Lady Di
11-23-2003, 12:34 PM
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Testing
From: "Gerry Gaulden" <scorpio117@cableone.net>
2. need help oregon
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
3. 8/15/65 female adoptee- S. Miami needs help
From: "ladychelseafan8" <Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com>
4. Re: REPOSTING INFORMATION
From: "Nana Jones" <soonergrannie@adelphia.net>
5. Posting AGAIN !
From: "Cyn-Thia Brown-Williams" <1hmfic@gci.net>
6. whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
7. need help in oregon
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
8. Re: need help in oregon
From: connierhea@aol.com
9. NAR Secret Santa Group on Ebay?
From: "ladygentleheart1025" <ladygentleheart1025@yahoo.com>
10. RE: need help in oregon
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
11. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
12. repost
From: baby62168@aol.com
13. I want to apologize for my last post
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
14. Re: need help in oregon
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
15. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
16. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
17. File - How to use the registry posts
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
18. File - All Members Please Read
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
19. File - A Important Reminder to All
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
20. File - E-mail attatchments
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
21. File - Before Hiring A Paid Searcher or CI
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
22. File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
23. File - Yahoo Instructions
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
24. Need Phone# look-up
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
25. Re: repost
From: Karen Watson <kyoungquist2003@yahoo.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:29:15 -0600
From: "Gerry Gaulden" <scorpio117@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Testing
LOUD AND CLEAR HERE ON THIS END. LOVE MAMMA GG:O)----- Original
Message -----
From: eugene carpenter
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Testing
Where is everyone??? If you get this email please let
me know.
Thank You
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:47 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: need help oregon
Is there any one out there that has a DMV list for oregon . I need
info for 1985 through 1997. please e-mail me at jnkjnky@yahoo.com
thank you sarah
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:09:57 -0000
From: "ladychelseafan8" <Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com>
Subject: 8/15/65 female adoptee- S. Miami needs help
I once read that records for South Miami Hospital were available to
peruse at a warehouse on a major route in Florida. Unfortunately, I
failed to bookmark the site. Can anyone confirm or deny this for
me? I plan to visit there at some point this winter and would love
to be able to search this way, if it is at all possible.
Please mail me at Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com
Thank you!
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:38:48 -0700
From: "Nana Jones" <soonergrannie@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: REPOSTING INFORMATION
Gail, I was adopted from Deaconess Hosp in 1947. I have been
searching
for over 15 years and still searching. Request information from
Deaconess (non-id) and also request nursery records. Does your
husband have
his original birth certificate? When you request records, they like
to
have the name given at birth (if known) as well as the current name.
Also he needs to request and complete a waiver in case his birth
mother
is also searching and contacts Deaconess, they can notify both
parties.
I also wrote Deaconess with a list of about 20 questions, some they
answered, some they didn't. You can request what you want in hopes
that
some little bit of info might give you a break on the search. If you
know where the birthmother might have been born, write the county and
request birth indexes for around the time she might have been born. I
feel that my birthmother's name (on OBC) is an alias; Deaconess told
me
once is was an alias, the next time I asked, they told me it wasn't.
There are so many avenues to go but start with Deaconess, especially
if
you have the original BC. Hope this helps a little bit. God Bless
you in your search. Nana
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From: jrmom0408
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:23 PM
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] REPOSTING INFORMATION
I am searching for husband's birthmother. He was born 12/13/64 at
Deaconess Hospital in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma at 5:52AM. The name
we have for birthmother is Paula Sinclair. However, unsure if this
is her true name or an alias. If anyone has any information or can
be of any help, please e-mail me. Thank You!!!
Gail Davis
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:37 -0000
From: "Cyn-Thia Brown-Williams" <1hmfic@gci.net>
Subject: Posting AGAIN !
Greetings to all ! F-ISO-Bmom and Sibs (5 of them)
Seattle,Washington,7/16/60. I was born in the Swedish Hospital (all
records prior to 1967 were destroyed)to Billie F. Richards, who was
23 at the time. She came from Spokane to have me. The Adoption was
done through Associated Lutheran Welfare (no longer in business)and
finalized in April 1961. Billie's fathers' name was George and was
part Indian (Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978 didn't work for me). I
weighed 10lbs and 6ozs and have already hired a CI and found.
Unfortunately Billie wishes no contact (it's been 2 1/2 months)and
all I can do is wait for her to change her mind and/or show up on the
SSDI to start searching for my Sibs. There are so many unanswered
questions that eat away at me. My medical history is only the
beginning ! What about my tribal heritage ? what about my
sibs...shouldn't they have the right to decide for themselves ? (I
already know the answer to these, it just helps to vent !) Billie
lost her husband in 1994. If someone has access to marriage records
that could link Billie F. Richards to whoever she married (he passed
away in 1994) then maybe I could find out where she is ! Anyone ?!
Thanks, as usual, for letting me get this off my chest ! Cyn in AK
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:37:46 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:24:54 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: need help in oregon
I posted that I need help with a DMV list for state of oregon .
I said that I was looking for the years of 1985 through 1997.
I made a mistake I need 1985 to 1987. My son would have been sixteen
through eighteen. I know he was adopted in oregon , so that would be
his first drivers lisence. Thank you Sarah
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:18 EST
From: connierhea@aol.com
Subject: Re: need help in oregon
hi. has anyone from oregon responded? if not, send me your info and
i'll
see what I can help out with.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:39:35 -0000
From: "ladygentleheart1025" <ladygentleheart1025@yahoo.com>
Subject: NAR Secret Santa Group on Ebay?
Anyone interested in starting a Secret Santa group for ALIA members
on Ebay? I was reading about them tonight and thought it might help
brighten up someones searching day? Moderators? What 'cha think?
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:26 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: need help in oregon
Hi, You know Oregon is open. Have you contacted the state? Joan
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From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:25 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] need help in oregon
I posted that I need help with a DMV list for state of oregon .
I said that I was looking for the years of 1985 through 1997.
I made a mistake I need 1985 to 1987. My son would have been sixteen
through eighteen. I know he was adopted in oregon , so that would be
his first drivers lisence. Thank you Sarah
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:30 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
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From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:40:19 EST
From: baby62168@aol.com
Subject: repost
Hi. I have been searching for 7 years. I have very little information
to go
on though I have followed all of the traditional search steps. My
biggest
reason for searching is that I really need my medical history. My 11
year old
daughter is chronically ill and it may shed some light on some of her
problems.
She has Chronic Lyme disease, fibromyalgia, CFIDS, heart and lung
problems, and
hypoglycemia. She spent six months in a wheelchair last year due to
these
conditions. Now they have found problems with her spine for which they
have no
answers.
I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to find but that is my
first
priority.
I was born 6/21/68 in Philadelphia, PA. I was born at approximately
1:30am
and was 8lbs 1 oz. My adoption was handled privately by attorney
Marvin
Lundy. I
was adopted by a Jewish couple from NJ. My a-mom was a school teacher.
My
non-id states that my b-mother was single and 24 at the time of my
birth. My
b-grandfather died at age 59. My b-father was not listed. My a-mom
remembers
something being mentioned about Bristol. Possibly that my b-mom was
from there? I
was dropped off to my a-parents in the back parking lot of a hotel. My
a-parents were asked to pay cash in advance of my delivery. My a-mom
was told that my
b-father was a truck driver and that my b-mom's family did not approve
of the
relationship. How much of what she was told being true,. I do not
know.
My
b-mother's dob and social security number was not in the
paperwork...only that
she was 24. When the court searcher sent to the last known address,
the
letter
was returned. She tried to obtain her social security info and was
told
that
my b-mom was not in their records as having worked for the last 3
years and
therefore couldn't be traced that way.
I have registered with all of the pa registies as well as the wwr and
isrr. I
have a copy of my adoption decree (which simply states that my
adoption
was
finalized on 7/25/69). I have posted anyplace I have found on the net.
I cannot
afford to hire a searcher. I have very little time to put into
searching as
caring for my daughter takes so much of my time. Anyone that has any
further
ideas, please share them. I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks
Fayth
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:30:18 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: I want to apologize for my last post
I didn't mean to rant at the system. Next time I will look at myself
in the mirror , and vent away. Laugh and the world laughs with you ,
cry and you cry alone. thanks for understanding. I do want to share
to adoptee's born in Oregon , adoptee's can get their original birth
certificates , for 15.00 . thanks sarah
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:19:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: need help in oregon
Thank you for responding , what I wanted to find is males that where
born 7/11/69 that got a drivers license in oregon . My son was born
and
adopted in oregon. I need names so that I can call them. Thank you
Sarah
connierhea@aol.com wrote:hi. has anyone from oregon responded? if
not, send me your info and i'll
see what I can help out with.
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:15:1 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hi Joan , yes I have contacted oregon on a regular basis , my other
two
sons have'nt done any thing , didn't know they could. I even wrote my
son a letter , gave medical info , and instructed my other children to
give Michael his stuff things and pictures from birth to 3 years old.
If I would have known what I'm learning now , I would have never lost
my
son. I also am lurning that the state was not telling me the truth.
thanks for your respond. Sarah
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Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:38:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Joan , You know what is weird is that , oregon passed measure 58 , I
think 1997 , I sat back thinking my son would contact me. I just got
started last year searching him again. My biggest fear was that he
wouldn't
want to see me , maybe he wasn't told he was adopted , and my worst
thought he is dead. I was going to adopt my three boys to protect them
from their abusive father , but I left their father , and tried to get
Michael back , but I was told I couldn't. Oregon being an oen state is
for
adoptee's only , what I mean is that the adoptee can get his original
birth certificate , at a cost of 15.00, takes about six weeks. but
being
the birth mom , I would have to give them 400.00 , and they would try
to find him , and if he didn't want contact , I get nothing , no name
,
all I would know is that he was alive. thanks Sarah
joan <joan1b@cox.net> wrote:
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Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 17
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - How to use the registry posts
When you receive search posts from the various registries
redistributed
from this address you must reply to the email in the body of the post,
and not to me. I cannot give you any information on any of the
searches
redistributed by me. The email address can be found where it says:
EMAIL= If there is no email address there, you have to remember to go
to:
http://adoptionsearching.com/ Click on SEARCH located in the upper
left
hand corner of the site, enter the DATE OF BIRTH, and click on the
appropriate HOA, WWR # (or whatever the prefix is) to send an email to
the
person searching. This is called Confidental Registrant. I cannot give
you any information regarding any registrant. I also cannot control
any
replies or lack thereof, that you receive from any registrant, be they
Confidential or not. I only redistribute them to your groups as a
service. I am not the owner of any of the registries.
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Message: 18
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - All Members Please Read
Dear List Members:
I need to ask each and every member here who is working privately with
a search angel to PLEASE keep correspondence privately between you and
that specific search angel regarding: Phone call, addresses, possible
names, etc..., This is not only for the list's protection but for
your
protection as well, as I understand that private information must be
keep just that - PRIVATE. My understanding is that laws are changing
and
with the internet now, everything is much more open and "out there."
I
would hate to see a search angel lose access to a paid database or
someone (or this list) get threatened with an invasion of privacy
lawsuit.
(Yes, it is happening more and more these days.) Think of it this way
- if you were not searching, would you like for your own
name/address/phone number/house value, etc.., to be posted in a public
forum for many
to see? It has happened on other lists and searchers and search angels
have lost access to databases and threatened with lawsuits. This is
why I ask this favor of all of you. I do not want to be the bad guy
but
should I see someone post something e.g. names, addresses, phone
numbers, references to contact calls, etc..., you will be set to a
moderated
status. Again, I am not trying to be mean but I am trying to protect
myself, this list and the list`s members, all of whom I consider
family.
Thank You So Very Much,
Owner and Moderators of ALIA
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Message: 19
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - A Important Reminder to All
Please as you are searchng on the group, DO NOT post anything such as
Driver`s License Number`s, Private Home Phone Numbers, Home Addresses,
SNN`s, etc directly on the group.There are people out there that will
take this kind of info and try to use it illegally. If you should be
helping someone in their search, PLEASE send it directly to the person
via
their private email addy. This is to protect you against invasion of
privacy law suits or any other legality.
Thank You
Owner and Moderators
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Message: 20
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - E-mail attatchments
Am writing this letter to the group in reguards to e-mail
attatchments.
If or when you are doing this with you're posting please mention in
the
initial letter that there is an attatchment, as many of us (if it's
not
mentioned) tend to hit the delete key.
Just want to remind everyone of this courtesy, as there are many
attatchments coming out lately, that aren't marked in the intitial
posts.
If the attatchment comes unmarked, please for you're own sake be very
cautious about opening (i myself have found the delete key quite quick
and handy).
Another reminder is be very careful of opening mail that is not in
groups that you are on, or from people you don't know.
once again this is just a precaution
hugs to all
the owner and moderators
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Message: 21
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - Before Hiring A Paid Searcher or CI
If you are considering hiring a paid searcher or a CI, first:
1. Find out if your state has a Confidential Intermediary System
2. If you do hire a searcher, make certain that the person you hire
is a no-find/no-fee searcher. Get something in writing. Also, ask
the company if they can obtain original birth certificates/or have
access to a birth index and provide you with BC numbers...you don't
need
to know their "sources" but if the company states they have no access
to
OBC's or a birth index for the state you are searching in, than they
are not the company you want to hire.
3. Check paid searcher references very carefully. Contact the Better
Business Bureau in the area the paid searcher comes from and ask the
BBB how many complaints are registered against that person/business.
4. If you are unsure of how to check references, email
AngelsLostInAdoption-Owner@yahoogroups.com and the owner/moderators,
will check the paid searcher and get back to you.
5. Never go with a pay first, find second company. The individual
paid searcher might need to have his/her expenses met, but never give
the
entire fee up front. If a searcher asks for that, run away.
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Message: 22
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES
It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.
We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.
If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.
Your help with this would be highly appreciated.
Thank you,
Owner/moderators
It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.
We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.
If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.
Your help with this would be highly appreciated.
Thank you,
Owner/moderators
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Message: 23
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - Yahoo Instructions
We wanted to pass this to all of you who are getting subbed to groups
directly. What you need to do is go to Yahoo and click on MyGroups.
Once
you Click on MyGroups go to MyPreferences. Once you are in
MyPreferences Click on the Email addy that you have listed with Yahoo
and you will
see where to set yourself not to be added to other groups by
Moderators. Set yourself to that. This way you cannot be added to
groups that you
have not asked to join unless you have been invited to join. I have
received several complaints from members here on the group that have
been
added to another group here on Yahoo without asking to join. So please
to stop this go do what I have give you instructions to do. Please
remember to do this before unsubbing from a group you have been added
to,
this way you cannot be re-added or subbed to any group that
you do not wish to be on.
Thank You
Owner & Moderators
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:35:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need Phone# look-up
Hi, Was wondering if someone could find a phone# for
me,still doing geneology,and this is a Uncle.Any help
would be appreciated,thanks Debbie
Jerry L.Dexter
623 Noterdame Ave.
Cuyahoga Falls,OH.
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:34:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Watson <kyoungquist2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: repost
Fayth, So sorry I have no other ideas but will keep a look out for
you.
And to make matters worst alot of people don"t know that we even are
here and when they do they lie a lot so keep going and I"ll pray for
you
Karen EVERYONE LOOK1111
baby62168@aol.com wrote:Hi. I have been searching for 7 years. I have
very little information to go on though I have followed all of the
traditional search steps. My biggest reason for searching is that I
really
need my medical history. My 11 year old daughter is chronically ill
and
it may shed some light on some of her problems. She has Chronic Lyme
disease, fibromyalgia, CFIDS, heart and lung problems, and
hypoglycemia.
She spent six months in a wheelchair last year due to these
conditions.
Now they have found problems with her spine for which they have no
answers.
I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to find but that is my
first
priority.
I was born 6/21/68 in Philadelphia, PA. I was born at approximately
1:30am and was 8lbs 1 oz. My adoption was handled privately by
attorney
Marvin Lundy. I was adopted by a Jewish couple from NJ. My a-mom was a
school teacher. My non-id states that my b-mother was single and 24 at
the time of my birth. My b-grandfather died at age 59. My b-father was
not listed. My a-mom remembers something being mentioned about
Bristol.
Possibly that my b-mom was from there? I was dropped off to my
a-parents
in the back parking lot of a hotel. My a-parents were asked to pay
cash
in advance of my delivery. My a-mom was told that my b-father was a
truck driver and that my b-mom's family did not approve of the
relationship. How much of what she was told being true,. I do not
know. My
b-mother's dob and social security number was not in the
paperwork...only
that she was 24. When the court searcher sent to the last known
address,
the letter was returned. She tried to obtain her social security info
and
was told that my b-mom was not in their records as having worked for
the last 3 years and therefore couldn't be traced that way.
I have registered with all of the pa registies as well as the wwr and
isrr. I have a copy of my adoption decree (which simply states that my
adoption was finalized on 7/25/69). I have posted anyplace I have
found
on the net. I cannot afford to hire a searcher. I have very little
time
to put into searching as caring for my daughter takes so much of my
time. Anyone that has any further ideas, please share them. I would
really
appreciate any help.
Thanks
Fayth
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From: "Gerry Gaulden" <scorpio117@cableone.net>
2. need help oregon
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
3. 8/15/65 female adoptee- S. Miami needs help
From: "ladychelseafan8" <Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com>
4. Re: REPOSTING INFORMATION
From: "Nana Jones" <soonergrannie@adelphia.net>
5. Posting AGAIN !
From: "Cyn-Thia Brown-Williams" <1hmfic@gci.net>
6. whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
7. need help in oregon
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
8. Re: need help in oregon
From: connierhea@aol.com
9. NAR Secret Santa Group on Ebay?
From: "ladygentleheart1025" <ladygentleheart1025@yahoo.com>
10. RE: need help in oregon
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
11. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
12. repost
From: baby62168@aol.com
13. I want to apologize for my last post
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
14. Re: need help in oregon
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
15. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
16. RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
17. File - How to use the registry posts
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
18. File - All Members Please Read
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
19. File - A Important Reminder to All
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
20. File - E-mail attatchments
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
21. File - Before Hiring A Paid Searcher or CI
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
22. File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
23. File - Yahoo Instructions
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
24. Need Phone# look-up
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
25. Re: repost
From: Karen Watson <kyoungquist2003@yahoo.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:29:15 -0600
From: "Gerry Gaulden" <scorpio117@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Testing
LOUD AND CLEAR HERE ON THIS END. LOVE MAMMA GG:O)----- Original
Message -----
From: eugene carpenter
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] Testing
Where is everyone??? If you get this email please let
me know.
Thank You
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:47 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: need help oregon
Is there any one out there that has a DMV list for oregon . I need
info for 1985 through 1997. please e-mail me at jnkjnky@yahoo.com
thank you sarah
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:09:57 -0000
From: "ladychelseafan8" <Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com>
Subject: 8/15/65 female adoptee- S. Miami needs help
I once read that records for South Miami Hospital were available to
peruse at a warehouse on a major route in Florida. Unfortunately, I
failed to bookmark the site. Can anyone confirm or deny this for
me? I plan to visit there at some point this winter and would love
to be able to search this way, if it is at all possible.
Please mail me at Ladychelseafan1@hotmail.com
Thank you!
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:38:48 -0700
From: "Nana Jones" <soonergrannie@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: REPOSTING INFORMATION
Gail, I was adopted from Deaconess Hosp in 1947. I have been
searching
for over 15 years and still searching. Request information from
Deaconess (non-id) and also request nursery records. Does your
husband have
his original birth certificate? When you request records, they like
to
have the name given at birth (if known) as well as the current name.
Also he needs to request and complete a waiver in case his birth
mother
is also searching and contacts Deaconess, they can notify both
parties.
I also wrote Deaconess with a list of about 20 questions, some they
answered, some they didn't. You can request what you want in hopes
that
some little bit of info might give you a break on the search. If you
know where the birthmother might have been born, write the county and
request birth indexes for around the time she might have been born. I
feel that my birthmother's name (on OBC) is an alias; Deaconess told
me
once is was an alias, the next time I asked, they told me it wasn't.
There are so many avenues to go but start with Deaconess, especially
if
you have the original BC. Hope this helps a little bit. God Bless
you in your search. Nana
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From: jrmom0408
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:23 PM
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] REPOSTING INFORMATION
I am searching for husband's birthmother. He was born 12/13/64 at
Deaconess Hospital in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma at 5:52AM. The name
we have for birthmother is Paula Sinclair. However, unsure if this
is her true name or an alias. If anyone has any information or can
be of any help, please e-mail me. Thank You!!!
Gail Davis
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:15:37 -0000
From: "Cyn-Thia Brown-Williams" <1hmfic@gci.net>
Subject: Posting AGAIN !
Greetings to all ! F-ISO-Bmom and Sibs (5 of them)
Seattle,Washington,7/16/60. I was born in the Swedish Hospital (all
records prior to 1967 were destroyed)to Billie F. Richards, who was
23 at the time. She came from Spokane to have me. The Adoption was
done through Associated Lutheran Welfare (no longer in business)and
finalized in April 1961. Billie's fathers' name was George and was
part Indian (Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978 didn't work for me). I
weighed 10lbs and 6ozs and have already hired a CI and found.
Unfortunately Billie wishes no contact (it's been 2 1/2 months)and
all I can do is wait for her to change her mind and/or show up on the
SSDI to start searching for my Sibs. There are so many unanswered
questions that eat away at me. My medical history is only the
beginning ! What about my tribal heritage ? what about my
sibs...shouldn't they have the right to decide for themselves ? (I
already know the answer to these, it just helps to vent !) Billie
lost her husband in 1994. If someone has access to marriage records
that could link Billie F. Richards to whoever she married (he passed
away in 1994) then maybe I could find out where she is ! Anyone ?!
Thanks, as usual, for letting me get this off my chest ! Cyn in AK
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:37:46 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:24:54 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: need help in oregon
I posted that I need help with a DMV list for state of oregon .
I said that I was looking for the years of 1985 through 1997.
I made a mistake I need 1985 to 1987. My son would have been sixteen
through eighteen. I know he was adopted in oregon , so that would be
his first drivers lisence. Thank you Sarah
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:18 EST
From: connierhea@aol.com
Subject: Re: need help in oregon
hi. has anyone from oregon responded? if not, send me your info and
i'll
see what I can help out with.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 03:39:35 -0000
From: "ladygentleheart1025" <ladygentleheart1025@yahoo.com>
Subject: NAR Secret Santa Group on Ebay?
Anyone interested in starting a Secret Santa group for ALIA members
on Ebay? I was reading about them tonight and thought it might help
brighten up someones searching day? Moderators? What 'cha think?
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:48:26 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: need help in oregon
Hi, You know Oregon is open. Have you contacted the state? Joan
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From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:25 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] need help in oregon
I posted that I need help with a DMV list for state of oregon .
I said that I was looking for the years of 1985 through 1997.
I made a mistake I need 1985 to 1987. My son would have been sixteen
through eighteen. I know he was adopted in oregon , so that would be
his first drivers lisence. Thank you Sarah
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:52:30 -0700
From: "joan" <joan1b@cox.net>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
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Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:40:19 EST
From: baby62168@aol.com
Subject: repost
Hi. I have been searching for 7 years. I have very little information
to go
on though I have followed all of the traditional search steps. My
biggest
reason for searching is that I really need my medical history. My 11
year old
daughter is chronically ill and it may shed some light on some of her
problems.
She has Chronic Lyme disease, fibromyalgia, CFIDS, heart and lung
problems, and
hypoglycemia. She spent six months in a wheelchair last year due to
these
conditions. Now they have found problems with her spine for which they
have no
answers.
I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to find but that is my
first
priority.
I was born 6/21/68 in Philadelphia, PA. I was born at approximately
1:30am
and was 8lbs 1 oz. My adoption was handled privately by attorney
Marvin
Lundy. I
was adopted by a Jewish couple from NJ. My a-mom was a school teacher.
My
non-id states that my b-mother was single and 24 at the time of my
birth. My
b-grandfather died at age 59. My b-father was not listed. My a-mom
remembers
something being mentioned about Bristol. Possibly that my b-mom was
from there? I
was dropped off to my a-parents in the back parking lot of a hotel. My
a-parents were asked to pay cash in advance of my delivery. My a-mom
was told that my
b-father was a truck driver and that my b-mom's family did not approve
of the
relationship. How much of what she was told being true,. I do not
know.
My
b-mother's dob and social security number was not in the
paperwork...only that
she was 24. When the court searcher sent to the last known address,
the
letter
was returned. She tried to obtain her social security info and was
told
that
my b-mom was not in their records as having worked for the last 3
years and
therefore couldn't be traced that way.
I have registered with all of the pa registies as well as the wwr and
isrr. I
have a copy of my adoption decree (which simply states that my
adoption
was
finalized on 7/25/69). I have posted anyplace I have found on the net.
I cannot
afford to hire a searcher. I have very little time to put into
searching as
caring for my daughter takes so much of my time. Anyone that has any
further
ideas, please share them. I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks
Fayth
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:30:18 -0000
From: "jnkjnky" <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: I want to apologize for my last post
I didn't mean to rant at the system. Next time I will look at myself
in the mirror , and vent away. Laugh and the world laughs with you ,
cry and you cry alone. thanks for understanding. I do want to share
to adoptee's born in Oregon , adoptee's can get their original birth
certificates , for 15.00 . thanks sarah
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:19:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: need help in oregon
Thank you for responding , what I wanted to find is males that where
born 7/11/69 that got a drivers license in oregon . My son was born
and
adopted in oregon. I need names so that I can call them. Thank you
Sarah
connierhea@aol.com wrote:hi. has anyone from oregon responded? if
not, send me your info and i'll
see what I can help out with.
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:15:1 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hi Joan , yes I have contacted oregon on a regular basis , my other
two
sons have'nt done any thing , didn't know they could. I even wrote my
son a letter , gave medical info , and instructed my other children to
give Michael his stuff things and pictures from birth to 3 years old.
If I would have known what I'm learning now , I would have never lost
my
son. I also am lurning that the state was not telling me the truth.
thanks for your respond. Sarah
joan <joan1b@cox.net> wrote:
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Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:38:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert McCullough <jnkjnky@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Joan , You know what is weird is that , oregon passed measure 58 , I
think 1997 , I sat back thinking my son would contact me. I just got
started last year searching him again. My biggest fear was that he
wouldn't
want to see me , maybe he wasn't told he was adopted , and my worst
thought he is dead. I was going to adopt my three boys to protect them
from their abusive father , but I left their father , and tried to get
Michael back , but I was told I couldn't. Oregon being an oen state is
for
adoptee's only , what I mean is that the adoptee can get his original
birth certificate , at a cost of 15.00, takes about six weeks. but
being
the birth mom , I would have to give them 400.00 , and they would try
to find him , and if he didn't want contact , I get nothing , no name
,
all I would know is that he was alive. thanks Sarah
joan <joan1b@cox.net> wrote:
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Hi, when was the last time you contacted the Oregon? Have the
brothers
signed up to find him? Oregon is open now, and rules have changed.
Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: jnkjnky [mailto:jnkjnky@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:38 PM
To: AngelsLostInAdoption@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AngelsLostInAdoption] whats on my mind ,is it on yours too
Hello every one , I want to share whats on my mind. I spend a great
deal of time thinking. You know I'm a mother searching for her
child , I relingished him when he was three years old. Why is it that
I and many other mothers can't locate their children , when we signed
the papers , I feel when we choose to have contact we should be able.
Our child had nothing to do with our decision , nor signing papers ,
now if the child was taken away from the parent , because of danger
to the child , I might understand , why the need to prtect them , but
then again , people change , it seems as though , these adoption
agencys , don't really understand how we think or feel , the need to
find our child , what do they think we are going to do , we are
searching because we love them , if we didn't search we wouldn't give
a darn. I feel a lot of guilt for signing my son away , there hasn't
been a time I haven't felt that. I tryed to get him back a week
later , they slamed the door in my face , they put another guilt trip
on me , saying why would you want to get him back , he's in a good
home , and the people that have him wanted him so. and yes anger I
have felt , I had three boys at the time they took michael my middle
son , because they had a placement for him , they told me they would
contact me when they had other placements for my other sons. after
trying to get michael back they had the nerve to call and say that
they had a placement for david my youngest , angry yes , well of
course they didn't get my other children. I called them from time to
time . So I have waited till my son turned 18 or 21 depending on the
state laws , I was so sure my son would find me , well he is 34 now ,
I have been waiting and searching. My son is an adult now , not a
baby , I want more than any thing to find my son , why can't these
adoption agencys feel the pain in our hearts , haven't we paid long
enough , please set us all free , give our babys back , we love
them , and so far that is one thing you where not able to take from
us. what more do you think you will get from me , you made money on
my son once , and now you expect money from me , I guess you got a
hold on me , my need to find my son I would hand over the money , but
that would be hard when I'm on disability , it would take years. what
a terrible feeling to think I have no outs. I guess what I'm trying
to say is that being a mother I have to live with the guilt , and
being the child they have to live with rejection , set us free , we
both the child and mother are now adults we alone can make the
decision for our selfs , all we want is our rights back , we need to
complete our lives , where are my rights , I do live in america , the
land of free , or is it ? thank you for letting me vent. sarah
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Message: 17
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - How to use the registry posts
When you receive search posts from the various registries
redistributed
from this address you must reply to the email in the body of the post,
and not to me. I cannot give you any information on any of the
searches
redistributed by me. The email address can be found where it says:
EMAIL= If there is no email address there, you have to remember to go
to:
http://adoptionsearching.com/ Click on SEARCH located in the upper
left
hand corner of the site, enter the DATE OF BIRTH, and click on the
appropriate HOA, WWR # (or whatever the prefix is) to send an email to
the
person searching. This is called Confidental Registrant. I cannot give
you any information regarding any registrant. I also cannot control
any
replies or lack thereof, that you receive from any registrant, be they
Confidential or not. I only redistribute them to your groups as a
service. I am not the owner of any of the registries.
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Message: 18
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - All Members Please Read
Dear List Members:
I need to ask each and every member here who is working privately with
a search angel to PLEASE keep correspondence privately between you and
that specific search angel regarding: Phone call, addresses, possible
names, etc..., This is not only for the list's protection but for
your
protection as well, as I understand that private information must be
keep just that - PRIVATE. My understanding is that laws are changing
and
with the internet now, everything is much more open and "out there."
I
would hate to see a search angel lose access to a paid database or
someone (or this list) get threatened with an invasion of privacy
lawsuit.
(Yes, it is happening more and more these days.) Think of it this way
- if you were not searching, would you like for your own
name/address/phone number/house value, etc.., to be posted in a public
forum for many
to see? It has happened on other lists and searchers and search angels
have lost access to databases and threatened with lawsuits. This is
why I ask this favor of all of you. I do not want to be the bad guy
but
should I see someone post something e.g. names, addresses, phone
numbers, references to contact calls, etc..., you will be set to a
moderated
status. Again, I am not trying to be mean but I am trying to protect
myself, this list and the list`s members, all of whom I consider
family.
Thank You So Very Much,
Owner and Moderators of ALIA
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Message: 19
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - A Important Reminder to All
Please as you are searchng on the group, DO NOT post anything such as
Driver`s License Number`s, Private Home Phone Numbers, Home Addresses,
SNN`s, etc directly on the group.There are people out there that will
take this kind of info and try to use it illegally. If you should be
helping someone in their search, PLEASE send it directly to the person
via
their private email addy. This is to protect you against invasion of
privacy law suits or any other legality.
Thank You
Owner and Moderators
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Message: 20
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - E-mail attatchments
Am writing this letter to the group in reguards to e-mail
attatchments.
If or when you are doing this with you're posting please mention in
the
initial letter that there is an attatchment, as many of us (if it's
not
mentioned) tend to hit the delete key.
Just want to remind everyone of this courtesy, as there are many
attatchments coming out lately, that aren't marked in the intitial
posts.
If the attatchment comes unmarked, please for you're own sake be very
cautious about opening (i myself have found the delete key quite quick
and handy).
Another reminder is be very careful of opening mail that is not in
groups that you are on, or from people you don't know.
once again this is just a precaution
hugs to all
the owner and moderators
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Message: 21
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:00 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - Before Hiring A Paid Searcher or CI
If you are considering hiring a paid searcher or a CI, first:
1. Find out if your state has a Confidential Intermediary System
2. If you do hire a searcher, make certain that the person you hire
is a no-find/no-fee searcher. Get something in writing. Also, ask
the company if they can obtain original birth certificates/or have
access to a birth index and provide you with BC numbers...you don't
need
to know their "sources" but if the company states they have no access
to
OBC's or a birth index for the state you are searching in, than they
are not the company you want to hire.
3. Check paid searcher references very carefully. Contact the Better
Business Bureau in the area the paid searcher comes from and ask the
BBB how many complaints are registered against that person/business.
4. If you are unsure of how to check references, email
AngelsLostInAdoption-Owner@yahoogroups.com and the owner/moderators,
will check the paid searcher and get back to you.
5. Never go with a pay first, find second company. The individual
paid searcher might need to have his/her expenses met, but never give
the
entire fee up front. If a searcher asks for that, run away.
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Message: 22
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - NARS AND FORWARDED MESSAGES
It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.
We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.
If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.
Your help with this would be highly appreciated.
Thank you,
Owner/moderators
It has become apparent that while we all love the nars and forwarded
messages, that they take up alot of storage space on the archives.
We are asking all members to please limit your nar's and forwards to
one a day. If replying to them remove everything but your reply. If
you
are forwarding a message, remove all the extra forwarded addresses
before sending it on.
If the group cannot police itself and help with this minor problem
that
can get out of hand. We will have to limit them to certain days or
restrict them from the group entirely.
Your help with this would be highly appreciated.
Thank you,
Owner/moderators
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Message: 23
Date: 23 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0000
From: AngelsLostInAdoption
Subject: File - Yahoo Instructions
We wanted to pass this to all of you who are getting subbed to groups
directly. What you need to do is go to Yahoo and click on MyGroups.
Once
you Click on MyGroups go to MyPreferences. Once you are in
MyPreferences Click on the Email addy that you have listed with Yahoo
and you will
see where to set yourself not to be added to other groups by
Moderators. Set yourself to that. This way you cannot be added to
groups that you
have not asked to join unless you have been invited to join. I have
received several complaints from members here on the group that have
been
added to another group here on Yahoo without asking to join. So please
to stop this go do what I have give you instructions to do. Please
remember to do this before unsubbing from a group you have been added
to,
this way you cannot be re-added or subbed to any group that
you do not wish to be on.
Thank You
Owner & Moderators
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:35:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Debra Snyder Rexroad <dssr59@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need Phone# look-up
Hi, Was wondering if someone could find a phone# for
me,still doing geneology,and this is a Uncle.Any help
would be appreciated,thanks Debbie
Jerry L.Dexter
623 Noterdame Ave.
Cuyahoga Falls,OH.
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:34:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Watson <kyoungquist2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: repost
Fayth, So sorry I have no other ideas but will keep a look out for
you.
And to make matters worst alot of people don"t know that we even are
here and when they do they lie a lot so keep going and I"ll pray for
you
Karen EVERYONE LOOK1111
baby62168@aol.com wrote:Hi. I have been searching for 7 years. I have
very little information to go on though I have followed all of the
traditional search steps. My biggest reason for searching is that I
really
need my medical history. My 11 year old daughter is chronically ill
and
it may shed some light on some of her problems. She has Chronic Lyme
disease, fibromyalgia, CFIDS, heart and lung problems, and
hypoglycemia.
She spent six months in a wheelchair last year due to these
conditions.
Now they have found problems with her spine for which they have no
answers.
I have plenty of other reasons for wanting to find but that is my
first
priority.
I was born 6/21/68 in Philadelphia, PA. I was born at approximately
1:30am and was 8lbs 1 oz. My adoption was handled privately by
attorney
Marvin Lundy. I was adopted by a Jewish couple from NJ. My a-mom was a
school teacher. My non-id states that my b-mother was single and 24 at
the time of my birth. My b-grandfather died at age 59. My b-father was
not listed. My a-mom remembers something being mentioned about
Bristol.
Possibly that my b-mom was from there? I was dropped off to my
a-parents
in the back parking lot of a hotel. My a-parents were asked to pay
cash
in advance of my delivery. My a-mom was told that my b-father was a
truck driver and that my b-mom's family did not approve of the
relationship. How much of what she was told being true,. I do not
know. My
b-mother's dob and social security number was not in the
paperwork...only
that she was 24. When the court searcher sent to the last known
address,
the letter was returned. She tried to obtain her social security info
and
was told that my b-mom was not in their records as having worked for
the last 3 years and therefore couldn't be traced that way.
I have registered with all of the pa registies as well as the wwr and
isrr. I have a copy of my adoption decree (which simply states that my
adoption was finalized on 7/25/69). I have posted anyplace I have
found
on the net. I cannot afford to hire a searcher. I have very little
time
to put into searching as caring for my daughter takes so much of my
time. Anyone that has any further ideas, please share them. I would
really
appreciate any help.
Thanks
Fayth
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