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Honners
06-06-2007, 10:37 AM
I did it!! He owes 24K and wants it reduced to $250.00 per month, and for me to pay his collection agency off....(that part really pissed me off).

So, I filed a contempt/judgment motion with the courthouse yesterday...took me 2 weeks or so to figure out all the paperwork, lawyers (well, good ones) definately deserve their money. Had to file 5 copies of everything, so far it cost me $10 to go to the court facilitator and get advice...Will let you know if it works out or not.
When I went to file, I found out that his attorney
1. changed the court date,
2. supposedly mailed me that info (in April, never recvd. a THING) and
3. moved it to a day and court room that, according to the clerk, "is not for the public - I can't put you on the docket"

I had to literally run all the way down a hall, okay, it started as a walk, but a very BRISK walk - to the end, get my paperwork stamped, who told me to go down to the PA's office and clear it with them (had already via phone). So, outside, down 2 blocks around the corner, they tell me to go back to courthouse, 2nd floor courtroom, long hall, etc. who tells me to go back downstairs - main entry area and turn in paperwork, who tells me, again, that they can not put me on this docket, who tells me to go back down long hall way - get new stamp - who tells me to go back to main entry and turn in paperwork, who I convince TO put me on the docket, who tells me to go back outside, down 2 blocks to PA's office and give them a copy...All this in 45 minutes and high heels! Somewhat like a physical voice mail hell-thing.

I wish I could have seen his face when he got served and when he actually reads the paperwork, where I spelled it all out that he has hidden assests and debt, harassed me, given out my unlisted number, had his free attorney threaten me with contempt charges," (the kids, older teens, refused to go on his drug deals with him - so I 'm the guilty one) "our cars damaged, our home vandalized, he sent his friends over to steal from us, he has driven by our house and yelled at the children, and he is continually on our property leaving notes in our mailbox, in spite of a restraining order."


I'll bet you his lawyer thought she could sail through with his stuff, and that I wouldn't even know what hit me....

I asked for the following (abbreviated)....12% interest be added to all support arrears effective date of divorce. med. and atty’s fees + interest added to the judgment. Wage withholding remain at 50% paid in full. cease supplying creditors with any contact information. contact collection agency immediately and make payment arrangements with them to pay his balance in full, Pay whatever else he owes prior to divorce.

I found out he wrote an NSF check 2 days after the seperation paperwork, but officially on my account....how in the hell did he do that?

Anyway, I asked for everything I could think of, but I don't know how to ask for the kids' toys back - I figure they've outgrown them anyway...

I feel so empowered! With sore feet! Well, wanted to share, and will keep you all posted, ps, thank you so much for all the advice.

xena
06-06-2007, 12:42 PM
That's great, it really does feel good to be making progress, doesn't it?

Please keep us updated on how things are going. BTW- any CS problems can be taken to your state's CSE agency, they work slow, but most of the time they get things done.

Zephyr
06-06-2007, 12:54 PM
GOOD WORK!!!

was it Ginger Rogers that said women can do everything that men can but they're expected to do it backwards and in high heels? You are all woman!!!

MissingStepkids
06-07-2007, 05:24 AM
If anyone saw me walking in high heels, they would probably think I was drunk.

Honners
06-07-2007, 09:32 AM
BTW- any CS problems can be taken to your state's CSE agency, they work slow, but most of the time they get things done.

Actually, my CS case worker is great! - He has stayed on top of this case since the begining, everytime he CAN get the ex in jail, the ex would pay one month of support. It was the PA's office who refused to put him in jail, I had to fight them like crazy with proof that jail was effective...Took talking to every political bigwig in the state to get the PA to do his job, (even crashed a party :D) he's gone/left/fired? :) now. Everyone seems to be happy about that too. Wonder who else he pissed off?
ANYWAY, my CS guy was the one who told me that I could file for interest (apparently they can't initiate that from their office, they can only follow orders already in place) and then when I told him that I was going to do it, told me to ask for interest from the original date of judgement, which I didn't even know you could do....
...Hey, does anyone know how to research out a judge? I've been in front of one before, I can't remember his name, who wouldn't let my divorce become final because my ex refused to show up for court. Had to wait another day and go in front of a different judge.

Honners
06-07-2007, 09:36 AM
If anyone saw me walking in high heels, they would probably think I was drunk.

HA! - I actually had a pair of high heels that I could barely walk in (first thing I bought after I left the ex, he was short, I'm almost 6' in these - wore flats for 20 years, now, you can't MAKE me wear them) ANYWAY - went out with the girlfriends, had a couple of marg's, and was able to walk PERFECTLY in these shoes....ended up spending the night at girlfriends house so as not to drive home, go to leave her house, 5am, have to put on the shoes again, and CAN'T WALK AGAIN....Conclusion, some shoes need to be drunk in.:p

xena
06-07-2007, 05:48 PM
Actually, my CS case worker is great! - He has stayed on top of this case since the begining, everytime he CAN get the ex in jail, the ex would pay one month of support. It was the PA's office who refused to put him in jail, I had to fight them like crazy with proof that jail was effective...Took talking to every political bigwig in the state to get the PA to do his job, (even crashed a party :D) he's gone/left/fired? :) now. Everyone seems to be happy about that too. Wonder who else he pissed off?
ANYWAY, my CS guy was the one who told me that I could file for interest (apparently they can't initiate that from their office, they can only follow orders already in place) and then when I told him that I was going to do it, told me to ask for interest from the original date of judgement, which I didn't even know you could do....
...Hey, does anyone know how to research out a judge? I've been in front of one before, I can't remember his name, who wouldn't let my divorce become final because my ex refused to show up for court. Had to wait another day and go in front of a different judge.

The best way to research what a particular Judge has done is to spend a few hours at the courthouse reading through cases that Judge has heard. It takes a little time, but you can sure get a good idea of what type of Judge you'll have.

Another possibilty is to research how many of that Judge's decisions have been overturned by the appellate court, but that's much harder to do.
Other than those 2 things, I don't think there's any other way to find out about a Judge, maybe someone else will have a better idea for you.

Honners
06-07-2007, 08:06 PM
HAHA! - Just went down the the county court house and got copies of the judgment, HE HAD A SECRET BANK ACCOUNT! - part of my argument is that he has hidden assets - both during the marriage and after...now I have proof - Also, he had told child support that he got fired from his last job, and it clearly says that HE QUIT! HAHA HAHA.

Almost makes it worth the !$#$

turbowray
06-08-2007, 12:29 AM
WooHoo! It is great when you go after what you need, and you get it! Your getting closer, and making great progress! Hope your feet are doing ok now! Keep us posted!

This site may help, I can't swear, but it is where someone would file a complaint against a judge, if I am reading it right.

http://www.cjc.state.wa.us/search/

Honners
06-08-2007, 08:56 AM
Thanks! - At least there are no complaints against this guy!

Honners
06-26-2007, 08:49 AM
Well, back to square one, and I have to get an attorney. And just like every other time the ex ends up in court, we had our tires flattened again. In the driveway. Overnight. Screws put in the tires. Amazing. ALWAYS happens at night, with screws, in the driveway. Of course, we can't prove it is the ex. It could be a complete coincidence. Yeah, that's right...it's a coincidence,.... wanna buy a bridge?
I went to court on Friday, heart pounding, completely ready. His drug court appointed attorney, let's call her dragon lady, represented him. I had been told that she was his criminal lawyer, and NOT his lawyer in this case. However, when the ex wouldn't pay child support for a year because he was in drug court and it was a 'hardship' to pay the drug court fees; I wrote letters to my Senator and State Reps, the P.A., etc., and threatened telling the newspapers that they were breaking Federal law by putting drug court payments ahead of child support, she was THAT attorney....and apparently a lot of *stuff* came down because of my letter campaign. ANYWAY, she told the judge that she was his attorney when I asked for clarification as to who she was and if she was his representative. Said that because I asked to go to court on the same day as his contempt hearing (to make it easier on the ex, who would already be there, there's the irony) she was his attorney. Apparently, if I had subpeoned him to go to court on any other day, she wouldn't be there. Oooh, bridge for sale again. Sooo, she says that I didn't file a 'note of issue' and the case could not be heard today. This is apparently something filed in criminal cases, NOT family law, the court facilitator never mentioned a note of issue. So the judge tells me that we can not hear it today, but that I have 14 days to re-file the 'note of issue'. But then dragon lady tells the judge that I have made some 'serious allegations' in my declaration, and she is demanding that I tell her information. (I had stated that the ex's free attorney had threatened me with contempt charges - true statement, I have the letter). Dragon lady wants to know WHO in her office (she is the head of that department - maybe I should rename her Head Dragon Lady, HDL for short, isn't that the bad cholesterol?) The only good thing is that the judge told her that she couldn't have it both ways, either we opened up the case and heard it in court, or she didn't get to know who threatened me with contempt.

So, now we are coughing up the extra money that we don't have to pay for a lawyer, adding to the $40,000 the ex has already cost me in the last 4 years. I am thinking of adding on to the judgment all of the cost of the toys he hocked. Nintendo, + games, bb gun, etc... Of course, we will ask for attorneys fees to be tacked on, and the ex will flatten our tires. Again.
We are meeting with the lawyer today. I will keep you all posted as to the outcome....
We are also considering a security camera. Cause I have so much money after all of this.

Aargh - How long does he get to flaunt the law? It's so frustrating. The ex gets to do his drugs, live with mommy, and I get to pay for all of his old bills. I cannot WAIT to move out of this house to somewhere where he doesn't know where we live.


Thanks for the rant. One more question, how come there is so much injustice in the justice system? Is the term 'justice system' some kind of weird oxymoron? ok, that was two questions.
thanks, honners.

Honners
06-27-2007, 09:07 AM
I got an attorney. :D ! Told me that the case is 'winnable'. Especially because of the work I already did. (yay!) We are going back in and asking for everything I had already asked for, except now we are adding his attorney fees to the mess. I did the simple math, the dumb ex has cost me roughly 40K in four years, but if you really dig down, all the extra fees probably pushes it closer to 50K. Things like I had to pay more for car insurance for a few years due to the lack of insurance - he never paid that bill either - and the lousy credit scores. Or the extra deposits on elect. and phone when I first moved out - because he owed both companies so much. Or the gas money running around town paying my bills because I couldn't open up a checking account. It is amazing how much one drug addicted alcoholic "a$$" can cost you.
Honners

Rodulu
07-20-2007, 03:57 PM
Honners,

I just got through reading this thread, and WOW, all I can say is "you go girl"! Have you ever considered being an advocate for other women trying to collect and get judgments? You have such an amazing energy and drive to get things done. I hope this turns out good for you and that your ex gets everything he so richly deserves!

Honners
07-26-2007, 11:20 AM
Just got back in town from a two week vaca - regarding the advocate, I had an angency request that from me, but at the time was a single mom with two teenagers (argh!) and now am still trying to get my (real estate) business up and running, and still have to fight the ex everytime I turn around, so time is definately of the essence. (still have those teens!) - however, it has, on occasion, tugged at my heartstrings, so maybe something I will do that when this is all over. I hate the injustice of it all, especially because these families have been torn apart to begin with, and are already in a great deal of pain. It seems the time you most need to sit back and heal, is the time that you will not be allowed to do so.....Anyways, onward christian soldiers!

Zephyr
07-26-2007, 01:03 PM
honnors- how about a motion activated camera for your vehicles until this is over.....picture or video might get a conviction and he'd have to replace your tires, probably pay a fine as well and hopefully not do that crap anymore


here's one http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/review-display/2821.html

turbowray
07-28-2007, 08:10 PM
honnors- how about a motion activated camera for your vehicles until this is over.....picture or video might get a conviction and he'd have to replace your tires, probably pay a fine as well and hopefully not do that crap anymore


here's one http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/review-display/2821.html

I am not sure if you have obtained a restraining order, but if you catch him slashing your tires, you may be able to get one. It never looks good, if you have a restraining order against you, I hope you can get one!! I am praying for you my friend!

Honners
07-29-2007, 10:12 AM
Hi - I've been swamped for a couple of days -
one - thanks for the tip on the camera, and which one NOT to buy, we are looking in to that now. Lately, he has taken to slashing my husband's tires, I am not sure if he thinks that his car is mine or what. My son is now driving, his car is parked in the driveway also, so far he has left that car alone. (thank God.)
two - as to the restraining order, we already have the generic one from the divorce, but part of the current case has the attorney trying to get a one that is very strongly worded that should protect us more.

I can't wait for my court date! Thanks for the prayer, I will keep you'all posted.

turbowray
07-29-2007, 03:57 PM
Hi - I've been swamped for a couple of days -
one - thanks for the tip on the camera, and which one NOT to buy, we are looking in to that now. Lately, he has taken to slashing my husband's tires, I am not sure if he thinks that his car is mine or what. My son is now driving, his car is parked in the driveway also, so far he has left that car alone. (thank God.)
two - as to the restraining order, we already have the generic one from the divorce, but part of the current case has the attorney trying to get a one that is very strongly worded that should protect us more.

I can't wait for my court date! Thanks for the prayer, I will keep you'all posted.

Yup, a strongly worded one would really help in court now!

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