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dutchman2001nl 12-20-2003, 05:37 AM I'm a bit confused, and curious too. Now that our paperwork is being sent to NVC, what happens to it there? Is that like a security check? -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Hypertweeky 12-20-2003, 05:44 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl I'm a bit confused, and curious too. Now that our paperwork is being sent to NVC, what happens to it there? Is that like a security check? Hey Dutch!! Good afternoon:) You beated me to it this time:)!!, I asked my lawyer yesterday but I havent got a response yet, can someone help us please?? Dutch and I are on our way wooohhhh wooohhhhhh :):) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 05:51 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl I'm a bit confused, and curious too. Now that our paperwork is being sent to NVC, what happens to it there? Is that like a security check? NVC is sort of a "holding tank" for your file while they send out for the FBI security check. NVC sends out a request, FBI looks it up, then sends a report back to NVC. When NVC receives the OK from FBI, NVC sends the file on to the embassy, and then the embassy sends out Packet 3. That's my undersanding of the process, anyway :-) Rene -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com dutchman2001nl 12-20-2003, 05:52 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 NVC is sort of a "holding tank" for your file while they send out for the FBI security check. NVC sends out a request, FBI looks it up, then sends a report back to NVC. When NVC receives the OK from FBI, NVC sends the file on to the embassy, and then the embassy sends out Packet 3. That's my undersanding of the process, anyway :-) Rene Ok, thanks Noorah : -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Hypertweeky 12-20-2003, 05:58 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 NVC is sort of a "holding tank" for your file while they send out for the FBI security check. NVC sends out a request, FBI looks it up, then sends a report back to NVC. When NVC receives the OK from FBI, NVC sends the file on to the embassy, and then the embassy sends out Packet 3. That's my undersanding of the process, anyway :-) Rene Hey Rene!!! Good afternoon (Morning there:):) ) How are you doing?? That explanation was great!!, I can now explain my hubby what the heck they do to our file there lol. :) Have a fab weekend!!! -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:00 AM Originally posted by Hypertweeky Hey Rene!!! Good afternoon (Morning there:):) ) How are you doing?? That explanation was great!!, I can now explain my hubby what the heck they do to our file there lol. :) Have a fab weekend!!! Good Morning Hyper! I'm doing great. Awake way too early, though! lol Glad I could be of help :-) Rene Yesterday was great, too! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Hypertweeky 12-20-2003, 06:06 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 Good Morning Hyper! I'm doing great. Awake way too early, though! lol Glad I could be of help :-) Rene Yesterday was great, too! :-) I am glad your B-day went great even though you couldnt go out to dinner with your sister, but you are going to dinner tonight right??. Just in case nobody knows.. It was Rene´s B-day yesterday!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :):) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com dutchman2001nl 12-20-2003, 06:08 AM Originally posted by Hypertweeky I am glad your B-day went great even though you couldnt go out to dinner with your sister, but you are going to dinner tonight right??. Just in case nobody knows.. It was Rene´s B-day yesterday!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :):) Happy Birthday, Rene...... :D -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:13 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl Happy Birthday, Rene...... :D Thank you, guys :-) I was really hoping Sadegh would have been here for my birthday, Christmas, New Years....this time of year everything happens, and it's the loneliest time of year for me. But, inshallah, next year we'll do all this stuff together :-) In the meantime, I have wonderful friends, both in real life and here in the NG, that continually keep my spirits up. I love you all :-) Rene p.s. I turned 39 for the 6th time. LOL -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Karen D 12-20-2003, 06:14 AM Originally posted by Hypertweeky Just in case nobody knows.. It was Rene´s B-day yesterday!! Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday dear Rene Happy Birthday to you!! :D:D:D -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:17 AM Originally posted by Karen D Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday dear Rene Happy Birthday to you!! :D:D:D Awwww, thanks Karen :-) You sang that right on-key too, I love it! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Karen D 12-20-2003, 06:20 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 I turned 39 for the 6th time. LOL LOL! :D Can you teach me how to do that? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaasseee? :D -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com sibsie 12-20-2003, 06:25 AM Happy birthday to yoooooooooooooooooou. I spent my last birthday thinking I was 37. It must have been one of my blonder years as I was actually only 35 but went round telling people I was 36. :confused: I realised my error about 6 months after my birthday. Right time for me to hit the shops. -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:26 AM Originally posted by Karen D LOL! :D Can you teach me how to do that? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaasseee? :D LOL....you bet! But you don't look like you're anywhere near needing that little trick yet!! -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:29 AM Originally posted by sibsie Happy birthday to yoooooooooooooooooou. I spent my last birthday thinking I was 37. It must have been one of my blonder years as I was actually only 35 but went round telling people I was 36. :confused: I realised my error about 6 months after my birthday. Right time for me to hit the shops. Thank you, Sibsie....I think late 30's are a confusing time, anyway! Your brain just takes a leave of absence! I know the feeling! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:31 AM Karen, I noticed in your profile that birthdays aren't even applicable to you! Weren't you supposed to write "none" in there??? LOLOL -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Karen D 12-20-2003, 06:32 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 Karen, I noticed in your profile that birthdays aren't even applicable to you! Weren't you supposed to write "none" in there??? LOLOL I think so... BE sent me an RFE shortly after joining... :rolleyes: -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Rete 12-20-2003, 06:37 AM Originally posted by Noorah101 Rene p.s. I turned 39 for the 6th time. LOL Jim would look at it this way: It is the 16th anniversary of your 29th birthday. Rete -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 06:47 AM Originally posted by Rete Jim would look at it this way: It is the 16th anniversary of your 29th birthday. Rete Hey, that works!! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Folinskyinla 12-20-2003, 06:51 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl I'm a bit confused, and curious too. Now that our paperwork is being sent to NVC, what happens to it there? Is that like a security check? Hi: NVC's functions have been expanding over the years. Before 1989, all approved petitions were forwarded directly to the Consulates by the INS. This was true for both immigrant and non- immigrant petitions. Since many petitions would be in backlogged categories, this lead to approved petitoins sitting overseas in the consulates for many years. This had two problems. One was for secuirty of the petitions. In the early 1980's we would often have problems in recreating petition files for Iranians whose aproved petitions had reached Tehran before November 4, 1979. But more important, it was EXSPENSIVE storing the files abroad. Storage space in the US was cheap. So was born the "Trasitional Immigrant Visa Processing Center" or "TIVPC" in Virginia. In 1994, the National Visa Center was established on the grounds of the former Pease Air Force Base in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. [New Hampshire would be landlocked but for the city of Portsmouth]. NVC took over from TIVPC. For years, NVC was simply a storage facility. They would set up the IVACS file. When the file was close to visa availablity [which was immediately for "immediate relatives" such as citizens of spouses], they would send out packet 3 and forward the file to the consulate. The completed packet 3 would be sent by the applicant to the consulate. IOW, the former processing system was followed but with the file retained on US soil until it acutally had to be worked for visa issuance. A few years back, NVC started taking on more of the preliminary processing. They now handle the I-864 and evaluate them. This makes sense in that, by definition, an I-864 comes from reisdents of the US. They then started doing other preliminary processing. The idea was to relieve the overseas consulates of lot of the preliminary scut work involved in visa issuance. Now, for you "K" visa people out there, the NVC was never directly involved. They don't process them. The former INS would send the approved I-129F's directly to the consulate in question. However, this was problematic. If you go through the archives, until a year a go, people would ***** about the delays in approved visa petitions getting out of the Service Centers. The problem was that various volume loads and methods of tansmission. For example, Seoul and London had high volume and they were on the US Military Postal System ["APO" and "FPO"] which could be treated as domestic mail. That trasmission system was quite good. [Our office found that although a first class stamp took 10 days to reach the consulate, it was handled efficiently in the consulate in Seoul and there was ONE day benefit to using DHL]. However, lets say the approved petition was going to Ouagadougou. That was a different matter. So whats happened within the last year or so is that CIS and State reached an agreement. It was simply easier and more efficient for the SC's to simply send ALL approved I-129F's to ONE location -- that of NVC. And after all, NVC exists just for the purpose of getting stuff out to the consulates. In the case of K petitons, my understanding is that NVC is a mere conduit. I would not be surprise though to see if they check to see if the I-130 has already passed though, but that is speculation on my part. Overall, I think this is a general improvement in the process. However, that said, in individual cases for consulates with high volume and excellent shipping links to the US, this has lead to a slight delay in processing by introducing an extra step. When you are counting each day in an individual case, that is annoying, for sure. But overall, I wish the CIS service centers were as efficient as NVC. -- Certified Specialist Immigration & Nat. Law Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization Posted via http://britishexpats.com sphyrapicus 12-20-2003, 08:17 AM Originally posted by Folinskyinla But overall, I wish the CIS service centers were as efficient as NVC. I think this is the first time I have ever seen the word "efficient" in the same sentence as "service centers"!!! :D:D:D -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Clare & Steven 12-20-2003, 08:44 AM I LOVE that one Rete!! I say I'm 29 with 14 years of experience :D Originally posted by Rete Jim would look at it this way: It is the 16th anniversary of your 29th birthday. Rete -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com dutchman2001nl 12-20-2003, 09:10 AM Thank you for explaining this, Folinskyinla.... Take care.. :) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 10:46 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl Thank you for explaining this, Folinskyinla.... Take care.. :) Yes, thanks Folinskyinla, that is the most comprehensive description I've heard of NVC's role in all this. Thanks for the info! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Matthew Udall 12-20-2003, 03:50 PM Originally posted by Noorah101 Yes, thanks Folinskyinla, that is the most comprehensive description I've heard of NVC's role in all this. Thanks for the info! :-) I've been saying the same thing here in the group for years now... "In the case of K petitons, my understanding is that NVC is a mere conduit". I've also speculated about the subject of the NVC doing security checks (my speculation is that they don't as I've not heard about it, but I suppose they might be doing something new I’ve yet to hear about). The way the Ombudsman at the CSC explained it to me, is that "all" I- 129f’s from the CSC get shipped to the Consulate via the NVC. At the NVC, they have bins set up for each post. When a file arrives to the NVC, they simply place it in the appropriate bin. Once the bin gets full enough to ship it off, that is what they do. Now for posts that would take a heck of a long time for the bin to fill up (Antananarivo, Madasgar for example.... I've processed two K-1 cases through that post now), the Ombudsman thought they ship out those bins every month or so just because if they had to wait for the bin to fill up that would take too long. For other posts where the bins fill up more quickly, he said, "if you are lucky, your file gets put on the top of a bin that is full, so it will be shipped very soon... if you are not lucky your file gets put into an empty bin that first has to fill up before shipping to the consulate". To me, this explains why there is a difference in the speed in which cases arrive to a particular post. -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com cutenurse300 12-20-2003, 04:16 PM Hi Dutchman, We called this week the NVC,but they didn t received our case so far..the lady on the phone said it usualy takes about 3 weeks to go trough the NVC (we got our approval dec 9 from BCIS),so hoping to have this done soon!! -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Noorah101 12-20-2003, 08:04 PM Originally posted by Matthew Udall I've been saying the same thing here in the group for years now... "In the case of K petitons, my understanding is that NVC is a mere conduit". I've also speculated about the subject of the NVC doing security checks (my speculation is that they don't as I've not heard about it, but I suppose they might be doing something new I’ve yet to hear about). The way the Ombudsman at the CSC explained it to me, is that "all" I- 129f’s from the CSC get shipped to the Consulate via the NVC. At the NVC, they have bins set up for each post. When a file arrives to the NVC, they simply place it in the appropriate bin. Once the bin gets full enough to ship it off, that is what they do. Now for posts that would take a heck of a long time for the bin to fill up (Antananarivo, Madasgar for example.... I've processed two K-1 cases through that post now), the Ombudsman thought they ship out those bins every month or so just because if they had to wait for the bin to fill up that would take too long. For other posts where the bins fill up more quickly, he said, "if you are lucky, your file gets put on the top of a bin that is full, so it will be shipped very soon... if you are not lucky your file gets put into an empty bin that first has to fill up before shipping to the consulate". To me, this explains why there is a difference in the speed in which cases arrive to a particular post. OOPS!! :-) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Folinskyinla 12-20-2003, 08:10 PM Originally posted by Matthew Udall Now for posts that would take a heck of a long time for the bin to fill up (Antananarivo, Madasgar for example.... I've processed two K-1 cases through that post now), the Ombudsman thought they ship out those bins every month or so just because if they had to wait for the bin to fill up that would take too long. Hi Matt: What's your experience been with Ouagadougou? -- Certified Specialist Immigration & Nat. Law Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization Posted via http://britishexpats.com dutchman2001nl 12-21-2003, 04:52 AM Originally posted by cutenurse300 Hi Dutchman, We called this week the NVC,but they didn t received our case so far..the lady on the phone said it usualy takes about 3 weeks to go trough the NVC (we got our approval dec 9 from BCIS),so hoping to have this done soon!! Let's hope it goes fast. :) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com Hypertweeky 12-21-2003, 10:56 AM Originally posted by dutchman2001nl Let's hope it goes fast. :) I hope so too:):) Thanks for the explanation Mr Folinskyinla:) -- Posted via http://britishexpats.com |
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