cactus jack
06-17-2005, 03:22 AM
There is no particular state involved as this is mostly a federal issue. Should be simple to explain to me.
This is in regards to the Privacy Act of 1974 and both employment and as a regular person.
1. In regards to employment, I have been chastised because I refused to complete the I-9 forms. I have seen the I-9, and the forms I worked with, original forms, were a minimum of 2 pages. I have seen these forms for sale in office supply stores, $15 for 100 sheet tablet. I refuse to fill them out if they are photocopies (employers seem to think that $10 is too much to spend, I guess). I refuse to fill the photocopis out because they lack a Privacy Act statement. Several employers understood and worked with me on changing this (easy, really). But a couple of employers went so far as to fake my signiture on the I-9. Exactly what is the protocol on this? I don't see how I can be penalized for complying with the law (or more like allowing it to protect my interests?).
2. I have app'd for a variety of reason to local and state government agencies. NONE of them have any Privacy Act statements on their applications. Anything from job app's to license app's to permits for *you name it*. Nothing regarding the Privacy Act. This only concerns me when they ask for my SSN.
I have read the Privacy act, and I have no problem providing it, solong as they have a reason. And are compliant with the Privacy Act. What I have a problem with here, is that they, as in ALL government agencies (federal, state and local) are required to provided a Privacy Act Statement. Nothing major. just tell me why they need it, is it voluntary or manditory, if manditory under what law, and what the use of the number is. Not my opinion mind you, but Section 7b which is an amendment from a public law passed in 1976 (IIRC). And this is even supported on the USDoJ website http://www.usdoj.gov/04foia/privstat.htm (scroll 9/10 of the way down).
I don't understand what is so difficult about this-
"Any Federal, State or local government agency which requests an individual to disclose his social security account number shall inform that individual whether that disclosure is mandatory or voluntary, by what statutory or other authority such number is solicited, and what uses will be made of it."
Word for word, black and white. No interpretation needed. Simple language.
When I dispute this, all I'm told is "sue us". Don't I have any rights under this law? Am I truly liable for the state, county and city government's inability to comply with the federal law?
This is in regards to the Privacy Act of 1974 and both employment and as a regular person.
1. In regards to employment, I have been chastised because I refused to complete the I-9 forms. I have seen the I-9, and the forms I worked with, original forms, were a minimum of 2 pages. I have seen these forms for sale in office supply stores, $15 for 100 sheet tablet. I refuse to fill them out if they are photocopies (employers seem to think that $10 is too much to spend, I guess). I refuse to fill the photocopis out because they lack a Privacy Act statement. Several employers understood and worked with me on changing this (easy, really). But a couple of employers went so far as to fake my signiture on the I-9. Exactly what is the protocol on this? I don't see how I can be penalized for complying with the law (or more like allowing it to protect my interests?).
2. I have app'd for a variety of reason to local and state government agencies. NONE of them have any Privacy Act statements on their applications. Anything from job app's to license app's to permits for *you name it*. Nothing regarding the Privacy Act. This only concerns me when they ask for my SSN.
I have read the Privacy act, and I have no problem providing it, solong as they have a reason. And are compliant with the Privacy Act. What I have a problem with here, is that they, as in ALL government agencies (federal, state and local) are required to provided a Privacy Act Statement. Nothing major. just tell me why they need it, is it voluntary or manditory, if manditory under what law, and what the use of the number is. Not my opinion mind you, but Section 7b which is an amendment from a public law passed in 1976 (IIRC). And this is even supported on the USDoJ website http://www.usdoj.gov/04foia/privstat.htm (scroll 9/10 of the way down).
I don't understand what is so difficult about this-
"Any Federal, State or local government agency which requests an individual to disclose his social security account number shall inform that individual whether that disclosure is mandatory or voluntary, by what statutory or other authority such number is solicited, and what uses will be made of it."
Word for word, black and white. No interpretation needed. Simple language.
When I dispute this, all I'm told is "sue us". Don't I have any rights under this law? Am I truly liable for the state, county and city government's inability to comply with the federal law?
