jaybird wrote: "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Zx4Ka.11777$e26.8837@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.ne t... In article <bV3Ka.12000$XV.996996@twister.austin.rr.com>, jaybird wrote: "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message> In article <RZ2Ka.11996$XV.987159@twister.austin.rr.com>, jaybird wrote:>> >> Now we get to the interesting part. Is their behaviour unreasonable> >> because they're breaking the law by speeding, or is the law that> >> they're breaking unreasonable?> >> > Neither, if in the context of it being necessary during work. Their> > behavior is not unreasonable because they're not breaking the law. And, the> > law is reasonable.>> Nice doublespeak. Well, if you want me to post one sentence per post I can do that for you next time. You've historically done that. Fact remains, it's hypocritical to get a ticket from a cop for cruising safely at say 80mph when that cop cruises at 85mph. It's not, and the reasons for that have been explained several times.

Yes it is. You haven't explained squat.

Why is 80 MPH "unsafe" for the average motorist but 90 MPH is "safe" for
a cop?

I've actually gotten a "safety" lecture at the side of the road for
driving 45 MPH on a straight, flat, empty, well lighted road in good
weather. (partial explanation, I was driving a new-to-me car and I
didn't realize my speedo was inaccurate. I thought I was going more
like 40-ish. However, I'm sure had I been assured that there were no
police present I would have felt safe at a much higher speed.)

nate

In article <vfi238e3j2u94c@corp.supernews.com>, Just a Cyclist wrote:
Why is 80 MPH "unsafe" for the average motorist but 90 MPH is "safe" for a cop?

First off.......what driving school do you have (besides drivers ed in high school) that gives you the expertise to drive under critical conditions?

You are x-posting to r.a.d. Many of the regulars have attented various
driving schools, clinics, etc. Some are also regular road racers and/or
autocrossers. Personally, the last one I was sunday. It was simple
low-level stuff but it was still fun. Driving a FWD really messed up
my times because I kept wanting to induce oversteer with the throttle ;)
Also what insurance company insures you......... I bet if they knew what you were saying ........you wouldn't have insurance with that company? Any bets?

Another worthless side tanget.

"Nathan Nagel" <njnagel@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3EF90BC0.3761C1AE@earthlink.net... Just a Cyclist wrote: "Nathan Nagel" <njnagel@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:3EF8F2F1.F5CAEEA8@earthlink.net... jaybird wrote: > > "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:Zx4Ka.11777$e26.8837@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.ne t... > > In article <bV3Ka.12000$XV.996996@twister.austin.rr.com>, jaybird wrote: > > > > > > "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >> In article <RZ2Ka.11996$XV.987159@twister.austin.rr.com>,
jaybird > wrote: > > >> > > >> >> Now we get to the interesting part. Is their behaviour unreasonable > > >> >> because they're breaking the law by speeding, or is the law
that > > >> >> they're breaking unreasonable? > > >> > > > >> > Neither, if in the context of it being necessary during work. Their > > >> > behavior is not unreasonable because they're not breaking the law. > And, > > > the > > >> > law is reasonable. > > >> > > >> Nice doublespeak. > > > > > > Well, if you want me to post one sentence per post I can do that
for you > > > next time. > > > > You've historically done that. > > > > Fact remains, it's hypocritical to get a ticket from a cop for cruising > > safely at say 80mph when that cop cruises at 85mph. > > It's not, and the reasons for that have been explained several
times. Yes it is. You haven't explained squat. Why is 80 MPH "unsafe" for the average motorist but 90 MPH is "safe"
for a cop? First off.......what driving school do you have (besides drivers ed in
high school) that gives you the expertise to drive under critical conditions? Also what insurance company insures you......... I bet if they knew what
you were saying ........you wouldn't have insurance with that company? Any bets? I've succesfully passed the Bridgestone Winter Driving School and also did a stint developing ABS software which was about 60% test track work. I've also done a little autocrossing when I've had the chance. I'd venture to say I'm better at handling a car in an emergency than your average police officer, and I tend to drive better machinery as well. I've actually gotten a "safety" lecture at the side of the road for driving 45 MPH on a straight, flat, empty, well lighted road in good weather. (partial explanation, I was driving a new-to-me car and I didn't realize my speedo was inaccurate. I thought I was going more like 40-ish. However, I'm sure had I been assured that there were no police present I would have felt safe at a much higher speed.) all that is, is paranoina......... *sigh* I never said all the cops were out to get me. I said that traffic cops are by and large hypocrites, which is a true statement.

No that's your opinion........does make it ture nate

"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b6d2dd6.0306250921.3f21214c@posting.google.c om... "Just a Cyclist" <popo@copwatch.com> wrote in message
news:<vfjav9dd8h3h55@corp.supernews.com>... "Nathan Nagel" <njnagel@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:3EF90BC0.3761C1AE@earthlink.net... Just a Cyclist wrote: > > "Nathan Nagel" <njnagel@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:3EF8F2F1.F5CAEEA8@earthlink.net... > > > > > > jaybird wrote: > > > > > > "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:Zx4Ka.11777$e26.8837@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.ne t... > > > > In article <bV3Ka.12000$XV.996996@twister.austin.rr.com>,
jaybird wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > >> In article <RZ2Ka.11996$XV.987159@twister.austin.rr.com>, jaybird wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> >> Now we get to the interesting part. Is their behaviour unreasonable > > > > >> >> because they're breaking the law by speeding, or is the
law that > > > > >> >> they're breaking unreasonable? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Neither, if in the context of it being necessary during
work. Their > > > > >> > behavior is not unreasonable because they're not breaking
the law. And, the > > > > >> > law is reasonable. > > > > >> > > > > >> Nice doublespeak. > > > > > > > > > > Well, if you want me to post one sentence per post I can do
that for you > > > > > next time. > > > > > > > > You've historically done that. > > > > > > > > Fact remains, it's hypocritical to get a ticket from a cop for cruising > > > > safely at say 80mph when that cop cruises at 85mph. > > > > > > It's not, and the reasons for that have been explained several times. > > > > Yes it is. You haven't explained squat. > > > > Why is 80 MPH "unsafe" for the average motorist but 90 MPH is
"safe" for > > a cop? > > First off.......what driving school do you have (besides drivers ed
in high > school) that gives you the expertise to drive under critical
conditions? > Also what insurance company insures you......... I bet if they knew
what you > were saying ........you wouldn't have insurance with that company? > Any bets? I've succesfully passed the Bridgestone Winter Driving School and also did a stint developing ABS software which was about 60% test track work. I've also done a little autocrossing when I've had the chance. I'd venture to say I'm better at handling a car in an emergency than your average police officer, and I tend to drive better machinery as well. > > > > I've actually gotten a "safety" lecture at the side of the road
for > > driving 45 MPH on a straight, flat, empty, well lighted road in
good > > weather. (partial explanation, I was driving a new-to-me car and
I > > didn't realize my speedo was inaccurate. I thought I was going
more > > like 40-ish. However, I'm sure had I been assured that there were
no > > police present I would have felt safe at a much higher speed.) > > all that is, is paranoina......... *sigh* I never said all the cops were out to get me. I said that traffic
cops are by and large hypocrites, which is a true statement. No that's your opinion........does make it ture I'm going to assume you meant to say "does that make it true" My answer: not necessarily, but how else would you explain officers ticketing drivers, and lecturing them on safety, for driving in a more conservative manner than the officers themselves drive?
I take you think all officers are that way.......which again is not true...
Oh there are bad apples in every barrel......
But generally no....... Hmmmm... it's either hypocrisy or... well, I can't think of another explanation.
I wouldn't expect you to think any differently...... nate

"Just a Cyclist" <popo@copwatch.com> wrote:
First off.......what driving school do you have (besides drivers ed in highschool) that gives you the expertise to drive under critical conditions?

That would be "schools." Though they are aimed more at vehicle control
than "critical conditions" (which is a term you can define to exclude those
with much more training, but less in some specific aspect of street driving
to eliminate everyone but cops).
Also what insurance company insures you......... I bet if they knew what youwere saying ........you wouldn't have insurance with that company?Any bets?

Sure. Take all the bets you want. They know I race my car. They know I
drive my car on a track in controlled situations for races, classes and
training. Perhaps you should learn more about the subject before talking
out your ***. Put a PDF of your insurance policy on a web site and link to
it here and let us know which paragraph or clause allows them to drop you
for stating that you break the law. Oh, wait, there isn't any. You are
just lying for effect. You sound like a cop. Lie to everyone and if they
can't figure out it is a lie then it is their own fault. Just ask jaybird.
He advocates lying. Must be a cop thing.

Marc
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