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disseminator
10-14-2004, 04:17 PM
Chechen Terrorists Probed

from: The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published October 13, 2004

U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence
report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the
United States from Mexico in July.

The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists
seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia,
according to officials familiar with intelligence reports.

Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly
traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of
Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to
monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The intelligence report was supplied to the U.S. government in late
August or early September and was based on information from an
intelligence source that has been proved reliable in other
instances, one official said.

A second U.S. official said the report is being investigated, but
said it could not be determined whether the group of Chechens
actually entered the country, as the intelligence source reported.
"We don't know whether or not that report is true," this official
said.

A spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed that
the intelligence report was provided by another government agency,
but said Border Patrol agents were unable to verify its accuracy.

It could not be learned whether the reported infiltration is related
to the recent Education Department warning to school officials to
examine security in the aftermath of the attack last month by
pro-Chechnya Muslim terrorists on a school in Russia, in which more
than 300 people were killed and some 700 wounded.

In the Russian attack, heavily armed Islamists took over and wired
with explosives the school building in Beslan, North Ossetia. It is
believed that an accidental explosion set off a battle between
Russian security personnel and the terrorists, who set off several
explosions and shot schoolchildren and teachers as they tried to
escape.

U.S. officials believe the Beslan terrorists included some
al Qaeda-linked foreign terrorists.

The Education Department letter said that school officials should
examine "protective measure guidance" for helping to prevent and
respond to a similar terrorist attack, were it to occur in the
United States.

The notice said the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security
are "currently unaware of any specific, credible information
indicating a terrorist threat to public and private schools,
universities or colleges in the United States."

The letter stated that indicators of terrorist surveillance before
an attack include interest in site plans for schools, bus routes and
attendance lists from persons who don't normally request such
information.

Authorities also were advised to remain alert for "static
surveillance" by people who may be disguised as panhandlers,
shoeshiners, newspaper or flower vendors, or street sweepers who
seem out of place in a particular area.

Other indicators of terrorist surveillance can include spying on
school security drills, people staring at employees or vehicles in
parking areas, and surveillance by pedestrians.

Fears of an attack on American schools also were raised by the
recent discovery in Iraq of a computer disk containing data showing
the layout of six schools in the United States, including districts
in California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey and Oregon.

Officials believed the disk may have been part of a terrorist plot.
However, FBI officials said on Friday that there did not appear to
be a terrorist threat connected to the computer disk.

The Iraqi who had the disk, a member of Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath
Party, apparently was collecting information from the Internet
sites of American schools that would be useful for emergency
planning for Iraqi schools, U.S. officials said.

U.S. security officials have been concerned in recent months that
al Qaeda or other terrorists are planning to enter the United States
from Mexico.

Intelligence officials said a suspected al Qaeda leader who has been
in the United States was spotted recently in Mexico. Officials
believe Adnan Shukrijumah, whom the FBI wants for questioning, met
with alien smugglers in Mexico and Honduras and was seeking ways to
bring al Qaeda members into the United States. Shukrijumah was seen
in August in the Sonora province of northern Mexico, officials said.
Since October 2003, authorities have arrested five Arabs
attempting to cross illegally into the United States from Mexico.

In July, officials dismissed as untrue an Internet report that said
a group of Middle Eastern men were recently caught trying to cross
the border from Mexico.

The report apparently was based on a group of Oaxacan tribesmen who
were stopped as they tried to cross the border in Arizona. The
tribesmen spoke an Indian language native to southern Mexico that
may have been mistaken for Arabic, officials said at the time.


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Tiny Human Ferret
10-15-2004, 09:50 AM
disseminator wrote:
Chechen Terrorists Probed from: The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published October 13, 2004 U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July. The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports. Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

I wonder what's in those backpacks.

Chechnaya is believed to be one of the regions from which the Russiyans
did not recover all of their "backpack nukes".

These devices are relatively low-yield even when perfectly maintained
and freshly fueled, only about 10 kilotons TNT equivalent. However, only
16-kilotons caused incredible destruction in Hiroshima, Japan, at the
close of the Second World War.

<snips>

--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

Harvey
10-15-2004, 10:17 AM
"Tiny Human Ferret" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
disseminator wrote:
Chechen Terrorists Probed from: The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published October 13, 2004 U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July. The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports. Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity. I wonder what's in those backpacks. Chechnaya is believed to be one of the regions from which the Russiyans did not recover all of their "backpack nukes". These devices are relatively low-yield even when perfectly maintained and freshly fueled, only about 10 kilotons TNT equivalent. However, only 16-kilotons caused incredible destruction in Hiroshima, Japan, at the close of the Second World War. <snips>


Rather ominous thinking. The timing is interesting in context. "October
surprise" may aquire a new meaning. We already have the Spanish example.
Hope you're wrong.


-- The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may often assume the appearance, and produce the effects, of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy. --Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

Scipio
10-15-2004, 03:33 PM
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:17:17 -0700, "Harvey"
<[email protected]> wrote:

"Tiny Human Ferret" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]
disseminator wrote:
Chechen Terrorists Probed from: The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published October 13, 2004 U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July. The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports. Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity. I wonder what's in those backpacks. Chechnaya is believed to be one of the regions from which the Russiyans did not recover all of their "backpack nukes". These devices are relatively low-yield even when perfectly maintained and freshly fueled, only about 10 kilotons TNT equivalent. However, only 16-kilotons caused incredible destruction in Hiroshima, Japan, at the close of the Second World War. <snips>Rather ominous thinking. The timing is interesting in context. "Octobersurprise" may aquire a new meaning. We already have the Spanish example.Hope you're wrong.

I'm not trying to sound like a goofball when I say this, but...

I'll bet you that if a nuke, smuggled in over the southern border, was
found and/or detonated, Mr Bush STILL would not seal the border in
such way that it bring a halt to the Illegals traffic.

He would grab all the Wartime President capital he could get, he would
make ultra-hardcore statements and threats and investigations. He
might even invade Nova Scotia. It would a din of noise and action, yet
he would STILL qualify everything he said having to do with Mexico and
the border... and do nothing about either.



-- The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may often assume the appearance, and produce the effects, of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy. --Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

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