Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message
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Obviously it is about feeblemindedness, yours, you are still talking about "adopted children", people over 18 are not children, even if they are
adopted.


I didn't say they're still "children" - their age has nothing to do with it.
The circumstances have everything to do with it. They were given a chance
at a better life - a _real_ life with a _family_, yet to open up records you
are negating all the good that both the pregnant girl and the parents
attempted to give the child, by stepping right back ito the very same bad
situation that everyone tried to avoid in the first place. If you were
pulled out of the street right at the last minute when a car was coming, why
would you break away from the one that pulled you out, to run right back
into the street? Goodness no, you'd thank your lucky stars that someone gave
you a chance to live, and then head in the other direction away from the
street.

Anyway, how could someone who was not a tad feebleminded possibly have
written that, in the light of the experiences of all those jurisdictions that do
have open records.


Thats so typical of society becoming ever more liberal. Its all about the
adults and what _they_ want, no longer about protecting innocent kids.

Cynthia wrote: Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message news:42e5f0f6$0$18636$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...O bviously it is about feeblemindedness, yours, you are still talking about"adopted children", people over 18 are not children, even if they are adopted.


I didn't say they're still "children" - their age has nothing to do with it. The circumstances have everything to do with it.


Then stop using the word "children" none of us over the age of 18 are children.


They were given a chance at a better life - a _real_ life with a _family_, yet to open up records you are negating all the good that both the pregnant girl and the parents attempted to give the child, by stepping right back ito the very same bad situation that everyone tried to avoid in the first place. If you were pulled out of the street right at the last minute when a car was coming, why would you break away from the one that pulled you out, to run right back into the street? Goodness no, you'd thank your lucky stars that someone gave you a chance to live, and then head in the other direction away from the street.


What an utter load of old bollocks. If you expressed those ideas in front of an
adoption social worker here you'd have blown your chance of ever adopting, and
a darn good job too. The last thing an adopted kid needs is some idiot who sees
themself as on a rescue mission.

Anyway, how could someone who was not a tad feebleminded possibly have writtenthat, in the light of the experiences of all those jurisdictions that do haveopen records. Thats so typical of society becoming ever more liberal. Its all about the adults and what _they_ want, no longer about protecting innocent kids.


Well no, it's because that is what adopted people here and in other open
records jurisdictions want.

Permanently closed records never was about protecting kids, it has always been
about making it easier for a some adoptive parents to play the "let's pretend"
game, but those parents should never in a million years have been allowed to
adopt a child in the first place.

If you're too feebleminded to understand that every human being needs to know
about their origins, then you are far far too feebleminded to be allowed to
adopt a child.

You really honestly are a little bit feebleminded aren't you Cynthia, at least
when it come to adoption, go on admit it, you won't be first here. We've had
every brand of nutbar and fruitloop on the self pass this way once or twice at
some time or other and I can see you're determined to join the list.

Robin

Robin that just depends on what you call "origins". Not "every" human being
has some need to know their biological "origins". I see that some do, I see
that here in this computer group - but you sure can't say that all of them
do. Many adoptees (chlidren or when grown to adult) do not care about their
biological "origins".

Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message
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If you're too feebleminded to understand that every human being needs to
know about their origins, then you are far far too feebleminded to be allowed
to adopt a child.

"Cynthia" <cindymcgeemom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6qmdnVG6yJa1lnvfRVn-rA@comcast.com... Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message news:42e5f0f6$0$18636$14726298@news.sunsite.dk... Obviously it is about feeblemindedness, yours, you are still talking
about "adopted children", people over 18 are not children, even if they are adopted. I didn't say they're still "children" - their age has nothing to do with
it. The circumstances have everything to do with it. They were given a chance at a better life - a _real_ life with a _family_, yet to open up records
you are negating all the good that both the pregnant girl and the parents attempted to give the child, by stepping right back ito the very same bad situation that everyone tried to avoid in the first place.

Why so negative? Is this your insecurity talking? Granted my reunion with
my birthmother had a rocky start, but we correspond frequently and are happy
to know what's going on in each others lives.

If you were pulled out of the street right at the last minute when a car was coming,
why would you break away from the one that pulled you out, to run right back into the street? Goodness no, you'd thank your lucky stars that someone
gave you a chance to live, and then head in the other direction away from the street.

How telling that you acquaint reunion with a car wreck. Speaks volumes
about you.
Thats so typical of society becoming ever more liberal. Its all about the adults and what _they_ want, no longer about protecting innocent kids.

WHAT innocent kids? I was 40 when I searched for my bio family. I can
assure you that I was no "kid".
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"Cynthia" <cindymcgeemom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:N5OdnWs0QOgEu3vfRVn-iw@comcast.com... Robin that just depends on what you call "origins". Not "every" human
being has some need to know their biological "origins". I see that some do, I
see that here in this computer group - but you sure can't say that all of them do. Many adoptees (chlidren or when grown to adult) do not care about
their biological "origins".

And you know this how? Done a survey?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist

Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message news:42e61b46$0$18639$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...

If you're too feebleminded to understand that every human being needs to knowabout their origins, then you are far far too feebleminded to be allowed toadopt a child.


Cynthia wrote:
Robin that just depends on what you call "origins". Not "every" human being has some need to know their biological "origins". I see that some do, I see that here in this computer group - but you sure can't say that all of them do. Many adoptees (chlidren or when grown to adult) do not care about their biological "origins".


You should go find yourself a good dictionary, look up "need" and "want" and
consider the difference. Not everyone wants to know,though many change their
mind through life, everyone does need to know for the sake of their health if
nothing else. You're even more feebleminded about genetics than Jackie, never
thought anyone could be that feebleminded.

Robin

On the off chance that you're not a troll, Cynthia, try this on. Open
records has nothing to do with search and "reunion." It's about adoptees'
relationship with the state and being treated like everybody else legally.
Search and "reunion" is a relationship matter, access to one's birth records
is a legal matter. What one chooses to do with that record is a personal
choice and none of your business.

Marley

"Cynthia" <cindymcgeemom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:N5OdnWs0QOgEu3vfRVn-iw@comcast.com... Robin that just depends on what you call "origins". Not "every" human being has some need to know their biological "origins". I see that some do, I see that here in this computer group - but you sure can't say that all of them do. Many adoptees (chlidren or when grown to adult) do not care about their biological "origins". Robin <not@today.thanks> wrote in message news:42e61b46$0$18639$14726298@news.sunsite.dk... If you're too feebleminded to understand that every human being needs to know about their origins, then you are far far too feebleminded to be allowed to adopt a child.

With all due respect this is utter nonsense. A woman made a series of
decisions which led, ultimately, to her placing her child up for adoption.
The child is, in effect, being punished because his mother cannot or chooses
not to keep him or her. I am well past the half century mark and my
bio-parents (if they are alive) are past 80. I have done all the things that
a good citizen should do and I have been places and seen things that most
people only hear about. Who, exactly, will suffer if my adoption records, a
very real part of my life, were to be finally given to me? Do you feel that
I could not face whatever the horrid truth might be? Every family has its
skeletons and only the deluded think otherwise. In effect I am still being
punished as are my children and grand children. What is this accomplishing?

Raymond

I didn't say they're still "children" - their age has nothing to do with it. The circumstances have everything to do with it. They were given a chance at a better life - a _real_ life with a _family_, yet to open up records you are negating all the good that both the pregnant girl and the parents attempted to give the child, by stepping right back ito the very same bad situation that everyone tried to avoid in the first place. If you were pulled out of the street right at the last minute when a car was coming, why would you break away from the one that pulled you out, to run right back into the street? Goodness no, you'd thank your lucky stars that someone gave you a chance to live, and then head in the other direction away from the street. Anyway, how could someone who was not a tad feebleminded possibly have written that, in the light of the experiences of all those jurisdictions that do have open records. Thats so typical of society becoming ever more liberal. Its all about the adults and what _they_ want, no longer about protecting innocent kids.