NC law states that no person shall posess, install or operate ANY blue light
on ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in this
state. The vehicle is subject to impound and operator is investigated for
impersonation of law enforcement offical.

Check with a Highway Patrol officer, they will know MV law in your state.

"John S. Ferris" <johnsferris@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lMZNa.20355$Ix2.9970@rwcrnsc54... My son has a car with blue neon lights under the car - a policeman told
him these were illegal to use while driving...subject to a $150.00 fine....
I've read the Texas transportation code, but can't find where this was
illegal... 547.305 , which I believe the policeman is referencing doesn't apply as these lights are not a "beacon, flashing or alternating light" and they
are not more than 300 candlepower nor striking the roadway more than 75 feet from the vehicle. Can anyone tell me the statute that makes the use of these lights illegal...there probably is one, but I can't find it - but them, I'm no Clarence Darrow! Thanks.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:11 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402"
<thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com>
NC law states that no person shall posess, install or operate ANY blue lighton ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in thisstate. The vehicle is subject to impound and operator is investigated forimpersonation of law enforcement offical.

I somehow don't think there would need to be much of an investigation
for impersonation of LEO for someone with this kind of lighting.
Check with a Highway Patrol officer, they will know MV law in your state."John S. Ferris" <johnsferris@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:lMZNa.20355$Ix2.9970@rwcrnsc54... My son has a car with blue neon lights under the car - a policeman toldhim these were illegal to use while driving...subject to a $150.00 fine....I've read the Texas transportation code, but can't find where this wasillegal... 547.305 , which I believe the policeman is referencing doesn't apply as these lights are not a "beacon, flashing or alternating light" and theyare not more than 300 candlepower nor striking the roadway more than 75 feet from the vehicle. Can anyone tell me the statute that makes the use of these lights illegal...there probably is one, but I can't find it - but them, I'm no Clarence Darrow! Thanks.

You will find that I do not post unless I am fairly certain that my
information is correct. I am reposting this statute just for you. After
you read it, please let me know how you interpret it.

PLEASE READ ON.
NC GS 20-130.1 (c)

(c) It is unlawful for any person to possess a blue light or
to install, activate, or operate a blue light in or on any
vehicle in this State, except for a publicly owned vehicle used
for law enforcement purposes or any other vehicle when used by
law enforcement officers in the performance of their official
duties.


Please refer to 14-277 (a)3 & (a)4, (b)4 & (b)5 below. Also note that (a)4
and
(b)5 are felony offenses.

NCGS
§ 14-277. Impersonation of a law-enforcement or other public
officer.
(a)No person shall falsely represent to another that he
is a sworn law-enforcement officer. As used in this section, a
person represents that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer if
he:
(1) Verbally informs another that he is a sworn
law-enforcement officer, whether or not the
representation refers to a particular agency;
(2) Displays any badge or identification signifying to
a reasonable individual that the person is a sworn
law-enforcement officer, whether or not the badge
or other identification refers to a particular
law-enforcement agency;
(3) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street,
highway or public vehicular area with an operating
red light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(a); or
(4) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street,
highway, or public vehicular area with an operating
blue light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(c).
(b) No person shall, while falsely representing to another
that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer, carry out any act in
accordance with the authority granted to a law-enforcement
officer. For purposes of this section, an act in accordance with
the authority granted to a law-enforcement officer includes:
(1) Ordering any person to remain at or leave from a
particular place or area;
(2) Detaining or arresting any person;
(3) Searching any vehicle, building, or premises,
whether public or private, with or without a search
warrant or administrative inspection warrant;
(4) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street
or highway or public vehicular area equipped with
an operating red light or siren in such a manner as
to cause a reasonable person to yield the
right-of-way or to stop his vehicle in obedience to
such red light or siren;
(5) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street
or highway or public vehicular area equipped with
an operating blue light in such a manner as to
cause a reasonable person to yield the right-of-way
or to stop his vehicle in obedience to such blue
light.
(c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit any person from
detaining another as provided by G.S. 15A-404 or assisting a
law-enforcement officer as provided by G.S. 15A-405.
(d) Repealed by Session Laws 1995 (Reg. Sess., 1996), c. 712,
s. 1.
(d1)Violations under this section are punishable as follows:
(1) A violation of subdivision (a)(1), (2), or (3) is a
Class 1 misdemeanor.
(2) A violation of subdivision (b)(1), (2), (3), or (4)
is a Class 1 misdemeanor. Notwithstanding the
disposition in G.S. 15A-1340.23, the court may
impose an intermediate punishment on a person
sentenced under this subdivision.
(3) A violation of subdivision (a)(4) is a Class I
felony.
(4) A violation of subdivision (b)(5) is a Class H
felony.

You are not a law enforcement officer are you? I won't argue laws of your
state with you if you give me the same respect!

You make me laugh! HA!

"zzz" <zzz@zzz.zzz> wrote in message
news:uai1hvosl5a8e3b4t2ppgv7epong12gdmh@4ax.com... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:11 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com>NC law states that no person shall posess, install or operate ANY blue
lighton ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in thisstate. The vehicle is subject to impound and operator is investigated
forimpersonation of law enforcement offical. I somehow don't think there would need to be much of an investigation for impersonation of LEO for someone with this kind of lighting.Check with a Highway Patrol officer, they will know MV law in your state."John S. Ferris" <johnsferris@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:lMZNa.20355$Ix2.9970@rwcrnsc54... My son has a car with blue neon lights under the car - a policeman toldhim these were illegal to use while driving...subject to a $150.00 fine....I've read the Texas transportation code, but can't find where this wasillegal... 547.305 , which I believe the policeman is referencing doesn't apply as these lights are not a "beacon, flashing or alternating light" and theyare not more than 300 candlepower nor striking the roadway more than 75
feet from the vehicle. Can anyone tell me the statute that makes the use of these lights illegal...there probably is one, but I can't find it - but them, I'm no Clarence Darrow! Thanks.

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:21:15 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402"
<thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com>
You will find that I do not post unless I am fairly certain that myinformation is correct. I am reposting this statute just for you. Afteryou read it, please let me know how you interpret it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - do you really think someone with under-car lights is
actually trying to impersonate a police officer?

If you do, maybe you would have to seriously investigate them, but I
fail to see how any reasonable person would mistake under-car lights for
law-enforcement.

Were you awake when you posted your reply?
PLEASE READ ON.NC GS 20-130.1 (c) (c) It is unlawful for any person to possess a blue light orto install, activate, or operate a blue light in or on anyvehicle in this State, except for a publicly owned vehicle usedfor law enforcement purposes or any other vehicle when used bylaw enforcement officers in the performance of their officialduties.Please refer to 14-277 (a)3 & (a)4, (b)4 & (b)5 below. Also note that (a)4and(b)5 are felony offenses.NCGS¤ 14-277. Impersonation of a law-enforcement or other public officer. (a)No person shall falsely represent to another that heis a sworn law-enforcement officer. As used in this section, aperson represents that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer ifhe: (1) Verbally informs another that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer, whether or not the representation refers to a particular agency; (2) Displays any badge or identification signifying to a reasonable individual that the person is a sworn law-enforcement officer, whether or not the badge or other identification refers to a particular law-enforcement agency; (3) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street, highway or public vehicular area with an operating red light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(a); or (4) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street, highway, or public vehicular area with an operating blue light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(c). (b) No person shall, while falsely representing to anotherthat he is a sworn law-enforcement officer, carry out any act inaccordance with the authority granted to a law-enforcementofficer. For purposes of this section, an act in accordance withthe authority granted to a law-enforcement officer includes: (1) Ordering any person to remain at or leave from a particular place or area; (2) Detaining or arresting any person; (3) Searching any vehicle, building, or premises, whether public or private, with or without a search warrant or administrative inspection warrant; (4) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street or highway or public vehicular area equipped with an operating red light or siren in such a manner as to cause a reasonable person to yield the right-of-way or to stop his vehicle in obedience to such red light or siren; (5) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street or highway or public vehicular area equipped with an operating blue light in such a manner as to cause a reasonable person to yield the right-of-way or to stop his vehicle in obedience to such blue light. (c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit any person fromdetaining another as provided by G.S. 15A-404 or assisting alaw-enforcement officer as provided by G.S. 15A-405. (d) Repealed by Session Laws 1995 (Reg. Sess., 1996), c. 712,s. 1. (d1)Violations under this section are punishable as follows: (1) A violation of subdivision (a)(1), (2), or (3) is a Class 1 misdemeanor. (2) A violation of subdivision (b)(1), (2), (3), or (4) is a Class 1 misdemeanor. Notwithstanding the disposition in G.S. 15A-1340.23, the court may impose an intermediate punishment on a person sentenced under this subdivision. (3) A violation of subdivision (a)(4) is a Class I felony. (4) A violation of subdivision (b)(5) is a Class H felony.You are not a law enforcement officer are you? I won't argue laws of yourstate with you if you give me the same respect!You make me laugh! HA!"zzz" <zzz@zzz.zzz> wrote in messagenews:uai1hvosl5a8e3b4t2ppgv7epong12gdmh@4ax .com... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:11 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com>NC law states that no person shall posess, install or operate ANY bluelighton ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in thisstate. The vehicle is subject to impound and operator is investigatedforimpersonation of law enforcement offical. I somehow don't think there would need to be much of an investigation for impersonation of LEO for someone with this kind of lighting.Check with a Highway Patrol officer, they will know MV law in your state."John S. Ferris" <johnsferris@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:lMZNa.20355$Ix2.9970@rwcrnsc54...> My son has a car with blue neon lights under the car - a policeman toldhim> these were illegal to use while driving...subject to a $150.00 fine....I've> read the Texas transportation code, but can't find where this wasillegal...> 547.305 , which I believe the policeman is referencing doesn't apply as> these lights are not a "beacon, flashing or alternating light" and theyare> not more than 300 candlepower nor striking the roadway more than 75feet> from the vehicle.> Can anyone tell me the statute that makes the use of these lights> illegal...there probably is one, but I can't find it - but them, I'm no> Clarence Darrow!>> Thanks.>>>

"zzz" <zzz@zzz.zzz> wrote in message
Yeah, yeah, yeah - do you really think someone with under-car lights is actually trying to impersonate a police officer? If you do, maybe you would have to seriously investigate them, but I fail to see how any reasonable person would mistake under-car lights for law-enforcement. Were you awake when you posted your reply?
I was going to ignore you, but I feel I should clarify something for you.

This original thread was a question regarding blue lights on a vehicle. I
stated the law here. I DO NOT RECALL SAYING THAT I WOULD INVESTIGATE,
ARREST OR EVEN CITE THE DRIVER. However, as I stated, the question was
about law not what I would do. I stated that in NC it is illegal to
"possess, install or operate ANY bluelight >on ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in this >state. "
I then posted that If a person is in possession of such a light
......."operator .. investigatedfor >impersonation of law enforcement offical."

I stated the law. A law that was written prior to the development of ground
effects lighting. Now the law my be out of date or even a bit
rediculous.....BUT it is still a crime.

To make this simple enough for you....She did not ask if there were any
officers here that would take action against the driver (which I would not).
SHE ASKED FOR THE LAW.

You seem to me to be a person that wants to be a law enforcement officer,
not enough nerve to try so you sit at home posting what you think is correct
and listening to a scanner.

HA HA

news:n023hv0n4osi0vsdsav6aonj6mud4l230i@4ax.com... On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:21:15 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com>You will find that I do not post unless I am fairly certain that myinformation is correct. I am reposting this statute just for you. Afteryou read it, please let me know how you interpret it. Yeah, yeah, yeah - do you really think someone with under-car lights is actually trying to impersonate a police officer? If you do, maybe you would have to seriously investigate them, but I fail to see how any reasonable person would mistake under-car lights for law-enforcement. Were you awake when you posted your reply?PLEASE READ ON.NC GS 20-130.1 (c) (c) It is unlawful for any person to possess a blue light orto install, activate, or operate a blue light in or on anyvehicle in this State, except for a publicly owned vehicle usedfor law enforcement purposes or any other vehicle when used bylaw enforcement officers in the performance of their officialduties.Please refer to 14-277 (a)3 & (a)4, (b)4 & (b)5 below. Also note that
(a)4and(b)5 are felony offenses.NCGS¤ 14-277. Impersonation of a law-enforcement or other public officer. (a)No person shall falsely represent to another that heis a sworn law-enforcement officer. As used in this section, aperson represents that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer ifhe: (1) Verbally informs another that he is a sworn law-enforcement officer, whether or not the representation refers to a particular agency; (2) Displays any badge or identification signifying to a reasonable individual that the person is a sworn law-enforcement officer, whether or not the badge or other identification refers to a particular law-enforcement agency; (3) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street, highway or public vehicular area with an operating red light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(a); or (4) Unlawfully operates a vehicle on a public street, highway, or public vehicular area with an operating blue light as defined in G.S. 20-130.1(c). (b) No person shall, while falsely representing to anotherthat he is a sworn law-enforcement officer, carry out any act inaccordance with the authority granted to a law-enforcementofficer. For purposes of this section, an act in accordance withthe authority granted to a law-enforcement officer includes: (1) Ordering any person to remain at or leave from a particular place or area; (2) Detaining or arresting any person; (3) Searching any vehicle, building, or premises, whether public or private, with or without a search warrant or administrative inspection warrant; (4) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street or highway or public vehicular area equipped with an operating red light or siren in such a manner as to cause a reasonable person to yield the right-of-way or to stop his vehicle in obedience to such red light or siren; (5) Unlawfully operating a vehicle on a public street or highway or public vehicular area equipped with an operating blue light in such a manner as to cause a reasonable person to yield the right-of-way or to stop his vehicle in obedience to such blue light. (c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit any person fromdetaining another as provided by G.S. 15A-404 or assisting alaw-enforcement officer as provided by G.S. 15A-405. (d) Repealed by Session Laws 1995 (Reg. Sess., 1996), c. 712,s. 1. (d1)Violations under this section are punishable as follows: (1) A violation of subdivision (a)(1), (2), or (3) is a Class 1 misdemeanor. (2) A violation of subdivision (b)(1), (2), (3), or (4) is a Class 1 misdemeanor. Notwithstanding the disposition in G.S. 15A-1340.23, the court may impose an intermediate punishment on a person sentenced under this subdivision. (3) A violation of subdivision (a)(4) is a Class I felony. (4) A violation of subdivision (b)(5) is a Class H felony.You are not a law enforcement officer are you? I won't argue laws of
yourstate with you if you give me the same respect!You make me laugh! HA!"zzz" <zzz@zzz.zzz> wrote in messagenews:uai1hvosl5a8e3b4t2ppgv7epong12gdmh@4ax .com... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:11 GMT, "Thin Blue Line402" <thin_blue_line402@yahoo.com> >NC law states that no person shall posess, install or operate ANY bluelight >on ANY vehicle to be operated on the public streets or highway in this >state. The vehicle is subject to impound and operator is investigatedfor >impersonation of law enforcement offical. > I somehow don't think there would need to be much of an investigation for impersonation of LEO for someone with this kind of lighting. >Check with a Highway Patrol officer, they will know MV law in your
state.

> >"John S. Ferris" <johnsferris@comcast.net> wrote in message >news:lMZNa.20355$Ix2.9970@rwcrnsc54... >> My son has a car with blue neon lights under the car - a policeman
told >him >> these were illegal to use while driving...subject to a $150.00
fine.... >I've >> read the Texas transportation code, but can't find where this was >illegal... >> 547.305 , which I believe the policeman is referencing doesn't apply
as >> these lights are not a "beacon, flashing or alternating light" and
they >are >> not more than 300 candlepower nor striking the roadway more than 75feet >> from the vehicle. >> Can anyone tell me the statute that makes the use of these lights >> illegal...there probably is one, but I can't find it - but them, I'm
no >> Clarence Darrow! >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >