>Re: cop was not in courtJul/14Thin Blue Line402 wrote

This is crap. Every state has enacted legislation to protect policeofficers from BS civil remedies. If you could sue an officer for enforcingthe law, you would see MANY fewer arrest. (This is not to say that officerscan't be sued for actual wrongs.)


scott

thin you need to learn how to read go back and read it now you puz


THE JUDGE DISMISSED THE TICKET FOR THE 2ND. TIME

From: DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY PATROL
I Can Not Find A Violation Of The Veh. Code.


how much $!!,!!!

Actually I posted to the wrong person. I should have replied to the post
concerning the person was going to sue the officer for issuing a citation.
I would think you would have realized that, but I'm a "puz" and obviously
not as intelligent as you!

Stupid people make me laugh!
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"Scott Miillington" <mediicb4.haapis@codehot.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ffcb601.0307141121.1a4552fb@posting.google.c om...Re: cop was not in courtJul/14Thin Blue Line402 wroteThis is crap. Every state has enacted legislation to protect policeofficers from BS civil remedies. If you could sue an officer for
enforcingthe law, you would see MANY fewer arrest. (This is not to say that
officerscan't be sued for actual wrongs.) scott thin you need to learn how to read go back and read it now you puz THE JUDGE DISMISSED THE TICKET FOR THE 2ND. TIME From: DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY PATROL I Can Not Find A Violation Of The Veh. Code. how much $!!,!!!

Okay, I read it again. Here is your answer!

California Motor Vehicle Law regarding lighting.

24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two
auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less
than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps
designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not
be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two
auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less
than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps
designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also
be lighted with the upper beam.



24403. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two
foglamps which may be used with, but shall not be used in
substitution of, headlamps. Foglamps shall be mounted on the front
at a height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and so
aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity
portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall
at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of four
inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes.



24404. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two
white spotlamps, which shall not be used in substitution of
headlamps.
(b) No spotlamp shall be equipped with any lamp source exceeding
32 standard candlepower or 30 watts nor project any glaring light
into the eyes of an approaching driver.
(c) Every spotlamp shall be so directed when in use: That no
portion of the main substantially parallel beam of light will strike
the roadway to the left of the prolongation of the left side line of
the vehicle.
That the top of the beam will not strike the roadway at a distance
in excess of 300 feet from the vehicle.
(d) This section does not apply to spotlamps on authorized
emergency vehicles.
(e) No spotlamp when in use shall be directed so as to illuminate
any other moving vehicle.



24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing
to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp
system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency
vehicle.



"Scott Miillington" <mediicb4.haapis@codehot.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ffcb601.0307141121.1a4552fb@posting.google.c om...Re: cop was not in courtJul/14Thin Blue Line402 wroteThis is crap. Every state has enacted legislation to protect policeofficers from BS civil remedies. If you could sue an officer for
enforcingthe law, you would see MANY fewer arrest. (This is not to say that
officerscan't be sued for actual wrongs.) scott thin you need to learn how to read go back and read it now you puz THE JUDGE DISMISSED THE TICKET FOR THE 2ND. TIME From: DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY PATROL I Can Not Find A Violation Of The Veh. Code. how much $!!,!!!

"Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afPQa.2737$Mc.239467@newsread1.prod.itd.earth link.net... Okay, I read it again. Here is your answer! California Motor Vehicle Law regarding lighting. 24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam. (b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam. 24403. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two foglamps which may be used with, but shall not be used in substitution of, headlamps.

Funny, here in Australia, New Zealand, EU, Africa, Asia - but particularly
in EU we are taught to use front fog lights in 'severe' conditions with just
the parkers-sidelights switched on, to 'further reduce reflected glare'.

(Or in US mode do we consider 'headlamps' to also include 'park lights')?

Here, they are wired to operate on park/low/high beam, - one might need to
give a quick warning high-beam flash and not extinguish and so potentially
distract other drivers.

In falling snow at night even UNECE low beams are better kept off, the fogs
in this circumstance are excellent.


Foglamps shall be mounted on the front at a height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of four inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes.

All well and good, but you need to consider rear fog lamps, these are a
pain, sometimes, but are excellent for the intended purpose and should be
mandatory in my view.

At this point they appear on growing numbers of US market vehicles, can they
be used in California under heavy fog and type conditions?

I note no text regarding rear fog lights in the Californian Driver Manual.
They are a reality and the correct use thereof should be imparted.

JP



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Mot Adv wrote: "Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:afPQa.2737$Mc.239467@newsread1.prod.itd.earth link.net... Okay, I read it again. Here is your answer! California Motor Vehicle Law regarding lighting. 24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam. (b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam. 24403. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two foglamps which may be used with, but shall not be used in substitution of, headlamps. Funny, here in Australia, New Zealand, EU, Africa, Asia - but particularly in EU we are taught to use front fog lights in 'severe' conditions with just the parkers-sidelights switched on, to 'further reduce reflected glare'. (Or in US mode do we consider 'headlamps' to also include 'park lights')? Here, they are wired to operate on park/low/high beam, - one might need to give a quick warning high-beam flash and not extinguish and so potentially distract other drivers. In falling snow at night even UNECE low beams are better kept off, the fogs in this circumstance are excellent.

You're right, there are circumstances where one might want to run fogs
but not headlights, but here in the YooEss all factory-wired fog lights
come on only with the low beams.
Foglamps shall be mounted on the front at a height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of four inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes. All well and good, but you need to consider rear fog lamps, these are a pain, sometimes, but are excellent for the intended purpose and should be mandatory in my view. At this point they appear on growing numbers of US market vehicles, can they be used in California under heavy fog and type conditions? I note no text regarding rear fog lights in the Californian Driver Manual. They are a reality and the correct use thereof should be imparted. JP

Again a good point, but we've only started to see significant numbers of
cars with rear fog lights within the past few years. Even my '02 GTI
does not have one, although it certainly has provisions for one. I've
already added a euro-spec headlight switch, but have not gotten around
to running the extra wire to the back of the car yet.

nate

"Nathan Nagel" <njnagel> wrote in message > You're right, there are circumstances where one might want to run fogs but not headlights, but here in the YooEss all factory-wired fog lights come on only with the low beams.

Yup. I had a GOOD set of after-market fog lamps that I installed myself.
They wouldn't come on without the parking lamps (because I powered the relay
off the parking lamp hot line, so I wouldn't accidentally forget to turn
them off), but I could turn off the headlamps and keep the fogs running. I
noticed in some weather conditions, I could see a LOT better if I ran just
the fog lamps and parking lamps, but no headlights. I'm betting other
drivers probably would have no problem seeing my vehicle lit up that way,
either. However, it's illegal to drive that way, unfortunately. In fact,
on a side note, some states have laws stating that your headlamps must be on
if you even turn on your windshield wipers. Idiotic. -Dave