I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of my
province's Motor Vehicle Act.



My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid on
all multilane public roads. The law gives allowances for left turners. While
I'm not so anal about it on city roads with left turning traffic, I still
feel that in general, people should be keeping right.



As well, I believe it is perfectly legal to pass on the right. While it is
something that should be done with caution, I still think it's perfectly
legal, and if a cop finds someone passing on the right, the person in the
left lane should be the one getting a ticket.



Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways.
Someone said their cop friend says that's the truth, but just because that's
one LEO's interpretation, doesn't make it correct does it? Others still
think there are KRETP "zones", and it's only valid when there is a KRETP
sign.



Some of these same people also think it is absolutely forbidden to pass on
the right.



What's your opinion?



Here's the URL to our motor vehicle act:

http://www.gov.ns.ca/legi/legc/statutes/motorv.htm



and here's some sections of interest:



---Rules for laned traffic---



111 Whenever a street or highway has been divided into clearly marked lanes
for traffic, drivers of vehicles shall obey the following regulations:



(a) a vehicle shall normally be driven in the lane nearest the right-hand
edge or curb of the highway when such lane is available for travel except
when overtaking another vehicle or in preparation for a left turn or as
permitted in clause (d);



(b) a vehicle shall be driven as nearly as is practicable entirely within a
single lane and shall not be moved from such lane until the driver has first
ascertained that the movement can be made with safety;



(c) upon a highway which is divided into three lanes a vehicle shall not be
driven in the centre lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle
or in preparation for a left turn or unless the centre lane is at the time
allocated exclusively to traffic moving in the direction the vehicle is
proceeding and is sign-posted to give notice of such allocation;



---Overtaking and passing---



114 Except as otherwise provided in Section 115, the following rules shall
govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles:



(a) the driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the
same direction shall not pass until after he has given a suitable and
audible signal, and shall pass to the left of the overtaken vehicle at a
safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the highway
until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle;



(b) the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favour
of the overtaking vehicle on suitable and audible signal and shall not
increase the speed of his vehicle, until completely passed by the overtaking
vehicle;



***(c) in the event vehicles on a street or highway are moving in two or
more substantially continuous lines, clauses (a) and (b) shall not be
considered as prohibiting the vehicles in one such line overtaking or
passing the vehicles in another such line either upon the right or the left,
nor shall clauses (a) and (b) be construed to prohibit a driver overtaking
and passing upon the right another vehicle which is making or about to make
a left turn. R.S., c. 293, s. 114.

In a previous posting, "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> had the audacity
to say:

:I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of my
:province's Motor Vehicle Act.
:
:My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid on
:all multilane public roads. The law gives allowances for left turners. While
:I'm not so anal about it on city roads with left turning traffic, I still
:feel that in general, people should be keeping right.

Agreed.

:As well, I believe it is perfectly legal to pass on the right. While it is
:something that should be done with caution, I still think it's perfectly
:legal, and if a cop finds someone passing on the right, the person in the
:left lane should be the one getting a ticket.

Assuming it's not possible to book 'em both, then yeah.

:Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways.

In practice, that's pretty much the case, it seems. :}

:Someone said their cop friend says that's the truth, but just because that's
:one LEO's interpretation, doesn't make it correct does it? Others still
:think there are KRETP "zones", and it's only valid when there is a KRETP
:sign.
:
:Some of these same people also think it is absolutely forbidden to pass on
:the right.

The law you quoted does appear to prohibit passing on the right
(yeah baby!), although the definition of "substantially
continuous lines" is subject to interpretation. To me it means
the road being congested to saturation point with traffic moving
not much faster than about 60 km/h. But the law you quoted
allows plenty of slack, since it does not make such an explicit
reference.

:What's your opinion?

I wish that phrasing was in the Motor Vehicle Act here. :}

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present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:22:12 GMT, "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote:
I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of myprovince's Motor Vehicle Act.My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid onall multilane public roads.

I agree.
Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways.

Of course, most people just ignore KRETP entirely.

If we could just convince people to follow that law, road capacity in
most places would instantly triple.

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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:27:15 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
<slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com>
Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways.Of course, most people just ignore KRETP entirely.If we could just convince people to follow that law, road capacity inmost places would instantly triple.

Think of the money that could be saved.

Oh, wait - think of the money that couldn't be spent. Politicians will
never go for it.
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:22:12 GMT, "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote:I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of myprovince's Motor Vehicle Act.My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid onall multilane public roads. I agree.Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways. Of course, most people just ignore KRETP entirely. If we could just convince people to follow that law, road capacity in most places would instantly triple.

yeah... even if KRETP were only enforced on limited access highways, the
roads would still be a hell of a lot more pleasant than they are now.

nate

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:23:26 -0500, Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:
Scott en Aztlán wrote: On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:22:12 GMT, "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote:I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of myprovince's Motor Vehicle Act.My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid onall multilane public roads. I agree.Some other people think that KRETP is only valid on limited access highways. Of course, most people just ignore KRETP entirely. If we could just convince people to follow that law, road capacity in most places would instantly triple.yeah... even if KRETP were only enforced on limited access highways, theroads would still be a hell of a lot more pleasant than they are now.nate

No they wouldn't.

What you get is someone in the left lane for hundreds of miles anyway, as the
law never _actually_ gets enforced. Only speeding gets enforced. And, at that
point, its now illegal to pass him, so you are stuck at 62 mph in a 65, or
breaking the law yourself in order to make some time.

Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -
forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind
slowpokes that won't get over.

Dave Head

In a previous posting, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> had the
audacity to say:

:Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -
:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind
:slowpokes that won't get over.

Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't like
to be LLB'd?

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present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:18 GMT, E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
In a previous posting, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> had theaudacity to say::Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind:slowpokes that won't get over.Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't liketo be LLB'd?

THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!

Around 11/23/2004 5:19 AM, Dave Head wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:18 GMT, E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:In a previous posting, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> had theaudacity to say::Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind:slowpokes that won't get over.Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't liketo be LLB'd? THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!

But they shouldn't have to.


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Dave Head wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:18 GMT, E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
:Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind:slowpokes that won't get over.
Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't liketo be LLB'd?
THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!

I would be overjoyed to see Muggins pulling the pit maneuver on you, the
one who's oblivious to what's going on around you. Chances are you
won't even notice him in your mirrors till it's too late to do anything
about it.

Garth Almgren <nospam@v6stang.com> wrote in message news:<30hgc3F2v7o29U2@uni-berlin.de>... Around 11/23/2004 5:19 AM, Dave Head wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:18 GMT, E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:In a previous posting, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> had theaudacity to say::Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind:slowpokes that won't get over.Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't liketo be LLB'd? THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!! But they shouldn't have to.

They shouldn't pull up even with my left rear quarter panel and just
sit there, any time I am in the right lane, either.

But they do.

In a previous posting, guy <homer@simpson.com> had the audacity
to say:

:> THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!
:
:I would be overjoyed to see Muggins pulling the pit maneuver on you, the
:one who's oblivious to what's going on around you. Chances are you
:won't even notice him in your mirrors till it's too late to do anything
:about it.

Ahh, but "Muggins" doesn't PIT people, no matter how much they
deserve it. That has been his key to staying out of jail. :} The
real trick (and this one keeps you free) is just to make them
*think* you're going to PIT them. Now there's no crime in that,
or if there is, it's pretty difficult to prove conclusively.

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present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:19:58 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:18 GMT, E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:In a previous posting, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> had theaudacity to say::Hope they never have this law again. I rejoiced when the repealed in in Ohio -:forget when - 60's I think - but it was great. No more getting stuck behind:slowpokes that won't get over.Isn't it funny, the sheer hypocrisy of the LLB who doesn't liketo be LLB'd?THEY CAN ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!

It's even funnier when the hypocrite LLB has a short fuse. ;)

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"Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:<EDBjd.174079$Np3.7030625@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>... I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of my province's Motor Vehicle Act. My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid on all multilane public roads. The law gives allowances for left turners. While I'm not so anal about it on city roads with left turning traffic, I still feel that in general, people should be keeping right.

KREPT is not a law anywhere - at least not a law that can be enforced
since there are so many legitimate reasons for being in the left lane.
And besides cops understand that LLBs slow down traffic and thus make
the roads safer for everyone. Cops are ****heads but even they get
sick of prying out of cars some kid mangled by a speeder.

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:780ea958.0411242027.5048b3f6@posting.google.c om... "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message
news:<EDBjd.174079$Np3.7030625@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>... I'm having an argument in a local newsgroup about the interpretation of
my province's Motor Vehicle Act. My interpretation of the law is that Keep Right Except To Pass is valid
on all multilane public roads. The law gives allowances for left turners.
While I'm not so anal about it on city roads with left turning traffic, I
still feel that in general, people should be keeping right. KREPT is not a law anywhere -

You truly are retarded.

xeton2001@yahoo.com (Laura Bush murdered her boy friend) wrote KREPT is not a law anywhere - at least not a law that can be enforced since there are so many legitimate reasons for being in the left lane. And besides cops understand that LLBs slow down traffic and thus make the roads safer for everyone. Cops are ****heads but even they get sick of prying out of cars some kid mangled by a speeder.

Just to revive this thread; this was in this morning's Seattle PI
Floyd
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Getting There: Law says left lanes are for passing only

By JANE HADLEY
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

Question: "My friend and I keep having the same argument when we drive down
I-5," writes Jace Krause of Seattle. "He tends to drive in the left lane,
but doesn't go much faster than the speed limit. I tell him he's holding up
traffic and that he should move right for faster drivers. He insists that as
long as he's going the speed limit, he can drive in whatever lane he wants.
Which one of us is right?"

Answer: You are right, Jace.

Trooper Kelly Spangler says the rule is simple. "The left lane is a passing
lane," she says. All vehicles should be in the right lanes unless they are
passing.

"Once you pass a car using the left lane, you should return to the right
lanes," she says.

For legal beagles, the applicable law is RCW 46.61.100. Subsection 4 says,
"It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a
multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic."

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:53:56 -0700, "fbloogyudsr"
<fbloogyudsr@nwlink.com> wrote:
Trooper Kelly Spangler says the rule is simple. "The left lane is a passinglane," she says. All vehicles should be in the right lanes unless they arepassing."Once you pass a car using the left lane, you should return to the rightlanes," she says.For legal beagles, the applicable law is RCW 46.61.100. Subsection 4 says,"It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of amultilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic."

TAKE THAT, JUDY!!!