Three weeks ago I popped my shoulder out of socket while moving some 75 pound boxes in our companies very small cooler. On a side note here, I mentioned to both of the owners a different way to handle the boxes but they said tough, this is how we want to bring them in ignoring my suggestion. I point this out since I had hurt my shoulder a week prior to this, and after being released back to full duty, I hurt my shoulder again having to move those damn boxes again. There where two empoyees who had just walked into the cooler who witnesed it happen and one helped me pop it back before i went to the hospital to get it checked out. (side note, I popped my shoulder out of socket when I played football in highschool and about 4 months after that, so i kind of knew how to do it, BTW, that was about 15 years ago) I went to the clinic by my house since we do not have a medical clinic we use exclusively to get it looked at. I told the owner over the phone about the incident and left it at that.
After a week, they still had not filed a first report of injury with our insurance company so I reminded them that they need to do that. Well, to make a long story short, I was terminated soon after that for an unknown reason and the clinic still has not received any workers comp info. Does this seem funny?
Along with that, since I was let go for some unknown reason, I filed for unempoyment benefits the next day and just today I got the letter listing my benefits. What is odd is that there is no reported income on that sheet from my employer for the complete 2005 year to date. This bothers me because it changes my potential benefit from $515 (the max) down to $350. I know I can send in the correction form for that, but I do not get check stubs very often (I have only gotten 3 this whole year).
What to do? what to do!
BTW, I am in Minnesota
restaurantowner12
10-06-2005, 05:23 PM
Ohh! This is going to be a good one.
I've learned so much from this site. Sick'em Beth, point this guy in the right direction.
Beth3
10-07-2005, 07:57 AM
After a week, they still had not filed a first report of injury with our insurance company so I reminded them that they need to do that. Well, to make a long story short, I was terminated soon after that for an unknown reason and the clinic still has not received any workers comp info. Does this seem funny? Well, the timing is certainly suspect especially if you didn't engage in any misconduct, there was no reorganization or downsizing taking place, and you weren't provided with a reason.
If your employer has failed or is refusing to file a worker's comp claim, you can contact your State's Worker's Compensation Division and do that directly. I suggest you do so because if your employer isn't paying the medical bills for your shoulder, the hospital is going to come after you. You may want to discuss your discharge with the State and/or with a WC attorney.
restaurantowner12
10-07-2005, 08:25 AM
This type of restaurant owner (assumption) that gives good owners a black-eye. I would also be very concerned about the no-income reported in 2005, maybe more so than the worker's comp claim.
complwyr
09-23-2007, 10:17 PM
If they did not report your income for unemployment purposes, then they are not filing the correct forms or paying their taxes as required by law. I bet the state unemployment folks, or even the state attorney general, would like to know about it. And the IRS would too.
You better check with the Social Security administration and see if they paid your FICA taxes, too.
Pattymd
09-24-2007, 05:37 AM
A two year old post? Come on. :mad: :eek:
Beth3
09-24-2007, 06:45 AM
Attorney Bollinger must have been having a slow day...
complwyr
09-24-2007, 06:50 AM
Sorry-it was on the front page of the forum when I pulled it up on my computer. I did not even look at the original post date. :o
LoisLane
09-25-2007, 10:17 AM
You know Patty, maybe you should just be thankful that you have an actual attorney on this site assisting folks.
1) He does this for free.
2) He probably has better things to do.
3) How many atty's are here assisting?
Many sites do not have Pros on the Boards available to give their assistance.
LL
mlane58
09-25-2007, 10:41 AM
You know Patty, maybe you should just be thankful that you have an actual attorney on this site assisting folks.
1) He does this for free.
2) He probably has better things to do.
3) How many atty's are here assisting?
Many sites do not have Pros on the Boards available to give their assistance.
LL
And maybe you should understand that responding to a two year old post doesn't do anyone any good as the original OP is long gone and their problem is more than likely resloved.
1) He does this for free.
So do the rest of us.
2)He probably has better things to do.We do too
3) How many atty's are here assisting?
I wasn't aware that we had to be. Most here are very experience and educated HR professionals and Payroll Pros that have intimate knowledge of the laws and work with them daily more than most attorneys do.
complwyr
09-25-2007, 12:37 PM
With all due respect, in my 17 years of handling work comp cases, I have never encountered a HR or payroll manager who had more than a superficial knowledge of work comp law. They really have no reason to stay on top of it as most work comp decisions get delegated to adjusters and attorneys anyway.
Most of the work comp adjusters I have encountered during that time had significant deficits in their knowledge of work comp law as well. Many adjusters handle multiple states so they have an overwhelming amount of law to try to keep up with, while staying on top of each file. It is a lot to ask of them to stay up on everything.
cbg
09-25-2007, 12:51 PM
Okay, I'm going to step in before things get ugly.
Bob, I am very happy to have you here. I'm happy to have all the qualified people I can get responding on the boards here. If you see anything that is out and out wrong, I hope you will correct it.
Everyone needs to remember, though, and I am not singling anyone out here, that we can only provide general information, not specific legal advice. As a result, a lot of the information provided is going to be very general. There may well be exceptions and to experts, like Bob, it may seem misleading. But in a forum such as this, it does no good to try to answer every possible eventuality. For one thing, we have to constantly be aware that we do not have the whole story in most cases; we only have what information the poster has chosen to give us. The poster him/herself may not even have all the info. Therefore, a situation that seems black and white based on the available facts may not, in fact, be anything of the sort. That is why you will frequently see references to "based on the facts in your post" or "according to what you have posted". That is a recognition that additional facts might change the answer.
I have seen a number of posts over the years where the poster added additional facts towards the end of their thread that made a material change to the answer. One in particular stands out; it was not a workers comp issue, and I no longer remember all the details, but several very qualified HR people as well as at least three attorneys were all in complete agreement as to the answer. Towards the end of a thread that went on for close to sixty posts, the OP said something like, "Oh, did I mention that..." and went on to add something that COMPLETELY changed the answer. I mean a 180 degree turn around. So we can't assume that we have the entire story.
The good thing about a forum like this is that we can all learn from each other. None of us knows it all. I rarely respond to workers comp issues because that is not one of my strengths, for example, All I ask is that everyone remember that we all have our strengths and weaknesses, and be supportive of each other's attempts to help the posters. That is, after all, why we are all here.
I am talking to EVERYONE.
Kick Me
09-25-2007, 01:20 PM
Now that cbg, sounds like a "super moderator" talking. I applaud you. :)
cbg
09-25-2007, 01:27 PM
Thank you, Kick Me, that means a lot to me. I mean that sincerely. :)
Kick Me
09-25-2007, 01:42 PM
Your are very welcome. My intent/comment was 100% sincere as well.
cbg
09-25-2007, 01:47 PM
I didn't question that at all. I just didn't want there to be any misunderstandings; since I tend to be brief and to the point sometimes people have mistaken comments I have made as sarcastic when I didn't intend them as such. I wanted to be sure you realized that was not the case here.
Isn't it nice when we can all play nicely in the sandbox together? ;) :D
complwyr
09-25-2007, 01:48 PM
CBG, good post. That sounds fair. I don't have any problem with that either. BB
Kick Me
09-28-2007, 10:27 AM
Isn't it nice when we can all play nicely in the sandbox together? ;) :D
Yes ma'am it is. Kind of hurts to be the new kid in the sandbox when the first thing that happens is to have someone start throwing sand in one's eyes. ;)
Tends to make all the new kids want to take their toys and move to a new neighborhood where they might be more readily accepted into the fold.
Beth3
09-28-2007, 01:13 PM
I didn't question that at all. I just didn't want there to be any misunderstandings; since I tend to be brief and to the point sometimes people have mistaken comments I have made as sarcastic when I didn't intend them as such. I wanted to be sure you realized that was not the case here.
Isn't it nice when we can all play nicely in the sandbox together? ;) :D
Except when it gets in your underwear. :D
cbg
09-28-2007, 01:24 PM
Well, I think we're all willing to stop throwing sand now. I think we've all read enough of each other's posts to have a better idea of where we're all coming from. I hope.
complwyr
09-28-2007, 03:01 PM
I've been a good boy for several days now.
cbg
09-29-2007, 12:30 AM
Yes, you have, and so has Kick Me been a good girl, and hopefully I've been a good moderator.
Sometimes it just takes a little time for old and new posters to get used to each other.
Let's all be friends.
LoisLane
09-29-2007, 09:00 AM
I think you all need a good spanking!
( I had to)
:p
cbg
09-29-2007, 10:01 AM
S'okay, Lois; we probably deserved it. :D
cbg
01-11-2008, 12:45 AM
I'd just as soon we don't keep this one going. It was a two year old post when it was resurrected and it's been dead for several months now. I have no problem with the occasional "joke post" but I don't think this one qualifies.