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bsierras
04-22-2008, 02:25 PM
So stressed please advise. I have been very patient with this situation and I don't know where to go. I even asked for my situation be told to an attorney for advice and still awaiting an answer.

I was threatened by an employee in front of a law-binding officer. I know I could of pressed charges on this individual for a terrorist charges and let it be done, but I didn't do so because she is nineteen and I didn't want her life to be messed up with a crime like this on her record and to start off her life. I left my trust with my employer to handle the situation and fire her. After the investigation was completed, but not done thoroughly, they decided it wasn't a reason to fire her from work. She continued to antgonize me when we worked together. Being her supervisor, I was given a verbal notice on how to talk to her. Then my schedule was compromised to accommodate her. I was told that we couldn't work together. To make the story short. I was transferred from my location to a different location.

I tried to upload the doc as an attachment, but my system wasn't able to. So, I am pasting it along with this request. This is the statement that was given to Loss Prevention of my employer. It is not edited and was typed quickly. So there are many typos.

On, 2/26/08 at around 11:45 p.m I asked Tori to work out the suglasses overstock as requested. Her reposnse was I'll do it if I can because Mr. Allen wanted me to face. I said I understood, however, that it is on the list, too. As talking to her in front of Rhonda she is walking away. I then had to page her to front to continue with the assignments. She stated I am doing my job, I am doing my job. Thank you thank you. Whereas, that wasn't a question. I then stated that we also had outs to work out if she could get the ones for her section. Again, as I was talking to her as she was walking away. So, I had to walk up to her and finish giving the assignments to her on what needed to get done. She stated again, I am doing my job, I am doing my job. Thank you thank you. I then stated that if she would also dust the shelves strips. She then told me disrespectfully to leave her alone that she is doing her job thank you thank you. I responded that that if she she didn't drop her attitude she was going to have to go home. She responded that she wasn't leaving and that she is doing her job. Later, as I was working on the Easter in the promo section I hear her talking to Rhonda about swapping duties, whereas she didn't want to do the sunglasses and she would do the restroom and breakroom. I found no problem with it and didn't remark on it. As I was moving the dog beds to the cartwell, I again find Tori at Reg 1 talking to Rhonda drinking a soda stating "what did he get". With these vocubalaries, I assume someone was being watched. So I asked what was wrong. She then states to me with a sharp voice "can I talk to you in the office" , sure i said. As soon as I walked inside she started yelling at me. I asked her to lower her voice and to calm down. But she kept on, so I asked her to punch out and go home. She then stated that what I am doing is retaliation. I gave her two opportunities to drop her attitude towards me. She refused so I asked her to punch out, she said no she wasn't that she was staying. I told her she was not allow to and that I was going to punch her out, regardless. She then states to me how mr. allen was going to reverse the punch the time and that she was going to continue facing. I told her she didn't have to and go home. She then started threating me about Employee Relations and how she was going to get me fired. I then had to ask Office Garcia to escort her out. We then walked up to her on aisle 10 and stated she had to leave and that Officer Garcia was going to have to escort her off premises. As we were walking, Officer Garcia asked if he needed to drive her. She then responded with a command he is going to have to because I am not going to be walking the streets. I stated no, that he is not allow to leave the premises, but that she could wait in the breakroom. She kept on and on with vocabulary where it lead her to state "you are an ***" and "just wait in the morning". She stated she could say this because she was off the clock. She kept on stated how "I was going to get it in the morning" in front of Officer Garcia. Rhonda had called for a code 1, I walked away to assist and returned to the office where she was standing in the walkway of the door to the hallway. Then she started up with me againg by stating to me "Don't play me" for at least 4 times at once, and I told her are you threatening me. Her response was I am off the clock, I can say it. I then asked Officer Garcia to escort her outside. As I was walking to Rhonda with change she called me a "*****" in front of a customer and Rhonda and continued stating "don't play me" along with other statements that I couldn't hear clearly. I asked her again if she was threating me. She then stated that is a threat as she was being escorted by Officer Garcia outside.

cyjeff
04-22-2008, 02:35 PM
I am not going to wade through that.

If you are being threatened, call the police.

If you told your superiors and they solved the problem, their job is done. Because it wasn't solved the way you want it to be solved doesn't matter.

From what I did read, you supervise the person that threatened you. Why didn't YOU fire her?

bsierras
04-22-2008, 02:47 PM
Thanks for your quick response.

For one that has had a record in the past knows how hard to live life and find a descent employment. If I didn't have somewhat a conscience, I would of done it immediately. And I didn't fire her because unfortunately we have red tape to go through.

And this is not the first situation as well. I reported to my manager that an employee's kin threaten me on the salesfloor. This employee wasn't counseled or spoken to for almost four weeks. this was three weeks before this incident. I am frustrated and would like to seek another career. But I have but to much time into this company that has value. Stock, retirement, etc. And again, because of my record, it is really hard to find a job. I am almost 40yrs of age and couldn't finish my education for a degree because of this job, it is really hard to find another job.

I just want to be left alone and allow me to do my job effiencently as I always do. I have high recommendations from my previous employer and I can't believe how my life has been since I took this offer. I have been stressed out, can't sleep, cry alone, and keep telling myself that it is going to be okay. But now being transferred to another store that is low in volume will reflect my annual bonus.

I am lost. .....

bsierras
04-22-2008, 03:03 PM
I was also told once by my employer that I shouldn't put the two incidents together because then I would be stating I am prejudice against their race. I am the only race as management in my store, and since I have been there I have been disrespected, lied upon and everything else I have stated earlier. How is that I could be prejudice against their race?

Doesn't "Psychological Violence in the Workplace" fall under what I am going through?

Again, thanks earlier for your response.

cyjeff
04-22-2008, 05:24 PM
There is no legal attachment to "Psycological Violence in the Workplace".

Certain things are no brainers when you are a manager.

If someone threatens management, that falls under insubordination... and is subject for immediate termination.

Pattymd
04-23-2008, 01:44 AM
If someone threatens management, that falls under insubordination... and is subject for immediate termination.

I think the next time I'm in a supervisory position, I'll threaten to manage and see what happens. :p :rolleyes:

cyjeff
04-23-2008, 08:30 AM
I think the next time I'm in a supervisory position, I'll threaten to manage and see what happens. :p :rolleyes:

I recommend against doing it to me if you are my subordinate.

That just means you get a very long vacation and a box of your stuff mailed to you.

If you are lucky, I will let you go back to your desk for your car keys.

Pattymd
04-23-2008, 09:47 AM
I recommend against doing it to me if you are my subordinate.

That just means you get a very long vacation and a box of your stuff mailed to you.

If you are lucky, I will let you go back to your desk for your car keys.


OK. I'll wait until I'm promoted to manager, THEN I'll threaten to manage. Until then, I'll just threaten to supervise. :D :rolleyes:

cyjeff
04-23-2008, 09:57 AM
OK. I'll wait until I'm promoted to manager, THEN I'll threaten to manage. Until then, I'll just threaten to supervise. :D :rolleyes:

OHHHH... I thought you said "threaten the manager".

Threaten to manage is different... I think...

bsierras
04-23-2008, 04:42 PM
Hey, thanks for cheering me up.:) :) However, that doesn't fix the problem. I finally had a meeting with the DM regarding the whole situation. His final words were. Allow things to happen, look the other way, for there are more major important things to do. Like take care the store.

Now, I am really confused on why I have this title. So, if they don't care about shrink, why should I? Right. If I am getting paid twice as much as a clerk and I am doing the same thing they are doing. Well, then I should look the other way. That doesn't mean I lost my integrity. Does it?

Pattymd
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Glad we could make you laugh, at least. Sometimes we get a little silly. ;)

No, it doesn't mean you've lost your integrity in the least. You've pointed out issues. The boss has said what your primary focus should be. Although I agree that it's hard to have the "title" if they don't let you manage like the title implies, it does get frustrating (I know, been there, done that, got the t-shirt). And if things aren't going to change in the foreseeable future, you may want to dust off the resume and start looking for other opportunities. In the meantime, if they want to pay you a manager's salary to count paper clips, so be it. :D

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