sgroi@optonline.net (Andy) wrote in message news:<aec2032d.0306231446.3d581b6a@posting.google.com>... "Bob Kegel" <seventy 2002 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:<vf4rd72l6lflab@corp.supernews.com>... "Ivan H" <ivan_hendricks@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:i692fvsn88afpdg5smbhfj8n6bsvei49l2@4ax.com... My question. Should I contest it or should I just pay the amount. Do you qualify for traffic school diversion? See http://www.deschutescircuitcourt.org/Traffic/diversionapp.pdf for an idea of what the qualifications are. I would schedule a court date. Not to necissarily fight the ticket. But to plea bargain. In NJ if you get a stop sign summons (2 point) you can usually plea bargain it down to 0 points but pay a higher fine. So I would schedule the court date and speak to the prosecutor and see if you can plea bargain. If the officer is there that you got the summons from then he might have to agree to the plea bargain. As long as you didnt give him a hard time on the stop then you have a good chance.

Your sense of ethics astonishes me. I find it absolutely amazing that
you question whether you did the right thing by admitting to your
guilt on the stop. Maybe I could understand if the STOP sign was not
so clear in its instruction. But it is clear, and in your endeavor to
avoid paying for a violation that you clearly performed what other
transgressions are you willing to commit? If you contest the citation
as suggested above it is true that you may avoid part of the
retribution you owe. What about the officer who was just doing his
job? As you might can tell I'm an officer and I have to attend court
on my off days. Would you like to tell one of my children I missed an
important function in their life, because you don't want to accept
responsibility? I'm not perfect, and I have been stopped for traffic
violations, and if I receive a valid citation, I pay it.

wathrift@earthlink.net (W. A. Thrift) wrote in message news:<4553776.0306251407.40eceb55@posting.google.com>... sgroi@optonline.net (Andy) wrote in message news:<aec2032d.0306231446.3d581b6a@posting.google.com>... "Bob Kegel" <seventy 2002 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:<vf4rd72l6lflab@corp.supernews.com>... "Ivan H" <ivan_hendricks@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:i692fvsn88afpdg5smbhfj8n6bsvei49l2@4ax.com... > My question. Should I contest it or should I just pay the amount. Do you qualify for traffic school diversion? See http://www.deschutescircuitcourt.org/Traffic/diversionapp.pdf for an idea of what the qualifications are. I would schedule a court date. Not to necissarily fight the ticket. But to plea bargain. In NJ if you get a stop sign summons (2 point) you can usually plea bargain it down to 0 points but pay a higher fine. So I would schedule the court date and speak to the prosecutor and see if you can plea bargain. If the officer is there that you got the summons from then he might have to agree to the plea bargain. As long as you didnt give him a hard time on the stop then you have a good chance. Your sense of ethics astonishes me. I find it absolutely amazing that you question whether you did the right thing by admitting to your guilt on the stop. Maybe I could understand if the STOP sign was not so clear in its instruction. But it is clear, and in your endeavor to avoid paying for a violation that you clearly performed what other transgressions are you willing to commit? If you contest the citation as suggested above it is true that you may avoid part of the retribution you owe. What about the officer who was just doing his job? As you might can tell I'm an officer and I have to attend court on my off days. Would you like to tell one of my children I missed an important function in their life, because you don't want to accept responsibility? I'm not perfect, and I have been stopped for traffic violations, and if I receive a valid citation, I pay it.

Well I am also a cop. Sometimes people make mistakes. And in court
is where is it your right to try and plea bargain. Most of the time
the point of just getting the ticket and paying a fine is enough. But
when it comes down to getting points that can effect insurance rates
(NJ prob the highest in the country) that can really cost people in
the long run.

I also have to goto court on my days off, but that is part of the job.
I hear cops say that they hate parts of their jobs, working
midnights, shift work, forced overtime, but Cops chose their
profession like anyone else.
Court is a part of a cops job. Here i get paid overtime to goto
court. I dont know if that is the case for all other officers.

But going to court is not saying that you are not accepting
responsiblity for your actions. It is just stating that someone made
a mistake and would like to see if they can get a break.

And for your last comment...... well i wont comment on that!

Aren't you going to get paid for showing up to court,if so then what's
the problem?

malevocalist@webtv.net (Lamar) wrote in message news:<2506-3EFB8E3C-393@storefull-2151.public.lawson.webtv.net>... Aren't you going to get paid for showing up to court,if so then what's the problem?

Lamar, i do get paid to goto court.. I am not complaing about court.
Actually when I write someone a ticket (who was not being cooperative)
I usually get the type of answer of "I'll see you in court" and you
know what I say?? "THANK YOU" not realizing that for a municipal court
apperance I get 3 hours of overtime minimum..... Which equates to
about $160. So do that 2-3 times a month and it is pretty good....

c'mon--bullsh*$%-you know we don't get a citation. at least let's be honest.



"Andy" <sgroi@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:aec2032d.0306261615.333bb2@posting.google.com ... wathrift@earthlink.net (W. A. Thrift) wrote in message
news:<4553776.0306251407.40eceb55@posting.google.com>... sgroi@optonline.net (Andy) wrote in message
news:<aec2032d.0306231446.3d581b6a@posting.google.com>... "Bob Kegel" <seventy 2002 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:<vf4rd72l6lflab@corp.supernews.com>... > "Ivan H" <ivan_hendricks@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:i692fvsn88afpdg5smbhfj8n6bsvei49l2@4ax.com... > > > My question. Should I contest it or should I just pay the amount. > > Do you qualify for traffic school diversion? See > http://www.deschutescircuitcourt.org/Traffic/diversionapp.pdf for an
idea of > what the qualifications are. I would schedule a court date. Not to necissarily fight the ticket. But to plea bargain. In NJ if you get a stop sign summons (2 point) you can usually plea bargain it down to 0 points but pay a higher fine. So I would schedule the court date and speak to the prosecutor and see if you can plea bargain. If the officer is there that you got the summons from then he might have to agree to the plea bargain. As long as you didnt give him a hard time on the stop then you have a good chance. Your sense of ethics astonishes me. I find it absolutely amazing that you question whether you did the right thing by admitting to your guilt on the stop. Maybe I could understand if the STOP sign was not so clear in its instruction. But it is clear, and in your endeavor to avoid paying for a violation that you clearly performed what other transgressions are you willing to commit? If you contest the citation as suggested above it is true that you may avoid part of the retribution you owe. What about the officer who was just doing his job? As you might can tell I'm an officer and I have to attend court on my off days. Would you like to tell one of my children I missed an important function in their life, because you don't want to accept responsibility? I'm not perfect, and I have been stopped for traffic violations, and if I receive a valid citation, I pay it. Well I am also a cop. Sometimes people make mistakes. And in court is where is it your right to try and plea bargain. Most of the time the point of just getting the ticket and paying a fine is enough. But when it comes down to getting points that can effect insurance rates (NJ prob the highest in the country) that can really cost people in the long run. I also have to goto court on my days off, but that is part of the job. I hear cops say that they hate parts of their jobs, working midnights, shift work, forced overtime, but Cops chose their profession like anyone else. Court is a part of a cops job. Here i get paid overtime to goto court. I dont know if that is the case for all other officers. But going to court is not saying that you are not accepting responsiblity for your actions. It is just stating that someone made a mistake and would like to see if they can get a break. And for your last comment...... well i wont comment on that!