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Okay, I'm 15 and my boyfriend is 15. We want to move in together, his parents are for it, and mine said they would sign the forms if I really wanted to leave, and I do. I hate both my parents, for reasosn I will not say, and I want to leave and be with Trix. I need to know what legal messures I have to take to get the forms and such, I've tryed to find out the info but am having no such luck, my bf is also looking, please help us! I don't want my baby to grow up away from his dad.
cyjeff
10-20-2006, 06:40 AM
Are you asking if you can get married or just become emancipated?
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 06:45 AM
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Okay, I'm 15 and my boyfriend is 15. We want to move in together, his parents are for it, and mine said they would sign the forms if I really wanted to leave, and I do. I hate both my parents, for reasosn I will not say, and I want to leave and be with Trix. I need to know what legal messures I have to take to get the forms and such, I've tryed to find out the info but am having no such luck, my bf is also looking, please help us! I don't want my baby to grow up away from his dad.
Okay, this is NOT going to happen. Let me guess...you hate your parents because they are giving you hell because you are 15 years old and pregnant. They are telling you that you cannot see your boyfriend anymore, becuase...gee, you two cannot be trusted to be alone together. Gosh, I wonder where they get these crazy ideas???
If your parents allow you to move out and then live with your 15 YEAR OLD BOYFRIEND, they (and all involved) better be ready for a visit from CPS. You will need to be ready to go to foster care (as will your boyfriend). The age of consent in NC is 16...neither of you meet it. Neither one of you is old enough to hold down a LEGITIMATE job that will pay you enough to support yourselves (much less medical expenses and the costs of a baby), and BOTH of you are legally required to attend school regularly. There are no forms because it is NOT legal for you to move out.
Period.
cyjeff
10-20-2006, 07:01 AM
Let me frame this up for you... and I am going to talk to you like the adults you think yourselves to be.
You cannot become emancipated. Everything considered in an emancipation hearing is geared around PREVENTING these children from going on public assistance. That means...
You have to have a job capable of supporting yourself and your baby.
You have to show an additional commitment to finish your schooling.
You have to show that you already have a place to live independantly.
You have to show you can make mature decisions about your life choices.
You have to show that you are mature enough to keep a clean criminal record.
You have none of these. You won't be able to find a job that can allow you to live independantly, you have made some pretty suspect life choices, and the simple fact you conceived a child at 14 shows, if not criminal behavior, a seriously flawed outlook on life.
You cannot get married at 15 in North Carolina without a court order. Don't hold your breath on that one. See above.
Here is what is going to happen if you ignore the legalities of the situation and just move out. Not only will you find yourself and your boyfriend in CPS, but you may find your baby there too. Because you can not care properly for a child before you can even drive. You just can't.
If I seem harsh, it is because everything about your post seems to lean toward getting state assistance for everything from housing to food to medical assistance. State assistance isn't free... I pay for it. And I would rather we keep the numbers of children on the public payroll down, not up.
Trix_and_Cake
10-20-2006, 10:27 AM
First off I DO NOT hate my parents because I'm 15 and all that stuff. I hate them because my step-dad sexually abused me and my mum f**king watched him do it! We don't want to get married, and both of us turn 16 in about a month. I know the age of conncent in NC is 16, and I DO NOT care. I went to the courthouse in my town, I can legally leave if my mum signs the papers, which thier are. I just don't know where to get the papers, the courthouse doesn't carry them because it's such a small town here.
And another thing: I'M NOT PREGANT! I had the baby 3 months ago. I also have enough money to support myself and this chld alone. I work for my step-brothers company and make good money. I get nearly $400.00 a week, and all I do it filie paperwork, so thank you very much. (this is the part I edited)
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 10:35 AM
First off I DO NOT hate my parents because I'm 15 and all that stuff. I hate them because my step-dad sexually abused me and my mum f**king watched him do it! We don't want to get married, and both of us turn 16 in about a month. I know the age of conncent in NC is 16, and I DO NOT care. I went to the courthouse in my town, I can legally leave if my mum signs the papers, which thier are. I just don't know where to get the papers, the courthouse doesn't carry them because it's such a small town here.
There are no papers that your mother can sign to "emancipate" you at the age of 15.
If you move out at the age of 15, with or without her permission, (not to mention your father's, if he is still living and has any parental rights) CPS will be paying a visit, first to find out why your mother was so negligent to have a 15 year old daughter wind up pregnant, and second, to find out why you are no longer under her care, control and support as you are legally entitled to be and she is legally obligated to provide. How are you going to pay for health care? Through the county? What do you think will be the first thing they will do? Yep, call CPS. How do you expect to support yourself, your baby and attend school? Yes, you will be required to remain in school. If you don't, again, your mother will be held responsible. How do you expect to eat? You cannot move out on your own and then get financial support from the state. That's another sure fire way to get CPS involved.
If there is abuse in the home, then YOU need to contact CPS to report it. If CPS deems it necessary to remove you from the home, you will go to foster care. Yelling and cussing at us will make no difference in what you are legally able to do.
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 10:44 AM
Great, now I get to add a post based on your addition.
Okay, you have a job (which is good). Have you considered the fact that no landlord is going to rent an apartment to you based on your age. While the landlord will be legally bound by a contract, YOU cannot. Not a good idea to take that much risk. Emancipation is NOT an option for anyone under the age of 16 in NC.
Your pay for the year, without deducting taxes, is appx. $21,000. Have you sat down and figured out a budget? How much does it cost to clothe, feed, and care for your child? What about pediatricians visits? Now, keep in mind that I have 4 children AND I used to live in NC (so I have a pretty good idea of the cost of living and raising children in NC).
How are you going to get that baby to the doctor if you cannot drive? How are you going to get to the store to buy diapers? Do you see what I am getting at? You DO need to contact CPS and report that you are being abused. But don't expect the authorities to allow you to move out on your own. If you do, you are risking not only YOU going to foster care, but losing your baby as well.
cyjeff
10-20-2006, 10:46 AM
And, regardless of the papers you, your mother, your father or anyone else in your life sign, a judge STILL has to approve your emancipation.
To give you an idea of the odds of that happening, only 12 kids in all of 2005 got emancipated in Georgia. And there are a lot of pregnant teens in Georgia.
A judge will look at your situation and DENY you emancipation. Which means you are not legally allowed to shack up with your tween boyfriend.
Have a nice day.
demartian
10-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Was your abuse reported? If it wasn't, planning to use it as a reason for leaving your parents now will look bad.
Your parents are legally responsible for you until you are 18 years old. Unless you have those rights transferred to someone else "adoption" (which defenitely requires an attorney as there are no forms), this just simply can't be done for you.
And if your bf's parents adopt you, then you will be his sister.
Trix_and_Cake
10-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Okay, let my clear up some thing. I'm trying to get out NOW, I'm waiting till I'm 16. I have looked into all the thing I need too. For all of those who think CPS is something, forget it. They have come and gone!
I don't really care anymore, I'm happy with Trix, I have my baby, and I'm getting the hell out of here at 16.
Don't think for a moment that I have not thought of every posible thing that could happen, I've been looking into this thing from the moment I found out I was gonna be a mum. I love my son, I would do anything for him. IF it mean staying with my parents till I'm 16, (only about 1 1/2 months) than so be it. I wasn't looking to get out now. I have the means to support my child, I have made living arangments and Trix is a HUGE part in our sons life.
cyjeff
10-20-2006, 12:43 PM
You listen, but you don't hear.
You are making decisions that you cannot legally make. You do not get to choose to live with "Trix". CPS can STILL come and get you from your little love nest and take you away.
Hear me again. You guys can go set up your fort, and then the CPS guys can walk in without a password or anything and take you to foster care. Who can call CPS on you? ANYONE. Repeat ANYONE. Neighbors, friends you have a falling out with, a stranger you talk to at the Piggly Wiggly, ANYONE.
The only thing this will do is put YOUR, much less the father's, contact with your son in jeopardy. You really want to be a good "mum", then act like it.
Trix_and_Cake
10-20-2006, 12:47 PM
Let Me Make This Very Clear:
I Do Not Give A Rats A** What You Think. I Know My Leagal Standing, I Wnet To The Court House. I Was 100% Legally Able To Make The Living Arangments I Have. I Asked A Gudge, And A Lawyer. The Papers For My Leaving My Parents Are Starting To Be Arranged. I Am Leaving When I'm 16 And I Don't Need Nor Want Your Sad Excuse Of A Comment.
Trix_and_Cake
10-20-2006, 12:49 PM
And I Am A Good Mum. I Have Taken Care Of My Child With No Help From Anyone But His Father. Cps Has Been To My House And Has Reviewed My Case, They Don't Care. They Didn't Say Anything, Even When I Told Them My Plans, They Are In A Way Helping My. They Said I Could Leave My Parents For What They Did To Me. So F**k Off.
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 12:53 PM
And having dealt with Rowan county CPS and Mecklenburg county CPS, I know that is a lie. Listen...do whatever you want. We have told yo the truth. Jeff's "opinion" is actually the correct legal information.
I'm still not really sure why if you talked to a "gudge" and a lawyer and CPS AND they ALL told you that you can legally leave (which is a lie), you came on here to get your information.
Oh well, there is nothing we can do or say, so good luck. I am more concerned about your baby at this point, than I am you.
cyjeff
10-20-2006, 12:57 PM
Nice mouth. I see why your prepubesent boyfriend was so taken with you.
Still, doesn't change a thing. You are too young to live on your own. You have this grand fantasy about what playing house is going to be like, and you are completely wrong.
You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than getting a college degree if you move out. Which means you better get used to the 21K a year you are making... because it is all you will EVER make.
Regardless of whatever you think you heard from the local child protective services folks, no judge ever, anywhere is going to let you move in with your 15 year old playmate. The moment this goes to court, and it will sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, you will be sent to foster care, your boyfriend will be sent to foster care, your CHILD will be sent to foster care, and your parents, his parents and anyone else that helped you with this is going to be facing charges.
You don't seem to understand that you don't get to make these decisions because you want to. You aren't allowed to become emancipated, and that is the only, repeat only, way you could move out.
Emancipation, AGAIN, requires a judge's sign off on the papers. You have a better chance of sitting next to Elvis at church on Sunday than getting a judge to let you two shack up to create MORE illegitimate children because you ALSO don't seem to understand how birth control works.
But you know what... try it. Get a lawyer and try to find a judge that thinks your fantastic idea is a smart play. Good luck with that.
demartian
10-20-2006, 01:27 PM
I just googled legal emancipation for the "why not" of it. The first few links are very misleading and may shed some light on where all these far off requests come from...
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 02:45 PM
demartian...here is a link with the legal statute for emancipation in NC.
It's pretty clear and direct. The issue is that if she is a good candidate for emancipation, great...more power to her. The fact is that she is not. Not only does she have to provide for herself, but she has to provide for her baby, too. Everybody knows how expensive and draining that can be if you are prepared for it. A 15 (almost 16) year old girl going to school full time and having to hold down a full time job is not a good candidate. I just don't understand how she expects me to believe this is true if I KNOW that the people she said told her these things did not. There is no way an atty, a "gudge", or a CPS caseworker would tell her that she is free to leave home when it is illegal at her age. She better be able to pull a better argument together and conduct herself in a more dignified manner if she wants to have any shot at getting this.
xena
10-20-2006, 04:53 PM
Let Me Make This Very Clear:
I Do Not Give A Rats A** What You Think. I Know My Leagal Standing, I Wnet To The Court House. I Was 100% Legally Able To Make The Living Arangments I Have. I Asked A Gudge, And A Lawyer. The Papers For My Leaving My Parents Are Starting To Be Arranged. I Am Leaving When I'm 16 And I Don't Need Nor Want Your Sad Excuse Of A Comment.
Then why did you post here to begin with?????
Since you are SOOO smart and KNOW all about the laws, stop arguing with the actual LEGAL ADVICE you've been given and just do what you want. Then come back here and let us know how YOUR version of the laws has worked for you.
mommyof4
10-20-2006, 05:00 PM
Even if everybody here agreed with you (which we don't, in case there was some confusion) there is no way a judge would say, "oh, well, a bunch of anonymous posters on the internet think this is a grand idea, therefore, I am granting you legal emancipation. I think you are going to be fabulous."
Little girl, the posters on this forum, while we do give support (or not) with our advice, are here to give general CORRECT legal information. We are not here to be a support group.
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