the liars. He was fired for (sexual harrassment) and has never even touched the person. Just pissed them off, and they gathered like a pack of wolves.
So I would have to say to anyone, BEWARE of the wolf packs that can lie their way into an HR office and he said/she said and TAKE YOUR JOB!
It can happen, I just witnessed it.

Pattymd
05-09-2006, 04:16 AM
And did you have a question? This is not a chat room.

Beth3
05-09-2006, 05:48 AM
I have just been schooled in the fine art of a woman getting anything she wants. Damn. I must have been absent from "woman class" the day they taught that. ;)

Pattymd
05-09-2006, 07:19 AM
Man, Beth, me too. *sigh*

notagoodthingusernames
05-09-2006, 07:47 AM
Where does this guy go now?
Does he have an attorney contact the company he was working for and request his documents? As to why he was fired?
Should he request that the reason be reduced to Job elimination and tell them that he will pursue with an attorney?

Pattymd
05-09-2006, 07:50 AM
No legal violation exists, although, if we're hearing the entire story here, it's very unfair.

There is no legal obligation for the employer to give the accused any report of the investigation. He can try to ask them to change his records for the termination reason, but they aren't required to, and no civil case will make them do it.

ElleMD
05-09-2006, 08:09 AM
This person's only recourse may be a civil suit againt the accuser but be farewarned, that is not going to be an easy thing to pursue.

ElleMD
05-09-2006, 08:38 AM
This person's only recourse may be a civil suit againt the accuser but be farewarned, that is not going to be an easy thing to pursue.

sdimonz
05-09-2006, 11:40 AM
My son was just fired for sexual harrassment...a co worker accused him and he was given no warning, no training or retraining and he was not given the opportunity to defend himself. The company is (deleted by moderator) and it seems that everyone on staff talk and say things that have a sexual content...in fun woman and men, but if the women want to say sexual harrassment they are believed and the men get fired...another guy was fired recently also. Is there any recourse for him to fight this? Are there any lawyers that are helping the accused? Thanks for any and all information.

cbg
05-09-2006, 11:58 AM
Your e-mail address has been deleted for your own safety. Being targeted by spammers is only the beginning of the things that could happen. It is also better for both you and your son that you not name the company on a public board.

notagoodthingusernames
05-09-2006, 04:42 PM
Apparantly there isn't anyone who can fight an accusation like Sexual Harrassment. Everyone is scared and the first thing that any HR does is fire the person that the victim wants fired and then everything is rosey again. This is the spookiest thing I have ever had to see, and I couldn't believe it when I did see it.
It happens, and my friend was told by a very big lawyer that it happens every day.

Pattymd
05-10-2006, 05:10 AM
That's not even remotely true. Any decent HR professional does NOT fire the accused without a complete investigation. Under the law, the employer's only legal responsibility is to ensure that the harrassment, if it is in fact occurring, stops. Sometimes the actions are so grievious as to require firing; sometimes they aren't.

Give us a little credit. We aren't unfeeling people. But we are professionals, following the law and protecting the company.

Beth3
05-10-2006, 06:21 AM
Apparantly there isn't anyone who can fight an accusation like Sexual Harrassment. Everyone is scared and the first thing that any HR does is fire the person that the victim wants fired and then everything is rosey again. This is the spookiest thing I have ever had to see, and I couldn't believe it when I did see it.
It happens, and my friend was told by a very big lawyer that it happens every day.

Whoa. I'll have you know that just last year and after a multi-week investigation of SH accusations brought by two women against their supervisor, I fired the two women because the investigation showed not only that the accusations were false, it also showed that they fabricated them because he'd disciplined them for their lousy attendance. Both women went to the State and alleged retaliatory discharge after claiming SH and the State ultimately dismissed both claims as completely meritless.

Sure, it would have been far easier and considerably cheaper to fire the supervisor and just be done with it. Instead, I probably spent 100 hours investigating and dealing with the situation and another $5,000 on outside legal counsel. So don't tar all employers and HR professionals with the same brush.

ElleMD
05-10-2006, 09:51 AM
To answer your question, no it is not illegal and there is no recourse if he is guilty of the inappropriate comments. Just because others do it doesn't make it right. "Two wrongs don't make a right"... "If all your friends jumped off a bridge would you?"... and all those other things he probably heard a million times growing up still apply. The consequences are just a little bit more significant now than being sent to his room. The other guy being fired recently for the same thing is kind of a tip off that maybe it is time to clean up the language. Obviously his employer has had enough and is no longer willing to tolerate such behavior, nor should they.

aswas17814
05-10-2006, 03:16 PM
I am not an attorney but have recently had a false accusation incident at my company. Accused individuals can successfully defend themsleves but must find an attorney who will take the case, shred the accusers life history and be prepared for the accusers attorney to do the same to them.

In our case, the accused hired a lawyer and initiated a lawsuit against the accuser. I understand that it was settled with a small settlement to cover attorney fees and an acknowledgement that the accusations were false. I understand that both attorney's were very diligent in digging up past personal stuff that was very hurtful. I also need to point out that there was other issues concerning the accuser that helped the accused, but it was still tough. In our case, even after the accused won, EEOC sent a "request" for his termination for retaliation. The company denied the request.

Blue22
06-05-2006, 03:35 AM
If he is that tore up he should sue for slander, deflamation it sounds like a assult on his charecter if it is the way your saying tell him to look into tort law

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