We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see
anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet,
probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular
person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your
marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that.

If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your
husband/wife, what would it be?

"Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

Lust.

"urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:q_ZZc.86$9b3.81@trndny01... "Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? Lust.
His lust for me! LOL




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Jacques Michel <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote:
We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

Like others here, lust played a huge role. :-) But if I try to put my
finger on what put him into potential husband category, I think it would
be his ability to put himself in another's shoes and understand their
reality. For example, he is a white guy from an educated, upper class
background, but he chose to work with Indians. This set him apart from
the other law students we knew who wanted to make a big name for
themselves or make a lot of money.

"Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

His brain. We met through a personal ad and had some of the best
conversations before ever meeting in person. Our early conversations
established how much we had in common, and that we had very similar values
in all the areas I thought mattered. Out of anyone in the world I've ever
met, he is who I admire the most.

"Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

Gee, that was nearly 40 years ago -- how can I possibly be expected to
remember? As best I can reconstruct it, it probably was simply that she was
interested in me -- willing to date me -- and that other than some girl
friends in high school who were more like sisters she was the first girl I
felt comfortable with, that I didn't feel I had to prove myself for. Not
very auspicious a beginning.

Ted

jak1mik@yahoo.com (Jacques Michel) writes:
We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

I don't think I could name one thing. Something that is singular
about her is her directness. And that played a big rôle.

But so did her beauty, intelligence and grace.

Emma Anne wrote: Jacques Michel <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote: We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? Like others here, lust played a huge role. :-) But if I try to put my finger on what put him into potential husband category, I think it would be his ability to put himself in another's shoes and understand their reality. For example, he is a white guy from an educated, upper class background, but he chose to work with Indians.
This set him apart from the other law students we knew who wanted to make a big name for themselves or make a lot of money.

LOL. I *bet* it did! But - that is an encouraging note to hear.
I'd almost given up on believing in such a thing. At least you found an
exception.

Bill in Co. <surly9curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Emma Anne wrote: Jacques Michel <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote: We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? Like others here, lust played a huge role. :-) But if I try to put my finger on what put him into potential husband category, I think it would be his ability to put himself in another's shoes and understand their reality. For example, he is a white guy from an educated, upper class background, but he chose to work with Indians. This set him apart from the other law students we knew who wanted to make a big name for themselves or make a lot of money. LOL. I *bet* it did! But - that is an encouraging note to hear. I'd almost given up on believing in such a thing. At least you found an exception.

Yeah, he's a keeper. :-)

Michael <erosewater@ziplip.com> wrote:
It was a very interesting experience, because, for the first little while, after every step further into the relationship, I found myself standing outside her apartment door thinking "Now I'm really in, and I won't be able to get out without damage." Sometime shortly after that, I had an epiphany, while driving in the opposite direction from her. Since then, I've wanted to be wheverever she is.

Excellent description of the vulnerability of falling in love.

"Seeker" <tedds212removethis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2pro8gFoht9kU1@uni-berlin.de... "Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? Gee, that was nearly 40 years ago -- how can I possibly be expected to remember? As best I can reconstruct it, it probably was simply that she
was interested in me -- willing to date me -- and that other than some girl friends in high school who were more like sisters she was the first girl I felt comfortable with, that I didn't feel I had to prove myself for. Not very auspicious a beginning. Ted

I can remember everything about the first time I met Estelle and that was
nearly 40 years ago. I can even remember how hard my heart was beating
the first time we lay down together.

Maybe I just have a better memory than you do?

"urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Pw4_c.499$wF4.341@trndny09... I can remember everything about the first time I met Estelle and that was nearly 40 years ago. I can even remember how hard my heart was beating the first time we lay down together. Maybe I just have a better memory than you do?

Could be. Or it could be for whatever reason you revisit those memories now
and then and I don't. Are there other things from 40 years ago you remember
equally well? (At least I'm nonselective -- I don't remember anything well
from that long ago!)

Ted

"Seeker" <tedds212removethis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ps2tuFogn2fU1@uni-berlin.de... "urf" <urf@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Pw4_c.499$wF4.341@trndny09... I can remember everything about the first time I met Estelle and that
was nearly 40 years ago. I can even remember how hard my heart was beating the first time we lay down together. Maybe I just have a better memory than you do? Could be. Or it could be for whatever reason you revisit those memories
now and then and I don't. Are there other things from 40 years ago you
remember equally well? (At least I'm nonselective -- I don't remember anything
well from that long ago!) Ted
Well I do have some pictures of those days. They help my memory some.

I do remember my 1966 Oldsmobile Tornado. What a car. I drove from Camp
A.P. Hill, Virginia some 300 miles just to spend one night with Estelle. I
left to
go back to the Army the next day. I was one tired soldier.

in article 1gjjfw5.doiqk574x2u3N%mbjq@earthlink.net, Emma Anne at
mbjq@earthlink.net wrote on 9/3/04 1:00 PM:
Michael <erosewater@ziplip.com> wrote: It was a very interesting experience, because, for the first little while, after every step further into the relationship, I found myself standing outside her apartment door thinking "Now I'm really in, and I won't be able to get out without damage." Sometime shortly after that, I had an epiphany, while driving in the opposite direction from her. Since then, I've wanted to be wheverever she is. Excellent description of the vulnerability of falling in love.

Thank you.

M. (I always feel like I should answer in situations like this, but don't
always get round to it)

Jacques Michel wrote:
We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

He looked cool.
I liked the way he dressed (corduroy levis, hiking boots, flannel shirt).
He had a real air of self-confidence - he really knew how to "work a
room".No one that meets him will ever forget him!
We liked the same kind of music (punk, new wave, progressive,jam).
He asked me out the very first day we met.
He always smelled great.
He had a cool truck (when the epitome of "cool" here at that time was a
Chevy Nova or Camaro).
He loves animals and kids.

Sorry, that's more than one thing!

On 3 Sep 2004 05:29:05 -0700, jak1mik@yahoo.com (Jacques Michel)
wrote:
If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to yourhusband/wife, what would it be?

It's hard to pinpoint. We talked for close to a month before we met,
and we clicked on an intellectual level and shared a similar sense of
humour and values. I found out later that we had talked even longer
as he had gone by a different name earlier in our talkings (chat
line), and there was something about me that he kept getting drawn to.
He feared I would find out and be pissed off. I honestly was quite
flattered when I found out.

I went through much of what Michael described. The uncertainty, the
fear of hurt, and even the epiphany.

I guess the one thing is that he wanted me for who I was. That's
pretty powerful.

Tara

"Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

His decency.

Jennifer

"Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

It started with an argument.

We were students and ended up in a lab class with a mutual friend who
introduced us. We were talking about something quite unrelated to the class
and were on opposite sides of the discussion. I thought him intelligent,
funny and interesting and that's always been so.

I was going out with someone else at the time but I would see a fair amount
of my husband-to-be because we shared the same friends and hung out
together. I'm attracted to quiet, intelligent men who have a solid core of
honesty and kindness. My relationship ended and he showed his interest soon
afterwards. I already liked him as a friend.

He was tall, broadshouldered and slender with longish blond hair, green eyes
and a ginger beard. His long legs and lovely masculine bum made me weak at
the knees with lust. I thought he was the most gorgeous man in the world and
I still do. We couldn't get enough of each other and have been inseparable
ever since. There was very little discussion about whether we were suited,
we just assumed we were - it was instinctive.

Of course, I wouldn't recommend that approach to anyone now! I do think we
did do a lot of subconscious checking, though. Both sets of parents had
long, successful marriages and so we each had good parental yardsticks to
measure ourselves against. We were lucky.

Tai

"Jennifer in Maryland" <JenPam2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CYidnerkou_PlqTcRVn-jg@comcast.com... "Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? His decency.

That was the first thing I ever mentioned about my husband in this
newsgroup - his decency.

Tai

"Tai" <tainuiti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2pshanFosvdbU1@uni-berlin.de... "Jennifer in Maryland" <JenPam2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:CYidnerkou_PlqTcRVn-jg@comcast.com... "Jacques Michel" <jak1mik@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.c om... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be? His decency. That was the first thing I ever mentioned about my husband in this newsgroup - his decency.

DH is the quintessential "nice guy." He might make fun of himself for that,
but it's true. He is rock-solid Good with a capital G.

Jennifer

"Jennifer in Maryland" <JenPam2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:HsCdne-ysvqEi6TcRVn-pw@comcast.com... "Tai" <tainuiti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
That was the first thing I ever mentioned about my husband in this newsgroup - his decency. DH is the quintessential "nice guy." He might make fun of himself for
that, but it's true. He is rock-solid Good with a capital G.

Let's hear it for all the "Nice Guys"...

Yaaaaaaaaaay!! You rock!

Tai

"Tai" <tainuiti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2psjsuFojhu6U1@uni-berlin.de... "Jennifer in Maryland" <JenPam2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HsCdne-ysvqEi6TcRVn-pw@comcast.com... "Tai" <tainuiti@yahoo.com> wrote in message That was the first thing I ever mentioned about my husband in this newsgroup - his decency. DH is the quintessential "nice guy." He might make fun of himself for that, but it's true. He is rock-solid Good with a capital G. Let's hear it for all the "Nice Guys"... Yaaaaaaaaaay!! You rock!

WOOHOO!!! :-D

Jennifer

Jacques Michel wrote: If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

I was drawn to my SO as friends first and foremost. We spent so much
time talking about our lives past and present, our kids, our likes and
dislikes. The first weekend at the festival, we just talked and
talked.. and that night under the stars, I realized I was hoping he
would kiss me as we said goodnight. (He didn't).

The next day at the festival, we spent the afternoon sitting on a hill,
listening to the music, but really focused on each other. I was keenly
aware of his thigh, stretched out before me, of his voice and the quirk
of his lip when he spoke. That evening as we said our goodbyes, he gave
me this kiss.... it was just the sweetest kiss, but I saw in his eyes
something more.

I grinned all the way home from the festival :) He, on the other hand
wasn't so sure I was interested. We cleared that little matter up
fairly quickly and have been together ever since. His lips are simply
amazing and a kiss from him makes me weak in the knees. I hope that
never changes.

Cal~

You mentioned in a past post about your husband having to pay childsupport.http://tinyurl.com/463g7He dislikes the child he fathered? How often does he see his child?

He has two actually. Although at 20 and 17 they could hardly be
called children any longer.

In both cases, he did not want them but was "oopsed" into it by a wife
who serrupticiously (sp?) removed her IUD so that she could get
pregnant with out his knowledge or consent.

The last time he saw them (against the mother's wishes, I might ad),
was in 1996. He does, however, pay child support religiously.

His approach to his own children are such that they are ok as long as
they have their lives and he has his. From the conversations we have
had about the subject, he is not particularly interested in being part
of their lives and certainly NOT interested in having to do with any
grandchildren that they might choose to produce.

Oh, by the way. The children were the reason that they got divorced.

Em


The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents,
and the second half by our children.
--- Clarence Darrow
(make that YOUR children).

Jacques Michel wrote:
We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

I wonder whether that has much to do with staying married. I was old enough
(27) but inexperienced in relationships, I was really in love for the first
time, and counted on a couple of broken romances along the way, but I
finished up marrying her. A woman we met through a social group described
us as the ideal lovers. I think that I was at a stage in my life when I
wanted to marry, Jenny seemed to be within my idea of what my wife should
be like, and that was good enough. As our relationship deepened, I felt as
though she was an emotional home that I had been missing. She had recently
been seriously in love, and her boy-friend had left her for an old flame.
She has told me several times that I could have had other girlfriends if I
had wanted to. In countries where marriages are arranged, the couple still
feel committed to make their marriage work, and there are many happy
marriages.

And now where are we? Both dodging real intimacy. The feeling of the
emotional home, the complete acceptance, has gone. Being "ideal lovers" in
our courting days didn't guarantee marital bliss. But we are both more
interested in making our marriage work than wanting to give up and start
over. It is said that an bad marriage is better than no marriage. I don't
think that we have a bad marriage, just it isn't a very good one. My wife
is happy to continue along as we are, but that is no longer enough for me.
Jenny thought that our personalities and our expectations of each other
(and our expectations from life itself) would be unchanging.
Unfortunately, people like that are no longer totally alive.

Doug.
--
Commonwealth Youth Games, Bendigo, Australia- http://www.bendigo2004.com
Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do.
- Dale Carnegie.

Tai wrote: Nope, sorry. The green eyes and height are encouraging but the balding part is mandatory! Tai

Oh!.. heheh... GMTA :)
Cal~

Tai wrote: When I met my husband he has long hair and a beard. Now he's clean-shaven and I run the electric razor over his head once a week or so in the closest clip possible. I think it suits him! Tai

SO had that "halo" of hair as well as a full beard & mustache. He now
shaves his head daily with a razor and has what's called a Van Dyke. I
think he uses a razor in a pinch, but it doesn't come close to what a
freshly shaved head is like.. :)
Cal~

jak1mik@yahoo.com (Jacques Michel) wrote in message news:<5e2ca8a5.0409030429.6b5abaaa@posting.google.com>... We often discuss here what to do to stay married, but I rarely see anyone post about why they got married in the first place. Yet, probably, how the marriage started, why you chose that particular person amongst so many possible choices is at the source of your marriage, but maybe we have forgotten that. If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

DF always tells people it was his resourcefulness that attracted me to
him. That's true, but it isn't the only thing and I'm hard-pressed to
name just one thing. It was the whole package deal... hmmmm....

He's a fantastic kisser and we had great chemistry from the start.
He's incredibly smart, has a fabulous sense of humor, is a great
conversationalist and quite charming. He's got lovely eyes and a
beautiful smile. He has fabulous manners (opens car doors, gives me
the best seat in the restaurant, waits until I order my food first,
doesn't gobble down his food before I've had a chance to sit down,
says please and thank you... ).

Doesn't like sports. Appreciates culture such as theater and the arts.
Loves our city (that was a big one for me - finding someone who's idea
of heaven was living in or near the city, not moving out to the 'burbs
or farther). He's cuddly, affectionate, and attentive. He's open
minded, curious, always learning something. And kind, loyal, and
helpful (yes Good with a capital G).

But probably one of the biggest factors for me is that he is fun,
adventurous, and playful. When I married the first time, I had
different requirements - I was probably looking for someone reliable,
dependable, and who would be a good provider, etc, as I figured I was
settling down to be a responsible adult and start a family. It was all
very serious business! Unfortunately, that's what I got, but there was
no fun at all in that relationship.

After being divorced for several years and learning that I could do
all that for myself, I guess my requirements in a mate completely
changed. What I was looking for was someone who could be my playmate
in life. Someone to have fun with, simple as that.

Of course, DF is more than just a playmate. He's also very much a
helpmate. One of the pleasant surprises is that he has become an
integral member of our parenting team and is happily involved in
helping me raise my girls. That wasn't a primary requirement I was
looking for - but it is really nice to have it with all the rest.

jen

I respond to myself, because there is no way I could send a thank you
to every poster: 42 posts in less than 24 hours!

Anyway, it was food for thought with the mildly surprising effect that
a majority of women answered that they were attracted to physical
characteristics. I did not expect so many. But maybe this is just
because only few men answered, I don't know.

Jacques Michel wrote:
If you could name the one thing that attracted you at first to your husband/wife, what would it be?

It's so hard to know. I don't remember meeting him. The closest thing
to an awareness that I liked him was 'Jay', my boyfriend at the time,
saying, "I'm meeting up with 'Bob' tonight, would you like to come?"
And I said, "Which Bob?" because he had two friends named Bob and I
enjoyed the company of one of them.

We were friends for a few years while I seriously dated Jay. Jay asked
me to marry him (and of course I said "yes") and immediately afterwards
I had a week of introverted thinking time where I realized I didn't WANT
to marry Jay and have that sort of husband and that sort of life. So I
broke it off with Jay and in a turn-around that still astounds me,
started dating 'Bob' within the week. (Bob didn't know that for a few
more weeks - he thought we were just playing tennis together.)

I think the short answer is that 'Bob' was the sort of man I wanted to
spend my life with. I'm still grateful that I spent that week at the
age of 20 really THINKING about what sort of man I wanted to marry.

Dally, married 15+ years

Jacques Michel wrote: I respond to myself, because there is no way I could send a thank you to every poster: 42 posts in less than 24 hours! Anyway, it was food for thought with the mildly surprising effect that a majority of women answered that they were attracted to physical characteristics. I did not expect so many. But maybe this is just because only few men answered, I don't know.

But you asked how it *started*, not how it *grew*. For a lot of
people (most?), they started with their spouse by seeing them
across the room or bar or by having a friend introduce them and
the only thing they can possibly notice about the person is their
appearance.

Tracey

Jacques Michel wrote: I respond to myself, because there is no way I could send a thank you to every poster: 42 posts in less than 24 hours! Anyway, it was food for thought with the mildly surprising effect that a majority of women answered that they were attracted to physical characteristics. I did not expect so many. But maybe this is just because only few men answered, I don't know.

Perhaps the "intelligence" that some mentioned
is a big factor. I feel that people are attracted to
what they perceive as being an intelligent person
and that it's often because an intelligent person is
more likely to keep one's interest.

Oddly, to me, by believing in another person's
intelligence, we 'subtley' give them more confidence
in themselves and they are more likely to keep
appearing intelligent to us.

Conversely, when we allow a partner to continually drag
us down, we can end up "losing" our intelligence temporarily
to them. Haven't we all had those "I should've said" moments?

- Michaela

Auntie Em wrote:
You mentioned in a past post about your husband having to pay childsupport.http://tinyurl.com/463g7He dislikes the child he fathered? How often does he see his child? He has two actually. Although at 20 and 17 they could hardly be called children any longer. In both cases, he did not want them but was "oopsed" into it by a wife who serrupticiously (sp?) removed her IUD so that she could get pregnant with out his knowledge or consent. The last time he saw them (against the mother's wishes, I might ad), was in 1996. He does, however, pay child support religiously. His approach to his own children are such that they are ok as long as they have their lives and he has his. From the conversations we have had about the subject, he is not particularly interested in being part of their lives and certainly NOT interested in having to do with any grandchildren that they might choose to produce. Oh, by the way. The children were the reason that they got divorced. Em

That sucks, and that's sad.

Michael <erosewater@ziplip.com> wrote:
in article 1gjjfw5.doiqk574x2u3N%mbjq@earthlink.net, Emma Anne at mbjq@earthlink.net wrote on 9/3/04 1:00 PM: Michael <erosewater@ziplip.com> wrote: It was a very interesting experience, because, for the first little while, after every step further into the relationship, I found myself standing outside her apartment door thinking "Now I'm really in, and I won't be able to get out without damage." Sometime shortly after that, I had an epiphany, while driving in the opposite direction from her. Since then, I've wanted to be wheverever she is. Excellent description of the vulnerability of falling in love. Thank you. M. (I always feel like I should answer in situations like this, but don't always get round to it)

Please don't bother for me, at any rate! I think newbies really want to
be answered.

can really talk to him and his deep brown eyes melt me and weaken my knees

Caz wrote in news:417EEFC0.5030801@no.net:
can really talk to him and his deep brown eyes melt me and weaken my knees

Hey Caz.. since you're replying to old threads, it would be particularly
helpful for you to include portions of the post you are replying to. It is
standard to do so normally, but especially important when we're dealing
with several weeks to months old posts.

Thanks!
--
Cal~

Change me to myself for email :-)