Derek
07-13-2003, 10:32 AM
"ROBT BECK" <robt.beck2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:WRVOa.69119$n%5.17024@nwrddc02.gnilink.net... Hi folks, I don't know if this is the appropriate forum but maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I got a speeding ticket in Chino, CA
a while back that I wish to fight in court. The officer was hiding in the
dark on private property where he couldn't be seen from the street and he was using radar. Are there any codes that he could have been violating (be specific please if you can)? Thanks for any help.
Most people learn that preparing a good defense is a waste of time and
energy, as you will see if you sit and watch some cases. Of course, if you
are or use a lawyer with the proper relation with the court, you have a good
chance of winning. In CA, Best chance to win is to delay, delay, and delay.
The longer you delay, the more likely the cop won't be available in court,
and then you win Also, ask for the officers notes through a discovery
motion and then when they are not provided, and he appears in court, tell
the judge they where not provided and have the case rescheduled for another
date (you need time to properly prepare with the notes you finally have).
If the cop shows up again, dismiss the judge (in CA, you can do that for any
reason that you think he is prejudiced against your interest). Remember --
in traffic cases you are not innocent until proven guilty -- the trials are
a sham and the main point is to efficiently generate revenue. Why else do
you think you are no longer given the right of jury trial? So don't waste
your time with a good defense, just do whatever it takes such that you get
the case dismissed when the officer does not show up.
Question for everyone: Does anyone now of a source that lists traffic
infraction fine amounts for various states and also objectively compares how
strict the cops are in pulling people over for infractions? That way, we
can at least choose to not live in and avoid states whose cops are most
likely to commit highway robbery. And for LEO's who actually believe their
ticketing makes a difference, providing such info may help keep what you see
as dangerous motorist out or your jurisdiction.
motocat
news:WRVOa.69119$n%5.17024@nwrddc02.gnilink.net... Hi folks, I don't know if this is the appropriate forum but maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I got a speeding ticket in Chino, CA
a while back that I wish to fight in court. The officer was hiding in the
dark on private property where he couldn't be seen from the street and he was using radar. Are there any codes that he could have been violating (be specific please if you can)? Thanks for any help.
Most people learn that preparing a good defense is a waste of time and
energy, as you will see if you sit and watch some cases. Of course, if you
are or use a lawyer with the proper relation with the court, you have a good
chance of winning. In CA, Best chance to win is to delay, delay, and delay.
The longer you delay, the more likely the cop won't be available in court,
and then you win Also, ask for the officers notes through a discovery
motion and then when they are not provided, and he appears in court, tell
the judge they where not provided and have the case rescheduled for another
date (you need time to properly prepare with the notes you finally have).
If the cop shows up again, dismiss the judge (in CA, you can do that for any
reason that you think he is prejudiced against your interest). Remember --
in traffic cases you are not innocent until proven guilty -- the trials are
a sham and the main point is to efficiently generate revenue. Why else do
you think you are no longer given the right of jury trial? So don't waste
your time with a good defense, just do whatever it takes such that you get
the case dismissed when the officer does not show up.
Question for everyone: Does anyone now of a source that lists traffic
infraction fine amounts for various states and also objectively compares how
strict the cops are in pulling people over for infractions? That way, we
can at least choose to not live in and avoid states whose cops are most
likely to commit highway robbery. And for LEO's who actually believe their
ticketing makes a difference, providing such info may help keep what you see
as dangerous motorist out or your jurisdiction.
motocat
