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November 30. 2003 6:01AM
State statistics show Baby Jane not alone
About 30 infants were abandoned in Alachua County between July 1, 2001 and
June 30, 2002.

By KATHY CIOTOLA
Sun Staff Writer

he infant dubbed "Baby Jane" who was found dead in an Alachua County pond in
August was the only baby in recent years to be found dead and abandoned here,
county authorities say.

But she wasn't the only one abandoned. About 30 children ages 2 or younger were
abandoned in Alachua County between July 1, 2001 and June 30, 2002, said Tom
Barnes, Department of Children & Families spokesman.

Statewide, 1,661 infants or toddlers were abandoned.

In fact, abandoned babies are so common, the national TV show "America's Most
Wanted" decided not to air Baby Jane's case, said Alachua County Sheriff's Sgt.
Keith Faulk. Faulk asked the show's producers to look into it, but they told
him there were too many similar cases nationwide.

Authorities haven't identified a suspect in that case.

But the Baby Jane case is unusual because most abandoned children aren't left
in ponds, Dumpsters or other places that often make the news, Barnes said.

They also don't usually end up dead, he added.

Most parents who abandon their babies or children leave them with a neighbor or
relative, Barnes said. They tell them they'll be back and then they never show
up.

Many times, the parent is on a substance binge when they abandon their child,
Barnes said.

"A parent becomes so overwhelmed by the addiction that they lose track of
what's most important around them," he said.

Some babies have also been abandoned at stores, and one was even left outside
on the lawn of a Palatka nursing home recently, Barnes said.

A safe haven
But parents don't have to take such desperate measures. The Florida Safe Haven
law, passed in 2001, allows a parent to leave an unwanted baby at a hospital or
fire station without notice within three days of giving birth. The parent will
not be charged with abandonment.

In North Florida, two babies have been given up since the Safe Haven law was
enacted.

There is a Safe Haven law of sorts in 45 states, said Tim Jaccard, author of
the original Safe Haven bill passed in New York State in 2000. Jaccard, a
medical officer at the Nassau County Police Department in New York, said he got
tired of finding so many newborns dead.

Women who kill their newborns violently - such as drowning them in toilets,
smothering them in plastic bags or throwing them in trash cans - are often
still teenagers, usually between 16 and 18, said Jaccard, who now heads the
Children of Hope Foundation, a nonprofit organization that strives to save
infants through crisis counseling and education.

The teens often hide the pregnancy and have them at home or in their dorm room.
Almost all - 95 percent - of babies killed on the first day of their life were
not born in a hospital, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

The highest rate of neonaticides - killing a baby three days old or less -
happen in February or March. Events nine months earlier, such as senior prom or
school vacation appears to be a factor in these unwanted pregnancies, Jaccard
said.

But Jaccard said mothers between ages 12 and 42 have also called crisis lines.

Many already have a child, are single, and pregnant again by a different man,
he said. They may have a history of depression or suffer from postpartum
psychosis.

Sometimes when a woman calls a crisis line, counselors can work with her to
either give the baby to a family member or give it up for adoption. But 15
birth mothers gave their babies up anonymously in New York since the law was
passed in 2000. Crisis lines in New York have received more than 2,500 calls
since 2000.

"Last year was the first year in 11 years we didn't have neonaticide," Jaccard
said, adding that a few years ago, 14 babies were killed in less than a year in
New York.

Anyone in Florida who is afraid they might hurt their baby or is pregnant and
in crisis can call 877-767-BABY (877-767-2229).

Kathy Ciotola can be reached at (352) 338-3109 or ciotolk@gvillesun.com.

>Anyone in Florida who is afraid they might hurt their baby or is pregnant andin crisis can call 877-767-BABY (877-767-2229).

Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900

http://birthright.org

jbj4712@aol.com (Jbj4712) wrote in message news:<20031202193517.01860.00000038@mb-m18.aol.com>...Anyone in Florida who is afraid they might hurt their baby or is pregnant andin crisis can call 877-767-BABY (877-767-2229). Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org

Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring. I know
people who learned this the hard way, donating their time to try to
stop abortions, only to learn that the people they convinced not to
abort, ended up being victimized by the coercive adoption of their
babies, which they had decided they wanted to have, keep and raise
themselves. The guilt these people had to endure, when they learned
that their good deed was assisting evil people to kidnap more babies
and destroy more lives is horrible. The people in charge of
birthright, don't give a hoot about saving babies, all they want is
the ability to sell them.

In article <eb5515c9.0312041708.78a3820a@posting.google.com>,
mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote:

Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring.


What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of
Kansas!





steve

"Steve White" <steve@spam.me.never> wrote in message
news:steve-089BBF.23005804122003@netnews.attbi.com... In article <eb5515c9.0312041708.78a3820a@posting.google.com>, mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote: Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring. What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of Kansas! steve

I'd say that's a bit much, too, but they definitely are into coercive
pregnancy.

Marley

Steve White <steve@spam.me.never> wrote in message news:<steve-089BBF.23005804122003@netnews.attbi.com>... In article <eb5515c9.0312041708.78a3820a@posting.google.com>, mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote: Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring. What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of Kansas!
When is truth slander?

Di

steve

Hard to admit I agree with Melinda here about Birthright:

<snip>
I knowpeople who learned this the hard way, donating their time to try tostop abortions, only to learn that the people they convinced not toabort, ended up being victimized by the coercive adoption of theirbabies,>>

<snip>

Here is the typical line of logic. Talk the woman who seeks an abortion into
carrying to term. Never forget that a woman who sought an abortion will be
unfit to parent because, obviously, she did not want the child in the first
place. First priority: Give the child born. Second priority: Get the child
away from the woman who did not want it in the first place and into the waiting
arms of adoptive parents.....married and Christian, natch.


P2P

> What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of Kansas! steve

It's not slander or defamation, when it's true and this is very much
true and I know many witnesses to these acts of coercion. People who
use to volunteer their time to help birthright, until they learned
what they were really after.

in article eb5515c9.0312041708.78a3820a@posting.google.com, Melinda Walmsley
at mhjtw@hotmail.com wrote on 5/12/03 1:08 am:
jbj4712@aol.com (Jbj4712) wrote in message news:<20031202193517.01860.00000038@mb-m18.aol.com>... Anyone in Florida who is afraid they might hurt their baby or is pregnant and in crisis can call 877-767-BABY (877-767-2229). Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring. I know people who learned this the hard way, donating their time to try to stop abortions, only to learn that the people they convinced not to abort, ended up being victimized by the coercive adoption of their babies, which they had decided they wanted to have, keep and raise themselves. The guilt these people had to endure, when they learned that their good deed was assisting evil people to kidnap more babies and destroy more lives is horrible. The people in charge of birthright, don't give a hoot about saving babies, all they want is the ability to sell them.


No wonder there was a lot of confusion in the UK

< quote from http://www.spuc.org.uk/charities/part1.htm >

Birthright

(now renamed "WELLBEING")

Member organisation of AMRC.

Birthright funds the Harris Birthright Centre for Fetal Medicine which has
pioneered the use of Chorionic Villus Sampling and Ultrasound to detect
disability pre-natally in order to facilitate abortion. Princess Diana,
Patron of Birthright, said (Woman, 1/2/86) "Much of the (Harris) Centre's
work is aimed at early detection of abnormalityŠ" Doctors in general offer
no "treatment" but abortion when a disability is detected. An article in
Woman (18/6/91) entitled "Why Babies have such a Testing Time" by Vivienne
Parry of Birthright explained the various screening tests available, saying
"there's no right or wrong about ante-natal testing - only what's right for
youŠ". In Today (4/5/91) Birthright blamed bad housing and environmental
problems on world population trends, and said "make love, not children, and
give the earth a chance". In 1993 pro-abortion ex-MP Rosie Barnes was
appointed as Director, and "Birthright" was subsequently renamed
"Wellbeing", after Mrs Barnes found that people mistakenly thought that
"Birthright" was against abortion.

<end quote>

Robin

Re: Pregnant? Stunned? Call Birthright.

Group: alt.adoption Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 1:30pm (MST-1) From:
mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda*Walmsley)
What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of
Kansas!
steve
It's not slander or defamation, when it's true and this is very much
true and I know many witnesses to these acts of coercion. People who use
to volunteer their time to help birthright, until they learned what they
were really after.


It IS slander and it IS defamation. I personally know someone who has
volunteered and ran the birthright in her town for over twenty five
years. Not once, Not EVER has she been involved in coercion. They take
donations of clothes and supplies for the woman or young girls. They
offer them help and options. They put just as much emphasis on the
option of parenting as they do adoption. It is entirely the womans
choice. They don't call the resepshunist and ask if they know any PAPS.
As usual you are full of ****. Melinda
Windforest

In article <steve-089BBF.23005804122003@netnews.attbi.com>, Steve White
<steve@spam.me.never> writes:
In article <eb5515c9.0312041708.78a3820a@posting.google.com>, mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote: Anywhere in USA or Canada they can phone Birthright at 1-800-550-4900 http://birthright.org Birthright is nothing but a FRONT for a baby stealing ring.What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley ofKansas!steve

Like that ever stopped her?

KL

On 5 Dec 2003 13:30:47 -0800, mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) writes:
What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of Kansas! steveIt's not slander or defamation, when it's true and this is very muchtrue and I know many witnesses to these acts of coercion. People whoused to volunteer their time to help birthright, until they learnedwhat they were really after.

Don't sweat it, Melinda...Little Stevie Wonder has yet to be unmarried
and pregnant. And, as I mentioned earlier, I get very uncomfortable when
I hear *any* organization - no matter their mission statement - mention
the words *crisis* pregnancy.

pb...


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president,
or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not
only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

badaii@webtv.net (Windforest) wrote in message news:<24962-3FD177EB-169@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net>... Re: Pregnant? Stunned? Call Birthright. Group: alt.adoption Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 1:30pm (MST-1) From: mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) What a nice bit of slander and defamation, Ms. Melinda Walmsley of Kansas! steve It's not slander or defamation, when it's true and this is very much true and I know many witnesses to these acts of coercion. People who use to volunteer their time to help birthright, until they learned what they were really after. It IS slander and it IS defamation. I personally know someone who has volunteered and ran the birthright in her town for over twenty five years. Not once, Not EVER has she been involved in coercion. They take donations of clothes and supplies for the woman or young girls. They offer them help and options. They put just as much emphasis on the option of parenting as they do adoption. It is entirely the womans choice. They don't call the resepshunist and ask if they know any PAPS. As usual you are full of ****. Melinda Windforest




All I can say with any certainty is that Birthright enabled me to
survive, and helped me to gain the shelter and medical care I needed
as an abandoned and pregnant seventeen year old. The rest was
ultimately up to me.


SoulWhisper

In article <c403a139.0312080537.7971c410@posting.google.com>,
soulwhisper7@aol.com (soulwhisper) wrote:

All I can say with any certainty is that Birthright enabled me to survive, and helped me to gain the shelter and medical care I needed as an abandoned and pregnant seventeen year old. The rest was ultimately up to me.


I'm glad they were there to help you, and glad that you made it.




steve

It's not the volunteers who are the problem. THey genuinely believe
they are doing something GOOD. It's the head kidnappers who have side
line adoption (baby selling) businesses, who use birthright, and use
the innocent volunteers to line their pockets with millions.

Melinda





It's not slander or defamation, when it's true and this is very much true and I know many witnesses to these acts of coercion. People who use to volunteer their time to help birthright, until they learned what they were really after. It IS slander and it IS defamation. I personally know someone who has volunteered and ran the birthright in her town for over twenty five years. Not once, Not EVER has she been involved in coercion. They take donations of clothes and supplies for the woman or young girls. They offer them help and options. They put just as much emphasis on the option of parenting as they do adoption. It is entirely the womans choice. They don't call the resepshunist and ask if they know any PAPS. As usual you are full of ****. Melinda Windforest

In article <eb5515c9.0312121359.51403a3c@posting.google.com>,
mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote:
It's not the volunteers who are the problem. THey genuinely believe they are doing something GOOD. It's the head kidnappers who have side line adoption (baby selling) businesses, who use birthright, and use the innocent volunteers to line their pockets with millions.


And you know this how?

Please be expansive, and make sure to include the recepshunist. I could
use a good laugh.





steve

"Steve White" <steve@spam.me.never> wrote in message
news:steve-654EC7.21404712122003@netnews.attbi.com... In article <eb5515c9.0312121359.51403a3c@posting.google.com>, mhjtw@hotmail.com (Melinda Walmsley) wrote: It's not the volunteers who are the problem. THey genuinely believe they are doing something GOOD. It's the head kidnappers who have side line adoption (baby selling) businesses, who use birthright, and use the innocent volunteers to line their pockets with millions. And you know this how? Please be expansive, and make sure to include the recepshunist. I could use a good laugh. steve

CPICS are notorious fronts for baby pushing. Drop by one--they'll probably
want to give you an HIV test and testimony, too. Who do you think the
recpients of the federally funded NCFA Infant Adoption Awareness program?

Marley

Marley

Melinda.. I hope all is well with you, Melinda's grand baby was stolen due to adoption fraud. I am adopted and believe in open records and the rights to know.
http://www.givenright.com

>Subject: Re: Pregnant? Stunned? Call Birthright.From: "givenright" givenright@msn.comDate: 1/1/04 8:20 PM Mountain Standard TimeMessage-id:<5a1fc128abb2dcac204328cbd9511cb5@localhost.talkabo utparenting.com>Melinda.. I hope all is well with you, Melinda's grand baby was stolen due toadoption fraud.

No she wasn't.

I am adopted and believe in open records and the rights toknow.http://www.givenright.com




-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown

>Melinda's grand baby was stolen due to adoption fraud.>>

I don't think so, givenright. Seems to me the baby was voluntarily placed for
adoption by Melinda's daughter at Melinda's strong, ongoing urging. The
necessary relinquishment papers were signed by the daughter on the day of the
child's birth and the infant was placed into custody of waiting adoptive
parents. In Kansas, the scene of the drama, once relinquishment papers are
signed they cannot be revoked. This is true in a number of states. Even though
serious regret set in within days of the placement, Melinda and her daughter
had no legal recourse. It is a terrible situation, but it does not constitute
child theft.


P2P